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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet Jun 15 2015, 10:34am says:

Gonna suck balls.

There are no longer dialog trees, Fallout used to be a roleplaying game, now thats changed.

The Brotherhood of Steel and supermutants are back. Lame. The Brotherhood are a faction of the Westcoast, that Bethesda had to bring them over to the Eastcoast instead of coming up with something of their own was incredibly lazy. Also, FEV that gave rise to the Super Mutants was also a Westcoast thing. And Super mutants are sterile so they cant increase their numbers. But despite that idiot Bethesda brought them over to the Eastcoast aswell. Vault 87 was their lame excuse for the Supermutants to be at the ******* Eastcoast. I hate lazy Bethesdas lame *** story telling. They are ******* all over Fallout lore.

Skills are removed. What are they thinking? Everything gets streamlined for idiot casual players nowadays.

Also, the player characters are voiced?! That's lame. And that makes modding of the dialog a hell of a lot more difficult.

Everything that was good about Fallout 1, Fallout 2 and New Vegas are now destroyed by Beth$soft.

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GenezisO Author
GenezisO Jun 15 2015, 10:46am replied:

you know man, it must be hard if you played old ones and see how it all changed to worse if I raed ya well, but time changes, only war never does, so please dont blame Bethesda for what have they done, they did their best, your comment is so negative I am afraid if you were ever fan of the series or the hater
PS: dont judge game you didn't play yet

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BioDestroyer
BioDestroyer Jun 15 2015, 3:53pm replied:

I haven't played any Fallout game yet, so I don't know exactly how they are, but from what ApornasPlanet said, added to some of the ridiculous prices Bethesda has put on many countries, this seems to be nothing but a cash grab.

Well, it's probably because of that huge hype people created, it seems Bethesda grew impatient to get her hands on that money...

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GenezisO Author
GenezisO Jun 15 2015, 4:53pm replied:

and you are just another guy telling your opinion on something you haven't played yet, no hate bro

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet Jun 15 2015, 5:42pm replied:

And you are also just telling your opinion GenezisO

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BioDestroyer
BioDestroyer Jun 16 2015, 11:03am replied:

Of course I was telling my opinion, what was I supposed to tell, a prediction of the future? Besides, if you read that comment well, you will be able to notice I'm not talking about the game itself, I'm talking about Bethesda's actions.

There are no rules against expressing opinions.

Stop being a blind fanboy and read comments carefully, so you don't miss their actual meaning.

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GenezisO Author
GenezisO Jun 16 2015, 3:11pm replied:

Sorry then, my bad. I should read it more patiently.

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet Jun 22 2015, 4:18am replied:

Alright. So I can't have opinions but you can. Also, I'm not just posting opinions, I'm making arguments based on facts from previous games. My opinions have weight.

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet Jun 15 2015, 5:41pm replied:

I've played Fallout all my life and I can tell you Bethesda ruined the series with their crappy Fallout 3. And now this?

Also, "they did their best"? is that really a valid excuse for making ****** games? "they did their best"? you gotta be kidding me.

I havn't played the game yet, but from the presentation I know alot of the features of the game and I can tell you that they are against everything Fallout ever was.

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GenezisO Author
GenezisO Jun 16 2015, 7:25am replied:

Okay, so if your mother loose the job because company she was working for go bankrupt, you will blame your mother instead of the company? I think no, you would not. And in past 10 years, all game and other companies are becoming worse then they were before because of the economic crisis, so dont blame companies. I told you already, they do their best, believe or not. I dont say that new Fallouts are better then older ones, you must accept reality as it is.

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet Jun 22 2015, 4:37am replied:

Eh what? I fail to understand that analogy. Bethesda and their owner Zenimax are very successful and rich companies. Bethesdas games sell in the millions. So I don't know how you get the crisis in there. In fact, Fallout 3 which soled in millions of copies was realeased in fall 2008 which coincided with said crisis. Also, isn't the crisis in 2008 long overdue?

Bethesda doesn't do their best to create good games for their fans, you're wrong there. Instead they make their best to sell as many copies as possible. And to achive that they target an as broad audience as possible. That's why all their games are crap. Their games are broad mainstream **** made to please as many people as possible.

They don't make Fallout games to please Fallout fans if that's what you thought. And especially not to please the fans of the old games, since they as a group, don't have purchase power enough.

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GenezisO Author
GenezisO Jun 22 2015, 4:41am replied:

Luckely for me, I am not fan of the first 2 games in series. :)

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OminousSpudd
OminousSpudd Jun 15 2015, 8:55pm replied:

The whole reason Bethesda has only ever gone East coast is because they didn't want to **** on the original games' lore. How was Vault 87 a lame excuse? I'm sorry but the Enclave created and experimented with the FEV virus, so it is very plausible that they would unleash the virus on a Vault anywhere from the East Coast to the West. The Master wasn't some overlord of FEV... It was originally an Enclave creation (actually a defence program founded by the US at around the same time as their experimentation with Power Armor during pre-War times). The Master simply fell into a vat in one of the Enclave's many facilities storing the stuff.

In FO3 the spread of the Super Mutants was due to the high population of pure humans from the many DC Vaults, and while the Super Mutants didn't have the leadership of The Master, the Enclave was still experimenting with Vault 87s FEV dispersal, keeping the DC wastes populated with SMs. It wasn't just some lame *** excuse to have Super Mutants in FO3. (Which I would have been happy with anyway, because fighting fricken Super Mutants in first person was amazing...)

The sheer amount of content in Bethesda games particularly in their huge RPGs is why they get such high praise, (three consecutive gotys since Oblivion) so saying they're lazy is really narrow minded and shows that you are preferring to not see the quality of their games due to your bias against them.

Todd said that they have been working on Fallout 4 since 3. That's a lot of work gone into a game in an era where we have pathetic yearly release cash grabs. The games have a massive following of fans from both the originals and Fallout 3, which would crucify Bethesda if they just screwed with the lore in a way you're implying. I have seen franchises do far worse with reboots, being the same in name only, which have still sold very well. Bethesda could easily gone that route with their rebooting of the series, to please original fans.

Now people say they're cash grabbing with the game... Are you for real? The pre-order does not cost anymore than your Call of Doody or *** Creed, yet has literally 100s of hours more in content plus full mod support (would have thought that would be important on a mod site).

If you had been tracking the progress of the game while it was in development you would know that the E3 gameplay blew everyone's expectations out of the water.

/rant

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Sduibek
Sduibek Jun 19 2015, 12:49pm replied:

Bethesda got many things right with Fallout 3, and did a lot of cool stuff -- which many anti-Bethesda/anti-FO3 people don't want to admit -- but they also utterly dropped the ball in many areas. Defending a half-assed effort is questionable.

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet Jun 22 2015, 4:25am replied:

Bethesda was to lazy to invent mutants of their own so they just brought over FEV to the east coast to make their game writing process easier. Also they just brought over BoS and the Enclave. That you must admit is lazy. The east coast is fresh territory in Fallout lore so they were free to create something more imaginative. Instead they just stole from Fallout 1 and 2.

Bethesda games have a lot of content, yes. But all the dungeons in Oblivion are copy-paste look alikes. That's also lazy and boring from a gameplay standpoint. I rather have few well thought out loctions than hundreds of nearly identical dungeons.


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Sduibek
Sduibek Jun 19 2015, 12:47pm replied:

If dialog trees are removed, what is dialog selection going to consist of?

"Fallout: Mass Effect". lol.

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet Jun 22 2015, 4:40am replied:

haha word!

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