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Here is a full ist of Ships per faction on each side, in ascending power order...

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Hey
Ok those not watching the image section wont know this, everyone else will, well some of it anyway, and this is the correct order...

Stargate
Death Gliders (light fighter) - Tech 1
Wraith Dart (light fighter) - not buildable, spawn carrier
F302 (heavy fighter) - tech 1 - with upgrade
Alkesh (light bomber) - tech 1
Puddle Jumpers (heavy bomber) - tech 2 - with upgrade
BC304 (tier 1 ) - tech 1 - with upgrade - ability: boost
Hatak (tier 2 ) - tech 2
Apophis Hatak (tier 3 ) - tech 2- ability: cloak
Anubis Hatak (tier 4 ) - tech 2
Wraith Cruiser (tier 5 ) - tech 3- shipyard
Beliskner (tier 6 ) - tech 3 - with upgrade
Ori Warship (tier 7 ) - tech 3 - with upgrade
Oniell (tier 8 ) - tech 4 - with upgrade
304 mk2 (tier 9 ) - tech 4 - with upgrade
Wraith Hive (tier 10 ) - tech 5 - shipyard - carrier
Aurora Class(tier 11 ) - tech 5 - shipyard
Oniell mk2 (tier 12 ) - tech 5
Hammond (hero tier 0) - Faction Leader
SG1(hero tier 1) - Alkesh - Ability:Cloak
Mitchel (Hero Tier 2) - In X305 - Modified 302 3 man squad - Ability: lucky shot (thats an asgard beam)
Lionel Pendergast (hero tier 3) - X303 (Prometheus) - Ability:Boost speed, Power to shield
Apophis (Hero Teir 4) - Apophis Motheship - Ability: Boost Weapons
Anubis (Hero Teir 5) - Anubis Mothership - Ability: Boost wepaons
Daedalus (Hero Teir 6) - BC304 MK2 - Ability: Boost shield, barrage (shield destroying rail guns)
Thor (Hero Tier 7) - Oniel Mk2 - Ability: Boost Shield

Battlestar
Viper mk2(light fighter) - Tech 1
Old Cylon raider (light fighter) - not buildable, spawn carrier
Viper Mk 7(heavy fighter) - not buildable, spawn from battlestars
New Cylon raider (heavy fighter) - Tech 2 - with upgrade
Raptor (light bomber) - Tech 1
Heavy Raider (heavy bomber) - Tech 2 - with upgrade
Firestar (tier 1 ) - tech 1 - ability: boost
Tiger (tier 2 ) - tech 2
max class (tier 3 ) - tech 2 - shipyard- ability: cloak
Defender (tier 4 ) - tech 2
Talos (tier 5 ) - tech 3 - with upgrade
Valkyrie (tier 6 ) - tech 3 - with upgrade
Columbia Class (tier 7 ) - tech 3 - with upgrade
Bezerk (tier 8 ) - tech 4
Strikestar (tier 9 ) - tech 4
Hades Class (tier 10 ) - tech 5 - shipyard - carrier
Mercury Class (tier 11 ) - tech 5- with upgrade
New cylon base star (tier 12 ) - tech 5
Predisent Roslin (hero tier 0) - Faction Leader
Starbuck (hero tier 1) - Blackbird (black Viper Mk2) - Ability:Cloak
Scar (Hero Tier 2) - New Cylon Raider - 3 man squad - Ability: lucky shot (thats an shield penitrating nuke)
Apollo (hero tier 3) - Firestar - Ability:Boost speed
Kendra Shaw (Hero Teir 4) - Valkyrie - Ability: Boost Weapons
Adama (Hero Teir 5) - Galactica - Ability: barrage
Cain (Hero Teir 6) - Pegasus - Ability: power to weapons
Number 1 (Hero Tier 7) - New Basestar

