Going to be updating this more soon so we can nail down the looks for all the units and start importing custom models, if either of ya'll are willing to help with that please let me know
Waiting to hear back for permission but here are a list of mods we could import unit models from, Broken Crescent/Italian Wars/One ruler one earth/Asian Empires/De Bello Mundi
///Afghan
*?What dyes were most/least expensive in medieval Afghanistan?
=Afghan Light Cav
Totalwar.honga.net
=Afghan Medium Cav
Honga.net
Honga.net
=Afghan Heavy Cav
Honga.net
Honga.net
Honga.net
Honga.net
=Afghan Light Swordsmen
Honga.net
=Afghan Medium Swordsmen
=Afghan Spearmen
=Afghan Heavy Spearmen, ??remove bc wouldnt heavies fight on horse not foot??
Honga.net
=Afghan Heavy Axemen
Honga.net
=Baluchi Cavalry
=Khokhar Cavalry
=Ghokhar Cavalry
=Rohilla Cavalry
=Sindh Cavalry
=Yusufazi Cavalry
//African Units
Habshi
Bantu Slaves
Ethiopian Traders/Mercs
//Central Asian
=Mongol Horse Archer
=Heavy Mongol Horse Archer
=Tajik
=Tartar
=Uzbek
//Eastern Units
=Assam Swordsmen
=Ahom Paik Battalion
=Manipuri Cavalry
=Burmese Javelin Cavalry
=Ronin
=Ronin Cavalry
//European
-Swiss Archers
-German Musketmen
-Goan Longbowmen: En.wikipedia.org
-Pikemen
-Grenadiers
-Marines, late game unit
-Elite Sharpshooters
-Swordsmen
-Arquebusiers
-Pavise Crossbowmen
-Mounted Crossbowmen
//Western Units
=Arab Cavalry and Musketmen
=Iranian/Persian Lancers
Pinterest.com
Upgraded Armour: I.pinimg.com
=Khorasan Cataphracts
=Moorish Javelinmen
=Qizilbash Archer Cavalry
//Northern Units
*?What dyes were most/least expensive in medieval Nepal/Tibet?
=Dzong Musketmen and Swordsmen
=Gorkhas
=Tibetain Heavy Cavalry
=Tibetain Sharpshooters
Upload.wikimedia.org
//Turks
=Ghulam Medium Cavalry
Honga.net
=Mercenary Turkish Horse Archers
=Mercenary Turkish Gunners
=Mercenary Turkish Cannon Crew
///Indians
*?What dyes were most/least expensive in medieval India?
=Indian Spearmen
=Indian Archers
=Indian Elite Archers
=Indian Elite Javelinmen
=Indian Elite Spearmen
Honga.net
=Indian Elite Swordsmen
=Indian Big Sheild Swordsmen
-https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Dutchbisnagar1667.jpg
=Indian Musketmen
Columbia.edu
=Indian Tribal Spearmen/Club-Axemen/Swordsmen
En.wikipedia.org
=Indian Tribal Archers, Kamrup/Koch Bihar Archers/Bhil/Koli/Chenchu/Koya/Telega/Gondi/Kurichiya/Berad/Karnataki Sharpshooters
En.wikipedia.org
//Paik Levy Spearmen
//Generic Indian Units, Swordsmen/Spearmen
=Indian Light Cavalry
Honga.net
=Ahir Cavalry
=Badaga Swordsmen
Upload.wikimedia.org
=Baheliya Musketmen
En.wikipedia.org
=Bengali Musketmen
Sarmaya.in
=Goan Longbowmen
C8.alamy.com
=Gujaratti Spearmen
En.wikipedia.org
Honga.net
=Gujjars
=Jat Spearmen, edit these to have round shields?
Honga.net
=Koli
Drouotstatic.zonesecure.org
=Konkan naffutan throwers
=Mapilla Swordsmen and Musketmen, below but cloth or chain chest armour
En.wikipedia.org
=Mavale Footmen
=Mewat Raider Cavalry
=Naga Sadhu Spear Infantry
=Nair Swordsmen/Spearmen/Musketmen/Javelinmen/Archers/Cavalry
En.wikipedia.org
En.wikipedia.org
=Nayaka Cavalry
Upload.wikimedia.org
=Maratha Cavalry
Upload.wikimedia.org
Honga.net
=Pindari
=Poligars
=Sepoy Spearmen
Laits.utexas.edu
=Sultan's Swordsmen, Bengali Infantry Bodyguard
I0.wp.com
=Tomara Medium Cavalry
//Purbiya
//Rajput
=Heavy Rajput Armour
Pinterest.com
=Bundela Rajputs
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-Should there be a common color for the more generic Afghan units?
