FAMINE - Food Economy Beta3 addon

It looks like a good add-on, time to test everything, and the question is, will there be difficulties if you include this addon and thirst from arszi?

Edit: All is well, I would say fine, but I am confused by one point, namely, that drinks remove a large amount of radiation instantly, it makes vodka better than anti-radiotic drugs, because while antiradus removes radiation it will have time to do damage, and when using alcohol damage can only be obtained from it. And overall, as I said the addon is really cool

This look very interesting , thank you for making this will have to give it a try , as i enjoy the cooking aspect of the game but vanilla always feels more like role play cooking rather than i must kill / cook this to live etc.

new game required ?

Amazing mod, was only mentioning about the food economy as a suggestion in the Anomaly Discord because the price and availability of clean/healthy food was way too easy and I've never had to use cooking Mutant meat at all even on the hardest difficulties.

Looks pretty interesting man, this is something that kinda fits in Dead Air IMO.

Nice addon.

Mod sounds promising. Just one question: can you make OPTIONAL: water wont reduce radiation only meds vodka etc....Thanks anyways for your work looking forward to try it

Prices of clean food should be higher. I know the goal is to consume 4000 kcal daily, but considering one in game day is a few real life hours, 1500 ru for a 400 kcal tuna can seems way too low. Its just not really a problem to buy clean food because days last for so long. You have plenty of free time to make money. This is personal preference but I feel like buying clean food is not punishing enough. Anyways its a really nice mod, and i believe you achieved your goal of immersion, hunting mutants, making cooking kits useful and reducing availability of industrial food. Good job!

Hello, will there be any problems with this Outfit_parts_overhaul mod?
There one file crosses over.

It'd be cool if this was dynamic - food prices and availability (and the availlability of mutants to hunt) changed over some cyclic periods.
Different foods become scarce, and if the changes to items were mapped to specific cycles it might be relative abundance or starvation.

It is nice mod. Hovewer - In combination with some other mods it kinda break balance. E.g. dynamic mutants - if you increase price of meat and parts you can break economy.

Also these are only indirect impacts, this mod uses a lot of files so it conflicts with other mods.

I definnetly like the direction that you choose to pursue. More meat roasting and more hunting.
I would opt out for food economy modification only (not drinks), some will definetly like everything.

So I would recomend to make this mod more modular. So you can use that part of mod that is good for your mod list. Also maybe consider making lite version of each modular section when you are at it.

This mod has big potential. i dont want to whimper, just trying to be constructive ... or something like that :)

Anyway good luck mate :)

So this mod doesent work with arzis radiation? anyway to make it compatible?

Why do I need arszi campfire? I want to delete it because it's brokes my campfire save system and i can't save game because of "enemies nearby" Anyone maybe how to fix it or do I need arszi roasting?

Are there any plans to patch compatibility with the Arszis_Radiation_Overhaul mod?

This addon requires a compatibility mod for Grok's Craft and Repair Overhaul. There's a conflict in death_items.ltx. GCARO removes all recipes from it (crafting is recipe-less there), so that change should be easy to reproduce here.

This addon utterly breaks Arszi's Radiation Overhaul. First, it overwrites actor.ltx, making actor die from radiation quickly (again). Second, it overwrites food & drink (mostly drink), making actor cure radiation with booze/cigarettes quickly once again.

Here's a merge with some FAMINE files that had ARO changes applied to them. I kept FAMINE buff durations, but took ARO effects (specifically, radiation removal and, for smokes, power boost) and rescaled them to these durations (i.e. total effect it the same as in ARO, it just occurs over different time; since you did change buff durations from vanilla, I assume that you had your reasons, so I respected them) - BROKEN VERSION ->>> [link is dead]
WORKING VERSION ->>> [link is also dead; see below]

Note that I did not change your mutant meat radiation dosage, so playing with FAMINE + ARO this way can be more or less difficult, depending on which meat you're eating - kind of the intention of this addon, I guess.

UPDATE: Fixed a typo. Use the working link above.

This addon does weird things to radiation/nutrition balance. Clean food is so expensive, that it might sometimes be cheaper to grill mutant meat on fire, eat it for nutrition, take large dose of radiation, then ask the nearest medic to cure you of radiation poisoning. As opposed to buying clean food (expensive) or preparing purified mutant meat (also expensive, since it requires expensive vodka). Derad costs 1480₽. Masculine meal (+2400 kcal, +600 mZv) costs 4125₽. Total cost: 5605₽ for 2400 kcal. Whereas a can of beef will cost you 7562₽ for 2000 kcal (for 2420 kcal you need to add a can of tomatoes for 1512₽, which brings the total to 9074₽). It's clear which is the most attractive option. If you roast your own meat, the cost is even lower (camping cooker is expensive, but you only need to get it once, and kerosene is dirt-cheap).

Not sure how to fix this. Maybe just acknowledge this, and add a cheap "eat here" dialog option to all barmen (which would either satiate you completely, or add some fixed number of kcal, and cost roughly as much as the radmeat+deard combo, per kcal)? Like, food items cost so much because you can take them with you and eat in the field, not because food is inherently expensive. At least this way it wouldn't feel like an exploit.

Would you ever consider making an "easy mode" to this mod? I like the idea, but it seems like it goes a little too far. Especially with how much calories you need in a day.

I actually had a super similar idea to this mod, but you blew it out of the water in terms of depth! Really outstanding job dude I love this. Literally the only thing we had different in mind is gasoline. You can not cook with gasoline unless you plan on making things go boom and any meat that did survive the blast is going to be inedible.

For some reason I cant light the field kit cooking kit with a match? I definitly have a box of them but its still greyed out.

I'm having the same problem slappingcow is describing. I tried disabling cooking and camping rebalance to see if its affecting Famine. The disposable camping cooker is still not usable. The other items, such as the army kettle, work fine. I also tried separating the items to see if that made a difference and still does not work. Not sure what the problem is.

Playing on survivalist, this mod made it easier in my opinion. I cook food and sell it for easy cash. But I gotta say, it was somewhat more fun to play with this mod. It makes you have more of a hunter mentality because you know you have a lot to gain from hunting. I ran after fleshes the fastest I could, their meat fetched something like 750 rubles from Sidorovitch. Cook it and it's even more valuable.

What I don't like is, gourmet meals being gone. Those meals added some more depth to cooking in the game and also an RPG concept.

However, I don't think it's compatible with:
-Radiation overhaul (items that were designed to not take away radiation, now do, with this mod)
-Fillable canteens (Can't boil water because cooking is redesigned)

A few compability patches would be nice. With more tinkering this mod could really be of big importance, haven't seen any other mod trying to tinker this much with mutant parts.

add IRP-B rations for spirit to vodka barter

Is this mod still being worked on? if so are there any plans for a compatibility patch for Fillable Canteens?