Star Wars
Tie fighter (light fighter) - Tech 1
X wing (heavy fighter) - Tech 1 - with upgrade
tie bomber (light bomber) - Tech 1
Y wing (heavy bomber) - tech 2 - with upgrade
Corellian Corvette (tier 1) - tech 1 - with upgrade - ability: boost
Acclamator Assault Ship (tier 2) - tech 2
Interdictor (tier 3) - tech 2 - ability: normal ingame ones
Broadside Cruiser (tier 4) - tech 2
MC30 Frigate (tier 5) - tech 3
Alliance assault frigate (tier 6) - tech 3 - with upgrade
Victory Destroyer (tier 7) - tech 3
Nebulon B (tier 8) - tech 4 - with upgrade
Calamari Cruiser (tier 9) - tech 4 - with upgrade
Krayt Destroyer (tier 10) - tech 5 - carrier
Star destroyer (tier 11) - tech 5
Super Star destroyer (tier 12) - tech 5 - shipyard
Emperor (Hero Tier 0) - Leader
Han Solo (Hero Tier 1) - Millenium Falcon - Ability: Invinsible
Luke (Hero Tier 2) - X-Wing - Ability: Lucky Shot
Sundered Heart (Hero Tier 3) - Ability: Boost Speed
Yoda (Hero Tier 4) - Venator (jedi ship) - Ability: SPHA-T laser weapon (assuming i can get it to work)
Home One (Hero Tier 5)
Accuser Star Destroyer (Hero Tier 6)
Vader (Hero Tier 7) - Super Star Destroyer

Star Trek
Type 9 (light fighter) - Tech 1
Type 11 (heavy fighter) - Tech 2
Danube (light bomber) - Tech 1
Danube Torpedo (heavy bomber) - Tech 2
Constitution (tier 1 ) - tech 1 - ability: boost
Intrepid (tier 2 ) - tech 2
Nebula Medic (tier 3 ) - tech 2 - shipyard - ability: heals other ships
Norway(tier 4 ) - tech 2
Nebula melburn (tier 5 ) - tech 3
Excelsior Lakota (tier 6 ) - tech 3
Nebula (tier 7 ) - tech 3
Galaxy(tier 8 ) - tech 4
Soverign (tier 9 ) - tech 4
Akira (tier 10 ) - tech 5 - shipyard - carrier
Excalibur (tier 11 ) - tech 5
Borg Cube(tier 12 ) - tech 5 - shipyard
Starfleet Commander (hero tier 0) - Faction Leader
Sisko (hero tier 1) - USS Defiant - Ability:Cloak
Spock (Hero Tier 2) - Type 11 - 3 man squad - Ability: lucky shot (thats a torpedo of some type)
JT Kirk (hero tier 3) - Constitution class "Enterprise "
Captain Janeway (Hero Teir 4) - USS Voyger
USS Excelsior (Hero Teir 5) - Excelsior class - Commander Hikaru Sulu
USS Odyssey (Hero Tier 6) - galaxy class - Captain Keogh
Captain Picard (Hero Teir 7) - Excalibur Class "Enterprise"

I know this list isn't 100% canon, but for balanced gameplay (more importnat to me) some things have to be sacreficed lol...

light fighters are good at countering fighters, and light bombers
heavy fighters are good at countering heavy bombers and light bombers
light bombers can take on the smaller larger ships, they do shield damage as well as hull damage, more shield than hull
heavy bombers can take on anyo f the larger ships, the have shield pass weapons so they do no shield damage and good hull damage.
Tier 1s can take on all the fighter/bombers easily enough, are fast
Tier 2/3/4 are all relativly the same strength... so are Tier 5/6 , 7/8, 9/10, 11/12
Ive tried to grab a hero to cover these groups, thats y theres 7 heroes. I know not all the groups are covered, but on average i think itll work out ok

Also all carriers generate 5 of there light fighters, 3 heavy fighters, 3 light bombers and 2 heavy bombers and are sting against corvettes and other anti-fighter units...
let me explain the rest of the tier setup. Each teir is identically powered. They are counter units of the lower tiers...
the list is still open to variance.... minor variance....

As for whats left to do
Light Fighters - DONE
Heavy Fighters - DONE
Light Bombers - DONE
Heavy Bombers - DONE
Tier 1 - DONE
Tier 2 - DONE
Tier 3 - DONE
Tier 4 - DONE
Tier 5 - DONE
Tier 6 -
Tier 7 -
Tier 8 -
Tier 9 -
Tier 10 -
Tier 11 -
Tier 12 -
Hero Tier 0 -
Hero Tier 1 -
Hero Tier 2 -
Hero Tier 3 -
Hero Tier 4 -
Hero Tier 5 -
Hero Tier 6 -
Hero Tier 7 -
Starbase Lv1 -
Starbase Lv2 -
Starbase LV3 -
Starbase Lv4 -
Starbase Lv5 -
Update AI with new buildable units -

now u know what ive got ahead of me... remember each tier has 4 units... for each unit i have to not only balance speed, health, shields, hardpoint damage, armor type, damage type, fire rate, projectile type.... etc...