-Were there colors that only nobles used in India?
-Faction Colors
-Ahmednagar, Flag is White Background with a Dark Green Triangle, So white and green for the unit colors perhaps?
-Arguin, Flag is unknown?-they came from the Chagatai? so maybe just a modified version of that, White Background with a Yellow Square, so unit colors are white and yellow?
-Berar, Flag? Colors?
-Bengal Sultanate, White and Red?
-Bijapur, Flag? Colors?
-Delhi, Dark Green and Black
-Golconda, Flag is almost turquise in color, so turquise for units as well?
-Gujarat, flag is Red background with white crescent and star, so red and white?
-Mughals, Green and Yellow
-Marwar, Orange and Green?-or should that be for Marwar
-Malwa Sultanate, Flag is Red and White Bars, so red and white?
-Mewar, Orange and Red
-Mrauk-U, Flag/Colors?
-Orrisa, Colors?
-Tranvacore/Venad, Colors ?
-Vijayangara, Dark Yellow and Red?
-Zamourin, Flag/Colors?
////UNIT ROSTERS
//Generic Indian Units, Light Cavalry, Light Jav Cav, Light Archer Cav
//Rohilla Cavalry
//Some kind of elite medium or light lancer, maybe Arabian lancers or something. Deli cavalry from tsardoms mod. Media.moddb.com
//Afghan Light Cavalry: Totalwar.honga.net
//Afghan Heavy Cavalry:Honga.net
//Afghan Medium Cavalry: Honga.net
//Mercenary Turkish Horse Archers
//Mercenary Turkish Gunners
//Mercenary Turkish Cannon Crew
//Tribal Spearmen and Axemen and Swordsmen
//Paik Levy Spearmen
//Generic Indian Units, Swordsmen/Spearmen
//Elite Indian Spearmen: Honga.net
//Light Afghan Swordsmen: Honga.net
//Heavy Afghan spearmen: Honga.net
//Heavy Afghan Axemen: Honga.net
//Generic Indian Units, Indian Archers/Javelinmen/Swordsmen/Spearmen/Musketmen
//Paik Levy Archers and Javelinmen, late game Paik Musketmen
//Generic Heavy Archer Cavalry, Noker cavalry from Tsardoms mod. remove face coverings. Media.moddb.com
//Indian Musketmen: Columbia.edu
//South Indian Swordsmen: Upload.wikimedia.org
//African Mercenaries, Naked Tribal looking or Clothed?
=KINGDOM OF MRAUK U
-Ronin Samurai Bodyguard
-Pirates
=Arguins of Kandahar/Sindh/Multan
//Sikh Musketmen: I.pinimg.com
//Late Sikh or Punjab Musketmen: I.pinimg.com
=BENGAL SULTANATE
Medium Cavalry
//Bengali nobles, Good but rare Archer Cavalry, Red Turban
//Zamindar Cavalry, Horsemen Raised by Feudal Hindu Landowners, Red Turban
//Taluqdar Cavalry, Horsemen Raised by Feudal Muslim Landowners, Red Turban
Light Cavalry
//Bengali Light Lancers, Red Turban
//Bengali mounted archers, Red Turban
Melee Units
//Sultan’s Guard, Very rare but elite unarmoured swordsmen,, Red Turban and sash
//Assam Swordsmen, lightly armoured two handed swordsmen
//Bengali Spearmen, Red Turban
//Paik Levy Spearmen
//Mercenary Afghan Swordsmen and Spearmen
Missile Units
//Sultan’s Guard (Archers), Very rare but elite unarmoured archers, Red Turban and Sash
//Bengal Rocket Troops, Afghan ban firing rocket men, Best rocket troops available
//Nafta Throwers, naptha grenades
//Bengali Musketeers, Red Turban
//Bengali sharpshooters, Red Turban
//Light Bengali Archers, Red Turban
//Kamrup Archers, Generic Shirtless Indian Tribal Unit? Some Red or Orange
//Koch-Bihar Archers, Generic Shirtless Indian Tribal Unit? Some Red or Orange
Siege Units
//Ballista
//Catapult
//Trebuchet
//Rocket Rack, 9 barrel Ban (Fire Arrows) Launcher
//Early Indian Cannon, stone shot, non-explosive
