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I was contacted by Corey from TR earlier this day and after a conversation about what was right and not, permission and disrespect the following disprogress was made:

I, meaning the whole mod, has lost permission to use any Ages of Star Wars, FX mod and Thrawn's Revenge related content made by the members that made Ages of Star Wars.

This means the sith don't have any corvettes, we can't shoot with lasers and some explosions are gone. As you may know this is a setback. Major setback. Plus that I'm now listening to the warning of of ported content, meaning that all content from other games, like all ground units, epic looking heroes and nice troopers must be removed. No not removed, the models and skins must be removed and we have to make our own models. And that is a fucking problem on itself because we have a total of 2 modelers in the team. You can imagine how I feel as this is also the first time the mod team hears this.

Ok, what more is woth mentioning? Maybe all in short to make it all clear on your mind:
Lasers, all sith corvettes, some explosions, and all ground models and skins must be removed.

If anyone has any ideas about how to fix this investation of the darkside, he/she's free to sent me a personal message, email me or otherwise contact me. If you are a modeler, almost needless to say contact me. We need you more than ever.
That will be all problems on my mind for now, if more heavily important content must be removed I'll inform you all.

-Geroenimo

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Tyrranus
Tyrranus

hooray for pettiness, nothing like screwing over the community over someones epeen >.< best of luck man.Hope you can pull through all this bs

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GeneralKong
GeneralKong

****..... that really sucks, hopefully you'll pull through

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DarkAwakening
DarkAwakening

It in my opinion is a minor set back. Can look at it this way. New models will make theirs look like a child made them :)

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i-pee-chocolate-milk
i-pee-chocolate-milk

good job with the positive attitude dark, but itll take a while to do more explosions,completely remake corvettes, and start from scratch with lasers....and thats not even getting into the ground unit skins...

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DarkAwakening
DarkAwakening

ya i know. But it will give me the chance to focus all my attention on working on the new planets and codes for them and their abilities :) and let mne focus on some minor bugs of the units we have.

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DarkAwakening
DarkAwakening

might even let me get around to fixing the double icon in space battle in GC :) I've kinda been putting that fix off because i considered it minor. :p guess i won't have to many excuses anymore.

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Sanguinius
Sanguinius

Goddammit this is the best mod with "Old Republic" theme and i dont wait it to die.Im mad at myself for not knowing how to model :( plz someone help Geroenimo.

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Jeedai
Jeedai

knowing a bit of this from previous experiences, technically they both have and do not have permission to take away your models. they gave you permission and you had it, know they're taking it away. If you had a written or document about this agreement then they wouldn't be able to take the models away.

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Enceladus
Enceladus

Err, no. It doesn't work like that. Besides if you wanted a contract for whatever reason, a smart person would just insert a clause saying that they at any time can withdraw permission.

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GeneralTantor
GeneralTantor

why would they let you and then not let you that doesn't make sense? Did you upset them some way to make them not want you to have the models in the mod as a way of revenge?.....silly....

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Kody94
Kody94

I don't see why you couldn't just make your own in the first place. I mean, no offense, but what kind of modder just takes content from other mods for his own mod?

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Gen.Anthrax
Gen.Anthrax

Most do?

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$leeper
$leeper

oh, funny question guy... have you ever tried to make a mod? i want to see that you make everything yourself, without taking stuff from other mod's or other people... (asking for permission is a basic, if you do so)... so, if you got the permission, why shouldn't use stuff from others?

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Kody94
Kody94

As a matter of fact I have, and I realize how incredibly difficult it is, but I still think it's ridiculous taking content from other mods (permission or not). In my opinion it just makes the modder look lazy because he can't come up with his own content.

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neronix17
neronix17

Im currently making a mod for oblivion and its much bigger content wise (amount of models for one) than any existing mod for empire at war, I still have asked for use of other mods content because whats the point in making it myself if someone else has already done it better than I know Id do if I did it? Nothing wrong with getting other modders to help out your own mod, I just think that the main modder should be doing most of the work, not all of it though.

Anyway, back to this news, sucks, but if a mod doesnt take a while to make then it wont be high quality.

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DarthAwesome
DarthAwesome

We should have a petition.

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller

yeah we should
man ive waited their mod for years
in the release i was so disappointed
and now this
they are terrible people with a worse mod that has only graphics and nothing more
anyone against my comment pm me and ill explain better

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Emperors_Fist
Emperors_Fist

I'd support that. That's all I can say because the amount of rage I have in me wouldn't do any good.

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GeneralTantor
GeneralTantor

=/ so you didn't ask permission and they found out you using them? or did they say yes and then say no again.....?

If you just took the models without permission bad on you but if they let you and then turned around and said no then that's bad on them.

anyways now you have a chance to improve your modeling skills =) that sucks about not having the explosions though, they were awesome in the space demo.

