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Science and Industry 2 release their 1.0 public beta for the world to try. Briefcases at the ready, lets go knock out some scientists!

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Rocket PistolYes, it's here at last. The beta version of Science and Industry 2 for Half-Life 2 is now available to download. Get your briefcases and rocket pistols ready, enjoy the new shrink rays and give this successor to one of HL1's biggest multiplayer mods a good run through. Servers are available worldwide.


Clarification: Some people seem to be expecting a full-blown version of the mod with everything in place. If you are, this isn't it. This is a beta version with most of the coding in place, but still distinctly lacking in polish. Look further than eye candy and enjoy the gameplay!

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INtense! Staff
INtense! - - 4,098 comments

wow I cannot believe this... S&I was one of the first mods I ever tried.

Amazing to think it is back again.

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Midnitte
Midnitte - - 128 comments

Indeed, this mod is going to be "intense"!

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freredarme
freredarme - - 4,357 comments

Nice, i'll download soon.

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John845
John845 - - 53 comments

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Worst mod ever.

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Armageddon104
Armageddon104 - - 3,128 comments

Best mod Eva :D

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NightSage
NightSage - - 644 comments

Compared to the first the mod looks and plays like complete crap. If you played the first and expected a good release look elsewhere or wait a bit for version 2.0 or something.

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NightSage
NightSage - - 644 comments

HES A WITCH! A WITCH! HIS OPINIONS AREN'T PRAISING THE MOD! BURN HIM!!

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Dogmeat65
Dogmeat65 - - 47 comments

*Sigh* When will people learn that saying "It sucks" isn't helpful, and is really just plain rude.

If you want to provide negative feedback, do it in a constructive manner, i.e. exactly why you don't like it. Just being negative helps no one.

I'll certainly be giving this a try when I get home though :D

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leilei
leilei - - 5,721 comments

The first release of S&I wasn't pretty with sugar on top, either. Everything has to start off somewhere. Not every mod team wastes time on promotional polish to get some beta out to weed out the bugs in the gameplay.

This SI2 is good stuff.

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Lt_Veron
Lt_Veron - - 209 comments

w0000t its out:O? i was sure the mod gone dead for hl2 engine but im happyly amazed you guys actualy made it:) good job!

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Plinkotink
Plinkotink - - 373 comments

I never understood this mod for HL1 (only played it for like 5 min at a lan center)
Im gonna need some incentive to download it :)

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jacksonj04 Author
jacksonj04 - - 631 comments

Science and Industry was one of the first mods to introduce varying gameplay deathmatch in which the decisions made by team members change how the game is played, for instance if one team invests heavily in personal enhancements such as speed boosts the other team tends to not focus as much on high-accuracy ranged weapons and instead on spray-and-pray.

Hopefully S&I 2 will bring the same dynamics to HL2.

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Ladedah
Ladedah - - 208 comments

Holy crap, this is out of the blue.
DOWNLOADED.

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pedro0930
pedro0930 - - 68 comments

Well, the coding parts are mostly done from what I can see. Now we just need to get some models and animation.

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papermoose
papermoose - - 17 comments

Nice surprise release. I'll try it as soon as I can.

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Forsete
Forsete - - 619 comments

Shrink... SHRINK RAYS!? Oh now I need to try this.

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DjozeR
DjozeR - - 55 comments

Wow, nice, S&I2 :) I can't wait for the first real release :D
Thanks so much for making it a Source Mod <3.

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xlucidx
xlucidx - - 275 comments

Terrible mod, it's not a beta at all.
More like a pre-alpha.

Next time wait until you actually have a mod to release before hand.

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Masterhobbes
Masterhobbes - - 139 comments

Played it, alpha not bad, not great :D

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Whizzard
Whizzard - - 459 comments

What? What!? WHAT!?!? YAAAAY!

I have always wanted to try S&I ever since it was on PC magazine, but I didn't have HL, but after HL2 release the same magazine mentioned that S&I 2 was in production and then I got myself hyped again. I try this as soon as I will have time to download this.

