Hi, guys,
I know I promissed that article some weeks ago, but as usual real life problems had other plans for me :)
In this article we will show all space units for the Republic. You can count this article as outdated. As not all of them are ready yet, we will add them later to this article and of course will announce that, but we won't add other articles on the matter. This will be a really long article :)
So, let's start with the Space Station. You already know that we are going to use the Valor Space station as main Republic base in space. It will have 5 levels as vanilla:
Republic Space Station
- Tech level 1
- Tech level 2
- Tech level 3
- Tech level 4
- Tech level 5
Small fighters and bombers
V-19 Torrent starfighter
- The main fighter for the Republic at the beginning of the war, it will come only with Phase I pilots
- Warthog as 104th custom pilot
BTL-B Y-wing starfighter
The main backbone of any space fleet, this will be the bomber for the Republic through the Clone Wars. And as you know, we can not restrain us from any customizations, so we choosed the BTL for that. On the top picture you can see a Phase I regular BTL-B unit and on the next pictures you can see the custom ones:
- 41st elite corps
- 104th Battalion
- 182nd Legion
- 212th Attack Battalion (same as regular units)
- 501st Legion
- Diplomatic Escort Group (Coruscant Guard division)
And Phase II:
- 41st elite corps
- 104th Battalion
- 182nd Legion
- 187th Legion
- 212th Attack Battalion (same bomber, but pilot has Open Circle pattern on the helmet)
- 501st Legion (Pilots with 501st pattern)
- Diplomatic Escort Group (Coruscant Guard division)
ARC-170 starfighter
Phase I
- Regular units only
Phase II
- Regular
- Open Circle
- OddBall (212th)
Phase III
- Regular
- Open Circle
- Jag, Hunter Squadron and the 104th custom units
- OddBall (212th)
Z-95 Headhunter starfighter
- The Phase II main fighter for the Republic in the later stages of the war on both ground and space
- Regular
- Open Circle
And some custom pilots
- Warthog (104th)
- Killer (212th)
- Hawk (501st)
Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing starfighter
A fighter for the last tech level, we stil haven't fully decided what role it will have ingame
- Phase II
- Phase III with special helmets
Jedi fighters
For the Jedi, who prefer to be on the front lines, not to stay on the command bridge they will take one of the following fighters to fly next to their clone troopers.
Phase I
- Delta-7 Aethersprite-class light interceptor
Phase II
- Eta-2 Actis-class light interceptor
For now that's all small crafts in space.
You will find out how custom fighters works at the end of the article
Medium and Support ships
- Republic stealth ship
Consular-class space cruiser
Arquitens-class light cruiser
Pelta-class frigate
Acclamator-class assault ship in two variants (and one special)
- At Tech Level 1 (the beggining of the war)
- Regular (after Tech Level 2)
- Open Circle
Capital ships
Venator-class Star Destroyer in two variants
- Regular
- Open Cicle
- Flagship (some will also have the Open Circle marks)
- Open Circle Flagship
Super Capital ships
Well, this is the big question mark for us. What can we add for a super capital? What do you want to be added?
Please suggest your ideas in the comments or in PM to me, but only supported with a reference to an existing model of that ship
Additional information
So, how custom fighters will actually work?
- They will be spawn only unit, the escort for a hero space ship. I'll try to explane it with this table:
On the left is the Hero you will see as an icon in GC or in the Space station in skirmish and on the right you can see what units you will gain ingame.
Of course other heroes that are not in the table, but are in the Space heroes list will also have Venator or other space ship, but they will spawn only regular units.
Supercapital recommendations:
- Praetor Mark I, (or since they didn't know there would be a Mk 2, just a Praetor): Moddb.com
- Mandator-I dreadnaught: Aminoapps.com
- Procurator: Moddb.com OR Moddb.com
I suggest the procurator model from fractalsponge. It's much more reminiscent of the limited images seen in the old comics of large battlecruisers. Also you would have to have mandator 2 because the 1s were upgraded to the 2 standard since they had a hyperspace travel limit.
a mandator, tat way we can have the imperials have the mandator 2.
if you want some more out there ideas maybe a limit of 5 ISDs as the midway pint between capital and super capital, but i hope you guys do something original because just using one super ship would feel like republic at war, not that there's something wrong with that but mods should be about variety
We won't have any ISDs or other imperial unit in the mod
So I understand if you don't want ISDs, but if you are looking for Super Capital Ships, then even in Canon the Republic used the Victory-class. Most of the other mods for this era use them too if I recall.
Well, depends on what do you call canon :)
I don't remember any Victory class in the movies or TCW. Actually what's the source for the Victory? (sorry, no time to do the research myself at the moment)
True. It is mentioned as being in service with the Galactic Republic Navy towards the end of the Clone Wars in the new Canon novel Tarkin. They haven't mentioned the separate Victory I and Victory II class existing, just that the Victory SDs did exist during the Republic Navy.
Starwars.wikia.com
Thanks for the info
Novelization for revenge of the sith and most EU sources place the Victory-I SD with the republic fleet.
Nolanstar, yes, EU, but nothing canon. Btw, when and where exactly the Victory appears in the novelization?
When Kenobi is going to Utapau he compares the size of some sinkholes to being larger then a Victory-class
Star Destroyer.
From a new cannon perspective the Tarkin novel confirms it as a ship anyway.
Ok, thanks for info.
It's still not enough for me to add it in the mod
I thought that bomber pilots had a grey and red color scheme, (seen in tcw)
Echo-Foxtrot, maybe you saw some of the custom pilots. Any ref pics?
ref pics: Vignette.wikia.nocookie.net
Clonetrooper.wikia.com
in the second image I'm referring to the body, but you guys can get creative with customization I guess.
Echo-Foxtrot, on the first picture is a vehicle driver, we already have them in the mod.
On the second one is a concept clone that we never saw in the show(as far as I know), but we are using the body design for Killer
Thanks for hearing me out.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :)
More ideas for supercapital:
Verigitor Battleship Moddb.com
Imperial Star Destroyer
You know how in some mods, creators use the turret stations to begin construction on stations parsay? maybe you could have the super capital be the Death Star Prototype, and have it take a very long time to build in GC, and in skirmish it would do very high damage but have almost no defenses and a super long recharge time?
We prefer to have ships, not stations
From a logical perspective of something that can be done both realistically and balanced but is not too big so that it needs to be nerfed or shrunk the Praetor-1 is probably the best bet. Using the Fractalsponge Praetor design -which the EGTW endnotes confirm is the correct appearance for the 1) rather then the usual Taggeco Battleship model. Its a big 4-kilometer ship with a known appearance that can be done powerfully but beatable by say 10 capitals rather then a weird nerfed/glitch 8-kilometer mandator-1 or 2.
Or if trying to be different and sticking to "pure cannon/Disney" vessels as the super ship go with the Secutor as it showed up in Tarkin - something no other clone wars mod has done but the cannon status for republic use is literally a "maybe" - actually serious since the out of universe source said that they possibly saw late clone wars usage.
Nolanstar Hmm, thank you for sharing your thoughs. It's very the valuable analysis to me, as I don't have the time to do that research
The valiant class is good ship
Yeah, it's not a bad carrier. We have it in mind
good
Really Cool models
Thank you!
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