//Later Indian Cannon, iron shot, explosive shells
//Bombard
//Grand Bombard
//Monster Bombard
//Basilisk
//Light Cannons/Field guns, late game
//Mortar and Howitzer, late game
=BIJAPUR
-Beydur Spearmen
-Qizilbash Heavy Horse Archers: Ghazi horse archer from AP Mod, edited for red turban/helmet rim
-Marathan Cavalry, Some Orange/Yellow
Perhaps these with edited clothing to be white, and add sleeves: Honga.net
=BERAR
=DELHI SULTANATE, Color: Green, Good cavalry, lot of slave cav
-Regional Units, Paiks/Indians
-Afghan/Indian/Bengali(Purbiya?) Units from Start
Heavy Cavalry
//Jandars (Bodyguards): 'Givers of Lives', these are the most trusted warriors of the Sultan, ready to always, as their name suggests, give their lives for the glory of the Sultan. Elite Heavy Cavalry, Disciplined and High Morale. Green and Gold
//Khas i Khail Ghulam, Elite Heavy Slave Cav, Green
//Jagirdari Sawar (Noble Cavaliers):Honga.net
Medium Cavalry
//Lodhi Tabur Sawar (Lodhi Clan Cavalry): Best Medium Melee Cavalry, these traditional Lodhi clansmen were the backbone of Lodhi takeover. Disciplined with high morale. Light Mail and Lance. Green
/Pashtun Medium Cav, Light Chainmail lancers
/Ghulam Medium Lancers: ghulam cavalry from ss6.4, Green, Honga.net
/Tomara Cavalry, Light Red and Yellow?
/Ahir Cavalry, Some Dark Red?
/Sipahi, regular medium cav
-Sipahi Lancer
-Sipahi Archer
Light Cavalry
//Turkish Slave Archer Cav
//Light Afghan Sword Cav
//Pathan Light Javelin Cav
-Talaya, Vanguard Scout Cavalry, Elite light archers used for scouting and raiding
Infantry:
//Sultan's Foot Guard, Heavy Spearmen
//Medium Afghan Spearmen
//Barha Sayyid Talwarbaz (Barha Sayyid Swordsmen): A famed Hindustani Muslim group in the Indo-Gangetic. These are crack swordsmen, taking inspiration from local Gangetic traditions of dismounted Kshatriya warfare, combining it with their great zeal and pride as descendants of the great Prophet himself. However, their great pride does make them difficult to control. High Morale and impetuous heavy infantry.
Missile Infantry
//Huigm Andazi, Master Archers
//Teerandaz (Bowmen): Good bowmen, though vulnerable in melee. These are drawn from a diverse background, a grade above spearmen (save for the Royal Foot Guard) these are well paid and motivated soldiers.
=GARHA
-Levy Gond spearmen
-Gond Archers
=GOLCONDA, Telugu Infantry
-Telugu Spearmen
-Telugu Archers
=GUJARAT SULTANATE (Sultanat i Gujarat), Color: Red
-Muslim Rajput Nobles, Habshi Slaves. Ottoman, Venetian, and Mamluk Mercenaries, as well as the standard African, Turkish, Afghan Mercenaries that are available in abundance through out India, as well as the less common Sindh/Elite Koli Archers/Persian/Arabian/Khorasan Heavy Cavalry/Tartar/Uzbek/Mongol Mercenaries
Heavy Cavalry
//Jandars (Bodyguards): 'Givers of Lives'.
//Khanzada Jagirdars (Khanzada Noble Cavalry):Honga.net
//Khurasani Askari (Khurasan Heavy Cavalry):Honga.net
Medium Cavalry
//Sipahi Chainmail Lancers, These men are the backbone of the Gujarati Army.
//Samanta Ashwaka (Local Feudal Cavalry): Well armed and equipped, these petty chiefs hold sway over the rural countryside of Gujarat. However, lacking in any formal training or coherent tradition, these troops lack discipline and are not the most reliable in a crisis situation. Average morale and not particularly disciplined either ('normal').