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Stricker
Stricker - - 29 comments

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How can you justify this as beta stage? This is a huge disappoint, please don't bother releasing content publicly, if it's hardly playable at all.

I loved S&I, but this is just... poor.

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mjnowak
mjnowak - - 104 comments

They have their priorities right, gameplay is almost fully implemented to what I remember from the first game, dont give them **** cause its not pretty, under the ugly, generic hl2 models is the gameplay i wish most mods today have : /

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leilei
leilei - - 5,721 comments

true but hl2 mod fans are so spoiled by the likes of insurgency that they want a complete polished gold full game on initial release. Even some of the staffers here are like that.
If they have a problem with the lack of graphics, then maybe they should STFU and help the mod get good graphics instead of working on some zombie or bullet terrorists or stupid civilian comics piece of crap and stop playing favorites.

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Snarboo
Snarboo - - 214 comments

A lot of people aren't familiar with the term "programmer art". :p

If you have a good base for sound and graphics, such as those from CS or HL2, it allows you to focus on code and gameplay first. It also allows you to study how assets are made and loaded into the engine.

There is no shame in doing this, and even professional studios such as Valve do it. Some of the videos I've seen for Left 4 Dead used sounds from CS, for example.

I don't currently have HL2 installed, but I'll have to try this out when I get a chance.

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leilei
leilei - - 5,721 comments

Yeah there's the problem, people want graphics

when Goldeneye Source was released (which had the worst gameplay ever, basically a very stripped hl2dm with just bullet sprayers and a whole load of copyright infringement) people praised that like a god.

But when you've got something that's mostly codework and hardly any new graphics, such as Science & Industry 2 it's a "NO IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN RELEASED THIS SUCKS WORST MOD EVER."

It's an unrealistic vision but that's HL2's fanbase for you.
This release was a good decision. It is much better than the release of 'nothing' like most anticipated overhyped hl2 mods with simpler ideas.

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Dogmeat65
Dogmeat65 - - 47 comments

Absolutely agreed, the expecations of the HL2 mod crowd have become completely unrealistic over recent years, which is a shame as some really great mods get shunned for no good reason.

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drhead
drhead - - 59 comments

Pepole need to learn that mods arnt some ******* EA product. its a mod.

This is awesome they got thier pirorty right

Gameplay First
Sexiness later.

So stop going all ballistic.

i would think of this as a Were not Dead Release.

Im up to help this mod if they need a mapper.

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lodle
lodle - - 204 comments

You need to add the multi fire fix to it. (dont worry as the first ges beta had this as well)

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Da-Fort
Da-Fort - - 265 comments

Sorry, I didn't know it was actually a beta!
You'll get lots of player input in this one.

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Mademan
Mademan - - 17 comments

Beta sucks ***. I don't think they should've released it like that.

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kmarvell125
kmarvell125 - - 121 comments

I read shrink ray, leads me to believe that SI2 will wind up doing what the first did. Try to improve a game that was already perfect.

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Lowang
Lowang - - 4 comments

I like many others love the idea that SI1 gets remade. And I don´t care for the graphics or models.
I´m not spoiled by good-looking mods either, it´s the fun a mod provides, not if the models look just like Angelina Jolie.
But I still agree that this thing doesn´t deserve the title ´beta´ just yet.
Some things for example, among others, that are lacking to be an enjoyable but not quite finished game (i.e. Beta):
- At least add a rough text what the researchable items do
- Add a text message when a research is finished, doesn´t have to be some fancy voice or anything, just plain text
- Let the radio play something, just anything, and if its static, it´s fine

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Lowang
Lowang - - 4 comments

Just adding this.
I just read on the Hp that the producer is "sorry for the misleading title", so my beef with that is already forgotten. :)

Keep going&keep up the good work, I can´t wait to get my hands on a new version of this in the near future *g*

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