So yeh long story short ill be working on this when i get a chance, and marking those things ive finished. Ill be doing it in order of whats there stuff not listed isn't really important enough for me to deal with ATM.

Spino

Comments
LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller

i hope you make carriers powerful and just a note, star destroyers are more powerful than mon calamry cruisers

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

Also, the Super Star Destroyer was more powerful than the Star Destroyers, and weren't carriers.

From the looks of it, though, I think you mean those to be the Venator Star Destroyers from Episode III, though.

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller

well i said that to spino but balancing seems to be very hard, and yes venator are made to be carriers and ship-to-ship combat

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obliterator789
obliterator789

when will the next patch be released?

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

lol, next patch, when its done, to be honest, ive coded the light fighters that all
as for the carriers, i chose ones that are big, why? they fit more little ships, and i didn't want the damn wraith hive to be the biggest thing in the mod lol, so the SSD has been powered back
after all the mod isn't 100% cannon ive said that
some sacrefices have to be made

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

So...there are going to be SSD's, but not Venators?

Sorry, just a tad confused, as the Venators themselves aren't mentioned in the Empire ship list, but one is in the ship line up (the pictures), while the SSD is mentioned but not in the ship line up.

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

yeh im still getting the models for the SSD and which one (count from the corilian corvette) back is the venator?

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neronix17
neronix17

in the third image it is rite next to the ori mothership, hard to miss really :P

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

yeh, in the xml files its called Krayt Destroyer
i assumed thats the one u meant lol
but i could shoufle it, bump it up to carrier and move everything else down a row and put the SSD in the borg cube level... ill think about it...

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

That's odd...if I remember correctly, the "Krayt Destroyer" was that Zann Ship in the vanilla game.

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obliterator789
obliterator789

technically....the borg cube should be in a class on its own after all other classes becase it is the most powerful ship out of all 4 shows combined

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

meh, one word, balance....

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SCΛRECROW
SCΛRECROW

Death Star II. Planet Killer.

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

or the dakara weapon... turn it to atomic dust....

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

yeh, ive always known it as 'the jedi ship thingy' lol

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

Heh. At least it's close to the purpose, no?

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

yeh good point, ill consider it, im hopefully going to get some of the bombers/fighters coded today, so well see

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Axeman741
Axeman741

Just some suggestions for star wars hero's

General Garm bel Iblis in the Peregrine a dreadnought/alliance assault frigate (Hero Tier 4) Ability: power to shields.
Captain Gilead Pellaeon in the Chimera an imperial class star destroyer (Hero Tier 5) Ability: power to weapons.

Just let me know if you need more info

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

i was thinking Yoda in a non-carrier jedi cruiser for the hero tier 5... and ive already got a star destroyer as a hero... but ill consider it, like all input lol

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller

its missing vader in SW maybe he could be:
Executor (tier 13) - tech 5 - power to weapons (need to be built)
it would be a stronger SSD that carries less fighters

its a great list. the next version will use it?

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

yeh ive moved the SSD out or carrier and into tier 12, so ill consider the vader in one...

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

I think Yoda in a non-carrier Venator/Jedi Cruier would be awesome...Perhaps call it the "Resolution" or something?

Also, would it be possible to add the SPHA-T laser weapon to the Venator?

At 1:09 you'll see a Venator shoot a beam, that's what I'm referring to. I think it would be interesting, and it was a common modification.

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

its sorta like the tractor beam, ill look into it, and c ifi ts possilbe

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

The beam is actually more like the "Proton Beam" or whatever on the Accuser Star Destroyer in the current release.

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

i mean VFX wise lol

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

Ah, I see.

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

How bout this, vader on a victory destroyer (tier 4) and General Garm bel Iblis in the Peregrine a dreadnought/alliance assault frigate for tier 5?

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

That would be interesting, although, I don't think Vader himself was ever in a Victory SD...

But as Anakin, he might have been on board several Venators, though.

Yeah...I'll admit...I like Venators for whatever reason.

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

lol, same, but sunce ive uped them to the roll of carrier, and there wont be any carrier heroes, no hero will be in one...

I need someone in an intermediate ship, between corvette and capital, so thats y i tried to divide it up a little, and it never has to be cannon, thats the golden rule lol

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Wordsmith_Vithar
Wordsmith_Vithar

True. Although, the Venator could be up-armed and lose the carrier ability. Although, it's your call really, I'm not the modder.

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker

how bout star trek heroes, any ideas anyone?

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