Light Cavalry
//Khanzada Baraccha Sawar (Khanzada Lancers):
//Gujjar Ashwaka (Gujjar Cavalry): Light Javelin Cavalry:Honga.net
//Ekanda Ashwaka (Levy Cavalry):Gujarati Auxiliary Cavalry, light lancers
Infantry
//Habshi Ghulam Paik (Abyssinian Slave Infantry): chainmail swordsmen
//Khanzada Jagirdari Paik (Dismounted Nobles): In times of great distress, when retreat is no longer an option, nobles often dismount and ready themselves for a desperate stand. Good Heavy Infantry with High Morale, though Impetuous.A lesser version of the Rajput Saka Yodha and Barha Sayid Talwarbaz
//Talwarbaz (Swordsmen):chainmail swordsmen
//Tirandaz (Archers): Though on foot and deprived of the glory of hand to hand combat, these are nonetheless important component of any army. Average morale and normal mentality.
//Arabi Bandooqbaz (Arab Musketeers): Maybe this is suitable? Upload.wikimedia.org
//Gujarati Spearmen: En.wikipedia.org
=ZAMOURIN OF CALLICUT (KOZHIKODE)
Heavy Cavalry
//Native Elephants
Medium Cavalry
//Mercenary Medium Afghan Cavalry and Musket Cavalry, very rare
Light Cavalry
//Nair Cavalry, Good light cavalry riding expensive imported Arabian horses, javelin thrown on charge
//Generic Indian Units, Light Cavalry, Light Jav Cav, Light Archer Cav, very low replenishment rate due to the Malabar coast being unsuited to cavalry
Heavy Infantry
...
Medium Infantry
//Rare Ottoman Janissary Halberdiers
Light Infantry
//Nairs: En.wikipedia.org
Missile Infantry
//Nafta Throwers
//Kurichiya Archers, Elite light tribal archers, good at ambushing
//Mapilla Muslim Musketmen: En.wikipedia.org
//Karnataki Sharpshooters, Generic Shirtless Indian Tribal Unit?
Siege Units
//Traditional Siege Weapons, Ballista/Catapult/Trebuchet were very uncommon
//Fire Arrow Launchers, The Zamourin fielded expert rocket users
Navy
//Ottoman Galley, The Zamourin was graced with Venetian and Ottoman naval help
//Muslim Trading Ships, low upkeep ships crewed by Muslim Mapilla and Marakkar sailors eager to protect their trade lanes
=MALWA SULTANATE
-Well balanced mixture of Pashtun, Hindustani Muslim, Rajputana, Purabhiya and Gond units
-Cavalry is mostly imported from either foreign lands or Rajputana, Gujarat and Deccan
-Elephants are available in eastern Malwa bordering the forested areas of Gond.
Heavy Cavalry
//Sultani Hathi Dusta (Royal Elephant Guard): Ample wealth and forest cover, especially in the eastern portion, means that the Sultans Malwa can afford to ride on the magnificent elephants into battle. Richly caparisoned and armored, these juggernauts are impressive to behold, yet very expensive.
//Hathi Dusta (Elephant Troop): Easy access to elephants and better handlers give Malwa an edge of over their rivals in Delhi, Rajputana, Gujarat and the Deccani Sultanate. Though inferior to the ones used by Gondwana, Gajapatis and the Bengal Sultanates.
//Jagirdari Sowar (Noble Cavalry): Honga.net
-? What should the aesthetic difference between Jagir and Khanzanda Jagir be?
//Rajput Sardar Sowar (Rajput Chiefs): Honga.net
Medium Cavalry
//Afghan Medium Cav
//Purabhiya Sowar (Eastern Rajput Cavalry):
- Light chainmail Lancers/Good Discipline/Average Morale
//Sipahi (Regular Cavalry); Local Medium Cav
Light Cavalry
//Mercenary Turkish Horse Archers
//Generic Indian Units, Light Cavalry, Light Jav Cav, Light Archer Cav
//Pathan Sawar (Pathan Javelin Cavalry):Light Jav Cav, Undisciplined and average morale
//Pashtun Light Cavalry
//Khanzada Baraccha Sawar (Rajput Khanzada Lancers): Just as not all Rajputs were wealthy cavaliers, their Muslim brethren, too had their less affluent lot. However, many of these men soon embarked upon a martial career, as dashing riders adept at making quick attacks and catching enemy by surprise. These lancers soon became a famous cavalry 'caste' renowned cavaliers, excellently mounted on their equally famous native Kathiawari horses. Good Morale and Disciplined. //Excellent charge, though average in melee. Best to avoid prolonged melee, and engage in cycle charges or flank and rear charge.