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ZeronTR
ZeronTR

Mm. He accidentally used some of TRs GUI in some screenshots earlier. Corey asked him to remove them, but Geroenimo resisted and argued for a while. When he finally did remove them, he then posted an "explanation" that painted TR as arrogant, rude, and completely overreacting. The people who gave him permission to use AoSW, and FX stuff are on the TR team and took exception to that. They decided that they didn't want Geroenimo to use their stuff anymore, and so they rescinded that permission.

Also, it's kinda funny cause he complains about only having 2 modelers...TR only had at most 3 modelers at a time, and they frequently decided not to model or just didn't model for long periods of time. If his team has dedication, and free time, then they should recover and become even better than before.

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SamirA29
SamirA29

Yeah I read all about that. Sounds like a bunch of tight wads over there. I mod for a different game and its an honor if someone wants to use your stuff. It means it is worthy. Those guys need to lighten up.

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Elizabeth_Lestrad
Elizabeth_Lestrad

@JEvans
Arrogant, rude, and completely over reacting?! Over content IN A SCREENSHOT that WASNT EVEN IN THE MOD to begin with?! *Heavy sarcasm* Good heavens, I wonder how on earth he got THAT idea?

@Jonesta
A general lightening up would be nice, and definitly agree with your comment about it being an honor that Geronimoe should want to use their stuff.

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Wizardknight
Wizardknight

This can't be happening -dies of shock-

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ZeronTR
ZeronTR

Did you come back from the dead just to post that? ARE YOU A ZOMBIE?!

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Wizardknight
Wizardknight

Yes I'm a zombie now give your brain it looks tasty! BRAINS!!!

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u-raptor
u-raptor

take tr's brains, not ours! XD

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obliterator789
obliterator789

way to go thrawns revenge, nice way to go **** everything up. That mod's lost all my support now.

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Shaza
Shaza

(buried)

We didn't **** anything up, Obliterator.

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GeneralTantor
GeneralTantor

lol com down guys it's arguing and stuff that took permission away in the first place and there is no need for cursing.

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller

your and mine

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AK151
AK151

Guys, don't hate on TR, or any of the mod staff involved with this. Everyone involved has got fantastic mods, and in my opinion, as much as I love this mod, I think TR (and the other mod staffs [FX mod, AoSW]) had a legitimate reason to withdraw their permissions (go check the comments for the main section of either ORaW or TR, I forget). Please don't hate me for this, I'm just stating my honest opinion. I want ORaW as much as anyone here does.

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xPearse
xPearse

use there stuff anyway what can they do

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$leeper
$leeper

thats not gentleman like.. Oo
where would we be, if everybody walk this way/if everybody think like this.. thats baaad... -.-

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Jeroenimo Author
Jeroenimo

Well, if I steal something form them, even when I had permission to use it in the first place, the mod wont be uploaded because the site admins know that.

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u-raptor
u-raptor

that is just cruel man, why cant they just let you have the stuff, most of the mods say 'with credits/permission you are allowed to use' anyways. and this was going to be an awesome mod(it still is though)! Hope you can keep going, God's going to be on your side not theirs right now :)!

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neronix17
neronix17

I dont get it, Thrawns Revenge stuff isnt that great anyway :/ I played for a couple hours and felt like I was just playing the normal game with a bit better graphics, maybe I didnt see them but there wasnt exactly much in the form of new units, I do agree with them that their interface shouldnt be used since Im guessing they only gave you permission on the FX and models? Maybe posting about it was a bad idea anyway since really there wouldnt have been any need to.

But yeah after you already have all the stuff in the mod there really was no point in taking back permission to use it unless you did something seriously bad to upset the lot of them. You wanting to use their stuff could be taken two ways though, as some have said they should take it as a compliment blah blah blah, but Id personally see it as a "I want to piggy back off your stuff so I can get the credit for it as not a lot of people actually read credits and would presume I made the stuff..."

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Jeroenimo Author
Jeroenimo

So you're saying that I'm trying to rip of others and claim it as my own? You really don't have any idea of what I'm trying to do, so untill you get that, stop posting those very stupid scentences.

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u-raptor
u-raptor

on a modd emmy award thing, you would prob. win, not thrawn's rev.

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u-raptor
u-raptor

OWNED! my first post about God being on our side has been seen by tr, to TR: zues and krishna are not real!

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Enceladus
Enceladus

Cool story bro. That is what we could consider to define as the point of the post.

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u-raptor
u-raptor

are you saying my comment was good or bad?

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ZeronTR
ZeronTR

You posted the best post we have ever seen posted. We would like to see more posted, but by far posting has not proven to be the most posty form of posting online.

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u-raptor
u-raptor

wha?

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ZeronTR
ZeronTR

Inspiration from God.

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u-raptor
u-raptor

thanks man

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Sol-fa
Sol-fa

Shame that the ground/Galactic conquest has been put-back, but on a brighter note I never did like the Corvettes you used from AoSW and I never really liked them in AoSW either.

Keep up the great any way :)

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u-raptor
u-raptor

has anyone noticed somebody keeps pressing the (-) button on all the positive comments?

I was wondering if it was just me....

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