Animation and model ideas Thread - Totaler Krieg: 1939-45 mod for Battle of Empires : 1914-1918

Hi Sturm.
I hope I haven't left this too late. These are just a few ideas I had about your mod. No worries if you don't get a chance to implement them but it would be great if you could. Here's the list:

• Anti-tank mines to be carried by handles on the mines by one arm and then held by two
  arms when laying the mine.
• Anti-tank and anti-personal mines should be collected from boxes. It seems unreal
  for soldiers to have loads of mines in their back packs,they would
  weigh too much.
• Mines should be
  laid by soldiers going back and forth to boxes with mines in them.
  With two soldiers carrying box as they go along the route that is
  being mined
• Medics can patch
  up wounded and also revive unconscious troops.
• New dragging
  wounded animation. The dragging heavy weapons i.e. Russian machine
  gun animation would be good for this. Imagine the opening scene from
  Saving Private Ryan on the beach as Tom Hanks is dragging his buddy.
  That's the animation I'm thinking of here.
• Soldiers can take
  out a tank by lobbing in a grenade down the hatch if the hatch has
  been found open,i.e. After the commander has been killed. Soldier
  would need to use a climbing animation to do this,maybe some from
  when tank crews climb into there tanks might work.
• Soldiers can dig
  fox holes using animation from Moscow is behind us from MOW Soviet
  campaign. Soldiers must have spades for this in their back
  backs/inventory.
• Wounded and dying
  animations,maybe using the sleeping animations from Behind enemy
  lines from the MOW Soviet campaign?
• Soldiers can move
  about for 5mins until he dies unless a medic gets to him first and
  saves his life.
• Soldiers don't
  disappear when hit by H.E. Unless very close to huge amount of T.N.T
  or H.E.
• Soldiers don't
  disappear when crushed by a tank but do have a squashed look
  afterwards.
• Rifle grenades
  with detachable grenade using Panzerfaust entity and animation but
  changing the size of the explosive charge to resemble a grenade.
  Don't know if this can be done but it would look fantastic in game.
• Wounded tank
  crew/vehicle crew could be dragged out of vehicles using a new
  animation of some sorts but I think of where to find it.
• No instantaneous
  sand bag erections for any heavy weapon or troops,they seem fantasy
  like.
• Paradrop should
  have a full plane load of troops not just one or two men, it just
  doesn't seem right.
• Animation for
  jumping out of a half track. Animation for jumping over fences could
  be used here. This could also work for troops jumping over the side
  of a landing craft.
• Half track doors
  open when soldiers get back into vehicle via those doors.
• Soldiers lying
  prone have right leg straight if firing weapon with right hand and
  vise versa (usual way recruits are taught to fire a weapon) but
  still leave the original animation so that there are two types.
• Some more
  animations when throwing grenades and molotovs, possibly underarm if
  enemy is close by or when trying to toss under a vehicle.
• Foliage on helmets
  but with netting too.
• New melee attack
  for more realistic hand to hand.
• Dogs and cavalry?
• Tank crew don't
  get blown out of tank when it explodes and then get up...alive.
  Better if they stay in tank or get blown out in a rather chewed up
  state.
• New running/
  walking animations similar to Stalingrad for the future mod.
• Soldiers able to
  dig fox holes to allow tank to go over them with out dying and maybe
  attach an explosive of some sort.
• Sticky bomb or
  magnetic mine animation so soldier can attach explosive to tank
  instead of only being able to throw anti- tank grenade.
• Bayonet charge and
  fix bayonet animation.
• Wounded soldiers
  hold arms or legs or where ever they've been shot like COH and can't
  use these wounded areas, so a soldier shot in the legs has to crawl
  or stay put.If soldier shot in the torso then he would need a medic
  to keep him alive.
• Stretchers can be
  used to carry wounded away.
• Soldiers don't fly
  through the air when shot by small arms but spinning around and just
  dropping look ok. Keeping the running momentum and then falling
  which the game currently uses still looks good and should be kept.
• Jump gear for
  airborne troops and life jackets,gas mask bags, etc for beach landing troops being omitable, maybe
  going into the soldier's inventory.
• Suicidal Russian
  conscripts with explosives packs that charge tanks and detonate on
  impact.
• No more health
  bars .Plus less amounts of bullets to kill soldier.
• Wireless /Radio
  operator to have head phones. Maybe the tank crew ones could be
  used.
• Morters to have
  more killing power, at the moment there about as deadly as an old
  lady shooing away a cat. Morter rounds like incendiary would be cool
  too.
• Woolly commando
  hat for British troops would be great for commando raids.
• Better grenade
  burst damage.
• Zeltbahns and
  grenades in Panzer Grenadiers boots.

It's a bit of a list
Sturm but I've got a feeling that most of them have been done, right?
;>

P.S. Did you finish off
the German smock models?
Cheers. Screaming
Budgie.

Edited by: ScreamingBudgie

Excellent suggestions Screaming Budgie, as soon as I have finished my texture maps for my models I will try and implement as many of your suggestions as possible.

