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OK, someone explain this....foul play on topsites or jsut a quirk? (Forums : General Banter : OK, someone explain this....foul play on topsites or jsut a quirk?) Locked
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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

Topsites.moddb.com

MEMod's site URL is linking directly back to moddb and registering both hits out (like it should do) and unique hits in (affecting the charts) by looping back.....

Question is, are we allowed to do this?

Only noticed when I was wondering how their hits out counter is rising despite a DOS attack.

- Edited By intelligentsia On Sat 18th, Oct 2003 @ 9:29:58am

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jacksonj04
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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

this is definately against the rules, since there is no actual site there!

/me notifies a l33t-guy

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chis
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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

:D your always on the watch out for topsite whores...not that its a bad thing, just saying ;)

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jacksonj04
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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

Be Alert!
modDB needs lerts!

it's nice to have people keeping an eye out other than on the forums tho.
/me clocks in commendation

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chis
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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

true yes, i try to use the website than just the forum , i might be uploading a mod ima starting on :P

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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

all this topsite stuff is really like....getting to me

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natko1
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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

Topsite always has a problem in one form or another. Let it go.

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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

every damn day im here, i see ANOTHER top sites cheating thread

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PsychoFarmer
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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

with v2, topsites will be revamped

/me places utter trust in intense's 1337 skillz

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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

/me crosses self and looks at the shrine to INtense!

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aea
aea modDB Hacker
Oct 18 2003 Anchor

/me thinks topsites is a bad idea :)

chis
chis Old man.
Oct 18 2003 Anchor

not really, hundreds of people use it :|

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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

I dont does that make me different

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chis
chis Old man.
Oct 18 2003 Anchor

Taking away topsites when hundreds of people use it makes A big difference :|

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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

Roll on moddb v2 then. Nuff said.

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Oct 18 2003 Anchor

V2 wont change the top sites much, its been a slog to get them fairly safe as it is, I dont expect to see any changes - just more patching...

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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

OK. Any chance someone can fix it? There are a *lot* of hits coming from that homepage link (look, they've had 19 hits in under a DDoS attack, no shit.)

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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

PM intense, Ill report this to him when he comes on msn...

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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

Just done it.

Found their fucking team lead even has his homepage link in his Morrowind forum profile linking to the topsites html. Cheeky bastard.

Incidentally this isn't so much for our mod as for the other Middle Earth mod (AME) sat below them in the charts competing fairly...)

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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

lol, just for the record, today they've apparently had 52 unique hits in, despite being under a DDoS attack.

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jacksonj04
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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

who is under DDoS, modDB or them?

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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

MEMod. Yet they're up to 76 hits in now. From a website that's not working.

- Edited By intelligentsia On Sun 19th, Oct 2003 @ 4:12:22pm

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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

Hmmm... ok here's the official explanation. :P

Firstly, telling people to go to a url of Memod.moddb.com is a lot easier than the counter url.

by linking the "in" url to the moddb site, it allows for us to count those visitors that we just hand the link out to.

This isn't against the moddb rules. I checked.

Surprising for someone (especially from our past issues) to be so petty as to post this without even bothering to ask me about it. I would appreciate a little courtesy of "hey is this against the rules, or what's the deal?" or something, instead I get off work and find 4 threads on multiple forums about how it's been confirmed that MEMod is cheating on moddb counters.

EDIT:

And btw, on all the forums our "website" links in our profiles go to the memod moddb counter, and that's for most of our members. Look at my sig.

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- Edited By Daerk On Sun 19th, Oct 2003 @ 8:20:51pm

Oct 19 2003 Anchor

And I just finished reading the thread that seems to have been the main reason for your hyperactive and very pre-emptive "lashing" against MEMod.

When I registered the memod.moddb.com url it was to shorten the url link for a "hit" so when I give our link out to individuals, their visit to the page would be counted. I therefore went through and set some of the url's we'd been linking to use the memod.moddb.com address. My oversight in the fact that setting our moddb.com site url to the same actually counted both an IN and an OUT hit is a simple human mistake. Shoot, for the longest time we weren't getting ANY "in" hits because I didn't know what url to use. Dark0ne even points this out in his description of the morrowind source link in the Morrowind category. I make link mistakes often. So immediately blaming and accusing me of cheating is a bit off, IMHO.

This kind of issue can be fixed easily with a PM to myself, within which I can test it and verify that yes it does count 2 hits, and fix it myself. No need to assume that i'm a bloody cheat and trying to rip off the system.

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Oct 19 2003 Anchor

what is a DDos attack?

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