MAVAV Thread

Look at this! Mavav.org
They are dissing games as being too voilent and sexual...well let me tell you something, none of us would be here if it wasn't for sex, and I honestly dont know why parents keep this from their children. And as the violence goes, they are violent, but they should have no effect on a good strong willed human and people should know right from wrong. Making these things is a freedom of speech, and we are entitled by law to rant rave and do as we please but not do anything violent or to harm anybody else. Video Games are an art. And then after this, they say that it teaches people to hate certain nationalities, such as blacks and musslims.
I can only say, that I only have been descriminated against 1 time, by white guys, I was playing on a CS server and I was 0wning, I get on my mic and say good game guys, and they pick up on my black accent...they then start calling me a nigger and bane me for the reason of being a nigger and being black.

but I think games should stay, they are art, and a way of expressing ideas and being creative.

- Edited By NavySEAL On Tue 31st, Dec 2002 @ 4:18:37pm

im writing a letter of complaint... ill post it when im done, almost at 2 pages, w00t!!

this whole thing is pathetic, read the link that they have that talks about the columbine shootings, and that they were caused by the kid playing doom!!! doom!!!
honestly, people need to turn around, and figure out the fact that mentally unstable people tend to do things like that, not people who play video games...

its pathetic, simply pathetic

they can do it WITHOUT violent video games
people complain that without these the world would be better...
they havent lived in a world without them, so how do they know this?
they could be terribly wrong

i can understand ppl complaining about gta3 or sof, but doom!?!?! thats just petty

well GTA3 does incorperate real grime and the gang mentality

the big thing that ppl get out of gta3 was the whole picking up a whore and then getting ur money back by running her over

i dont think i would have ever figured that out, if the media hadnt blared it all over the place

It is sad, but people have to blame something. I mean the mere fact that millions of people play video games and maybe one or two of these people *actually* kills anyone, means that they are obviously different, disturb, an expection to the norm and nothing would have stopped them doing what they did. It is bloody pathetic, seeking answers and reasons why, when it happened because it did and no futher analysis is possible

its a sad world after all...

It's sad. They are just desperately looking for something to blame so they can unite and think they are making a difference. Computer games are violent, why not pick them. One guy who shot someone used to play DOOM, oh no, DOOM taught him to kill! They only look at the mentally unstable kids, that's where they take all their examples on their site from. Well, guess what? There aren't too many of those mentally unstable people. If they have have social problems or something, it would be a good idea to keep real weapons away from them (d'uhh)

"MAVAV" will be sorry the day they get a forum. Although they probably won't, foreseeing some inevitable hardcore flaming...from guys like me

The wrote: And the newest absurdity, underground videogame cultures which takes gaming to another level, tainted with online "clans", singling out of people, hatred, racism, and sexism.

Since when do clans operate out of hatred for other clans. In 99% of cases, it's good, friendly matches. I can't believe this organisation is fabricating false information. Truly pathetic.

Once wrote: Hardcore gamers never buy computer videogames. Instead, downloading illegally copied videogames or “warez” is the only method acceptable by the underground. Buying a legit copy is grounds for abandonment by community groups

But I'm a hardcore gamer, and I buy games! Will people hate me for this?!

And wrote: Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPG) is a digital escape from the real world for emotionally unhealthy and mentally unstable people

Only them?

Once wrote: When videogames were linked to the Columbine high school shooters, a frenzy of new research was launched, in which, one team of researchers discovered that first person shooter games do indeed teach gamers with the basic knowledge of how to kill.

Now, how, may I ask, was that conclusion made? One single team of "researchers" all of a sudden "discovered" that, heaven forbid, computer games are bad! I wouldn't be surprised if those "researchers" were a group of actually emotionally unhealthy and mentally unstable mothers.

- Edited By SeienAbunae On Wed 1st, Jan 2003 @ 3:08:12pm

thnx SA, im writing a letter to them, anyone who wants to take their points and a good honest rebuttal of it (try to make it as general as possible, without linking directly to urself)

once im done with the letter, i shall submit it for further revision and ideas

I wrote a little email to them, didnt spend anytime and effort on it....here goes...

I find your site disgusting, and pathetic. Fact is the gaming industry made more revenue than the movie culture and music culture did for the past two years. Your site based on pathetic conspiracy theories of children playing games and going phycotic wont do nothing, you cant achieve nothing, have fun wasting your time.

-- Azz

And now the big thing: it's a fake. Clickie.

Now you tell us

and i got all excited over it too...
*sigh*

azz0r wrote: I wrote a little email to them, didnt spend anytime and effort on it....here goes...

I find your site disgusting, and pathetic. Fact is the gaming industry made more revenue than the movie culture and music culture did for the past two years. Your site based on pathetic conspiracy theories of children playing games and going phycotic wont do nothing, you cant achieve nothing, have fun wasting your time.

-- Azz

right on azz, they will have great fun wasting their time
and i hope them have alot of it to waste

pf: Maybe you should finish the letter and hand it in to an english teacher

That is pretty funny, the whole hoax thing, I understand the creator had alot of fun creating it. I just wish he didn't reveal that it was a hoax, so we could start seeing more mockeries, more hate mail, and maybe a fan site or two by some REAL moron mothers!

I LIKE HATE MAIL!
HATE MAIL THAT SITE!
hate mail 0wns
and flood that biatch

i really hate people that have nothing to do so they search for something to get rid of or blame becuase of their ideology. I think games are just as good as books most of the single player games tell great stories. Games are good and if they took them away there would probably be more riots and illegal activity than before games were taken away.

game smuggling
game cartels

we could make millions!!!! just look at teh st00pid drug ppl...

/me starts petition to make gaming illegal, and boots up his fserve, rubbing hand eagerly

Yes and get busted by the FBI

or CIA
(even worse)

FBI is much worse...or mi5..

I'm much more scared of my parents than any top-secret anti-me organisation