- Reminder for self, change Mg tripod movement to one crew member instead of 2, increase speed and try and change walking animation to running.

Sturm

Thanks for that Sturm, really appreciate it. I think it would be great to have both animations for the MG Tripod (one crew member and two crew members) also walking would be a good animation too, like a patrol option so you could have three speeds for soldiers , walking, running at a moderate pace and sprinting. There could be two types of animations here, one with back more or less upright whilst walking, running and sprinting, (for maximum speed when sprinting) and another animation with body bent over like the usual way you see soldiers running in WW2 to avoid being hit. Also you could have them walking a bit bent over but only slightly, like they are anticipating walking into danger at any moment, which would be good for a patrol on the move, not troops walking about in a safe area. Another thing which I've come across a few times now is that German troops used to run with their weapon in one hand (don't know if this is true) but maybe this could be taken into consideration with animations but only for running, walking on patrol would need soldiers to have both hands on the weapon at all times.
Cheers Sturm. Screaming Budgie.

Hello!

I''ve done a wish list of all players of MOW:AS, and it can give you some ideas for modding, here:
Digitalmindsoft.eu

Some ideas of ScreamingBudgie are good and i ll update this list with some of his remarks too.

Regards.
Bass

Thanks Bassmanianc, I will have a read of your suggestions and see what I can do.

Sturm

Hi Bassmaniac. That's great news. If we can get more people involved with Sturms mod, ideas and suggestions it would make it a lot easier for Sturm to get it ready in time and hopefully add some more things that haven't been thought of before. Cheers. Screaming Budgie

SCreamingbudgie - to keep things simple, I have implemented a fare few of your suggestions however, I hope you understand the majority of your suggestions I cannot implement as some are simply 'hardcoded' or too much effort to implement for little gameplay / visual benefit. I hope you understand.

Thanks again,

Regards,
Sturm

No worries Sturm. These are just suggestions that you can pick and choose from. I just get ideas running around my head and and then just dot them down and let you take your pick from. It's great news that your actually going to use some of them.I'm honoured:de:8) .
Stay lucky. Screaming Budgie

I think I will have another look through this list to see what else can be accomplished now with my greater knowledge of the GEM engine java code.

Sturm.

About the MG tripod, how about making the two crew members like this vid?
Youtu.be

So, one of the carry the MG and the other carry the tripod

I wish there was a definitive way of removing the health bars.

Sturm.

What would you do if your animation with Machine Gun Man can carry a machine gun on his shoulder? And new around the corner Shooter animation'd be ready when normally it is too slow, because when you shoot and you do not hit so you do not have time to dodge when the enemy has time to shoot. And the soldier could explode when a shell strikes it. And even that is not bad if you'd drive a tank a bag of sand off it will not go away. And when the soldier next to hit the grenade when it is in the country, so it does not fly so foolishly kuinnormaalissa mow. I got more if you want to hear.

Laaninen97

And a new Panzefaust animation please

Edited by: Hauptsturmführer

I do have a new panzerfaust / rocket launcher firing animation, aswell as backblast effects if that is what your after

Sturm.

Dear Heer_Sturmfuhrer.
1. Will the totaler kreig mod included battlefield ambience?
2. Will the mod include weather conditions, like Ice, Snow, Heat Haze , Dust?

I just saw a lot of the best wehrmacht footage and noticed how Weather and Ambience makes the game extremely realistic.

Battlefield Ambience? Like battle noises in the backround?
If thats what you mean you can add them in the editor quite easily so it really depends on the map and what heer wants to do.
But I am going to assume that is namely up to the mapper.

Could easily be proven wrong at anypoint though.

Dear Jimopl.

Yes battlefield Ambience. WW2 Fronts were massive, their were echos heard from hundreds of miles away. Here is some good ambience.

Yes, ontop of which, added in-game ambient sounds such as wind, rain, birds chirping, reduce the total number of small arms and explosions sounds available to be played. So if you have 5 ambient sound files on the map, continuously playing, that 5 less possible explosion sounds you can have playing simultaneously.

Hence why I have reduced the ambient sound files pre-placed on the battlefield.

Sturm.

Dear. DerGrune Teufel.
You mentioned that you can add sound files while making a map. Does that mean that the Totaler Kreig mod will have the option of map editor?
When you say reverb sounds will sound different at different echoes away? Ex. A MG42 sounding different at say a mile away versus 100 yards away?

Dear. Heer_Sturmfuhrer
Can the sounds of the Birds, rain and wind just be taken out all together? The reason I ask is I don't think your going to hear birds when a full scale skirmish/battle is going on.

Air Power Role.

Yes I was wondering if Airplanes would play a better part in the battles. Ex. Dogfights/bombing and straffing runs? And if its possible for airplanes to be allowed to fly higher and at faster speeds?

Forgottenhope.warumdarum.de can you make maxim go like this?

Already implemented using SKR's new weapon emplacement models.

Sturm.

I'd love to see ragdolls when soldiers dies, but I think this is a very hard part to implement isn't it?

In my opinion with ragdolls this game would reach the top, so is it possible?

i think its impossible.