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May 18 2012 Anchor

I'm sure this sentiment is commonly shared by many stalkers, the lack of revolvers in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. universe.

Since L.U.R.K. has never shied away from introducing new weapons to the fold i feel that a modest handful of revolvers wouldn't hurt.

The standard fare .357 and .44 using ones like a Colt Python or the already available GP-100 via gosuke and polished by the Misery team would be fairly easy to implement but my personal favorite would be the addition of the Nagant revolver and its specific caliber, a weapon that should be available early on as a cheap and classy sidearm for the discerning hobo on the go.

A .32 like the one from Fallout 3 would also make a good starter weapon that you could buy from Sidorovich or receive as a reward from some of the early missions but it might be difficult to pull off the top break animation.

Jul 24 2012 Anchor

like that.

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Oct 3 2012 Anchor

Would love starting off with a Nagant Revolver, such class compared to a TT, Makarov or a 'Normal' Revolver. also, a Silencer would be nice addition to them, making them a very early Silence-able Sidearm.

But i could foresee problems with the almost non-existent stopping power of them, Horrible reload times and poor Accuracy xD

Oct 15 2012 Anchor

>problems with the almost non-existent stopping power of them, Horrible reload times and poor Accuracy

Well that's my point, revolvers are outdated weapons ( and the Nagant is not only outdated but ancient ) so it only makes sense that you would have early access to these shitty weapons; they would give you a taste of what it's like to be thrown into the Zone with nothing but a barely functioning hunk of metal to defend yourself with and they're perfect for roleplaying as a poor fuck rookie with nothing but a raincoat to his name.

Nov 21 2012 Anchor

... Did you guys even... slightly consider the physics to why a revolver would outclass a semi-automatic? At all?
The entire CONCEPT the MATEBA was designed on?

... yeah...

Jan 6 2013 Anchor

>problems with the almost non-existent stopping power of them, Horrible reload times and poor Accuracy

No. Just... No. Revolvers are by design more accurate than a semi-automatic, more rugged, and you can have higher grain loads in them, hence more stopping power. The reloading aspect can be solved by speed loaders.

Feb 18 2013 Anchor

Agitone wrote: >problems with the almost non-existent stopping power of them, Horrible reload times and poor Accuracy

No. Just... No. Revolvers are by design more accurate than a semi-automatic, more rugged, and you can have higher grain loads in them, hence more stopping power. The reloading aspect can be solved by speed loaders.


Actually, the main advantage most revolvers have is that they tend to use larger calibers, not a higher grain load, a revolver and an automatic of the same caliber can both use the same grain bullet and loads (some autos cannot use over-pressured rounds though, which may be what you mean)

When it comes to ruggedness, modern semi-automatics such as the various Glock models are just as reliable (seriously field strip a Glock, the things have nothing in them to be fucked up). For the most part, no matter what gun you have will shoot when you need it to if you clean it and maintain it, some just require less than others.

The accuracy claim is false, given that the round is fired in the cylinder, which has to line up properly with the barrel, as opposed to an auto, which has the round fired directly inside the barrel. In a really good revolver, this is hardly a problem, but something brought to the zone won't be all that great.

And speed loaders will never be as fast as a mag change. With a mag change you press the mag release, strip the magazine, put in a new one, and rack the slide back/drop the slide; with a speed-loader you have to open the cylinder, drop the rounds out, put the loader in, twist it to drop the new rounds in (a half/full moon clip skips this step), and close the cylinder.

There is a reason that police/military don't use them anymore (aside from capacity).

Mar 9 2013 Anchor

Since a lot of police and military forces use the M1911, I don't think capacity was a reason for switching to semi autos.

Apr 26 2013 Anchor

Agitone wrote: >problems with the almost non-existent stopping power of them, Horrible reload times and poor Accuracy

No. Just... No. Revolvers are by design more accurate than a semi-automatic, more rugged, and you can have higher grain loads in them, hence more stopping power. The reloading aspect can be solved by speed loaders.


I was talking about the Nagant Revolver, one that is Very underpowered for what it is, being made for Officers back when officers wernt targets in War

May 4 2013 Anchor

The thing that really drove me up a wall with some mods was the insanely immmersion-breaking presence of nonsensical shit like an AK-47 straight out of a comic book, or MP-40s and fucking micro uzis. The likely repertoire you should run into the zone ( at least at first ) should be "Nagans", Tokarevs, over and under shotguns and some tacticooled Saigas ( that seriously need a nerf, use the semi-auto shotgun from GTA IV as an example ), SKSs, moist nuggets, an infinite supply of Makarovs and so on. 1.05 and 1.1 follow along these lines but seriously, AK-47's are full retard out of place and should actually be rare and likely tacticooled.

May 5 2013 Anchor

Stirn wrote: The thing that really drove me up a wall with some mods was the insanely immmersion-breaking presence of nonsensical shit like an AK-47 straight out of a comic book, or MP-40s and fucking micro uzis. The likely repertoire you should run into the zone ( at least at first ) should be "Nagans", Tokarevs, over and under shotguns and some tacticooled Saigas ( that seriously need a nerf, use the semi-auto shotgun from GTA IV as an example ), SKSs, moist nuggets, an infinite supply of Makarovs and so on. 1.05 and 1.1 follow along these lines but seriously, AK-47's are full retard out of place and should actually be rare and likely tacticooled.


Some of what you say is True, in the Zone I image you would likely see allot of the 74 Series Ak's (Ak74, AkS74, Aksu's) due to Corruption in the Army guarding the zone, as well as possibly older Ak's such as the AkM, and a small number of Ak47's inside the Zone, smuggled by Army from Military reserves and sold for the pockets of the officers. Saiga's would be pretty rare due to not having any Military servace in either Russia, Or Ukraine. Makarov's would be everywhere, and TT33's would likely also be floating around with the Odd Nagant Revolver. SkS Rifle would also be floating around, but I am not sure on Ukraines Weapon Storage Policys and how often they Dispose of Old Firearms and their Stocks of Soviet Era Firearms.

So, in Short:
Makarovs : Everywhere, due to Large ammount of Military servace, cheap cost
TT33's : here and There, Military Servace Ended along time ago
Nagant : Same as TT, pretty un-common these days
Mosin : Same as Nagant, pretty un-common for the Normal Person to have, and the military wont have massive stocks anymore
SkS : Short lived Military life, Military wouldnt have stocks, so would be floating around here and there
Ak47 : Rare, Short production, Wont be in Military Stockpiles
AkM : Commonish, Will likely be in Military Stockpiles
Ak74 : Common, Military Stockpiles

Other Forign weapons would likely to find their place as well, being imported en-bulk by In-Zone Traders with Connections and Military Officers looking to make some money, but wouldnt be on the Scale of Military Stocked weapons

Jun 23 2013 Anchor

Uh, Mosins, Nagants, and Tokarevs are EVERYWHERE around here. In the Ukraine, Mosins and other out of service are about it for rifles, aside from saigas. Shotguns are much easier to get a hold of.

Jun 24 2013 Anchor

CaffieneIsMagic wrote: Uh, Mosins, Nagants, and Tokarevs are EVERYWHERE around here. In the Ukraine, Mosins and other out of service are about it for rifles, aside from saigas. Shotguns are much easier to get a hold of.


Would of guessed as much, I think the only real way Auto's would get into the Zone is though the Corruption that seams to be ever present in the STALKER World... I remeber reading the same kinda thing happened in the Soviet-Afghan war where High up officers sold off A fair bit of weaponry for their own pockets

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