Heavy Infantry
...
Medium Infantry
//Pashtun Medium Spearmen and Swordsmen
//Purbiya Spearmen
//Purbiya Talwarbaz
//Pathan Talwarbaz (Pathan Swordsmen): These stalwart infantrymen, armored in mail and wielding the iconic talwar. They combine the rugged hardiness of their Afghan heritage with the renowned swordsmanship of Hindustan. Heavy Infantry with great stamina and speed, second only to the Rajput Saka Yodha, however more disciplined.
//Purabhiya Paik (Eastern Rajput Infantry): The old fashioned Kshatriyas who still excel as elite infantrymen, these men of the east, follow the ancient style of fighting dismounted, armed with spear and shield. They are disciplined and have great stamina, though they don lighter armor compared to their western cousins of the Rajputana. //Excellent Medium Spearmen, good counter to cavalry.
Light Infantry
//Jat Spearmen, Edit these to have round shields?: Honga.net
//Gramin Paika (Rural Militia): Conscripted to serve as fodder, these are little better than camp followers and at worst are impediments.
Missile Infantry
//Tirandaz (Archers): Though on foot and deprived of the glory of hand to hand combat, these are nonetheless important component of any army. Average morale and normal mentality.
//Purbiya Musketmen
//Generic Indian Units. Indian Archers,Javelinmen,Swordsmen, Spearmen, Musketmen,Sharpshooters, Rocket Troops
//Paik Levy Archers and Javelinmen, late game Paik Musketmen
//Tribal Units, Archers and Javelinmen
//Siege Units
//Navy
=MEWAR AND MARWAR, Colors: Red/Orange/Yellow
-Rathore Rajput Cavalry, high morale
-Rajput Camel Musketmen, late game unit: Pbs.twimg.com
-Rajput Musketeers, late game unit
-Elite Rajput Musketeers, present at siege of Chittor
-Rajput Heavy Naffutan Throwers, source?
Heavy Cavalry, Color difference between Clans?
//Sisodiya Rajashwaka (Sisodiya Royal Cavalry): Honga.net
//Hada Rajput Heavy Lancers, Vassal Cavalry: Honga.net
//Rathore Rajput Mandalik (Merta Rajput Vassal): Honga.net
//Generic Royal Rajput Cavalry: Honga.net
///////Mewar Samanta Ashwaka (Mewar Vassal Cavalry): Recruited from the premier houses of Maharana's own districts. These men and their retinue, along with the Rana's Sissodiya retinue, have the honor of representing the ancient fiefs of Kumbhalgarh and Chittorgarh.
///////Kachchwaha Rajput Mandalik (Kachchwaha Rajput Vassals) Good Morale and impetuous Heavy Lance Cavalry.
Medium Cavalry
\\Rajput Samanta Ashwaka (Local Vassals): Lesser Rajput Houses often join in to support their more illustrious relations as means to raise their own standing by great deeds on the field of battle. Though some times they are too eager for their own good. Good Morale but Impetuous, Mail armored medium lance cavalry. //These will match the Afghan Elite Medium Cavalry in stats, but will lack their discipline//
//Rajput Dhanudhari Ashwaka (Rajput Horse Archers): The Rajputs preferred fighting up close, yet they had great proficiency over weapon of 'Arjuna'. These mailed medium horse archers, are versatile units, excelling both at archery and melee. Good morale, however are impetuous, thus lessening their utility as horse archers.
//Bhumiyar Samanta (Non Rajput Nobles): While not Rajputs, these are High Caste nobles still who have been granted land by the Maharana. And so they are duty bound to provide armed support. These mailed medium lancer cavalrymen look to imitate their Rajput counterparts. Average Morale, though disciplined.
//Purbiya Cavalry
Light Cavalry
//Gujjar Barachha Ashwaka (Gujjar Cavalry):Light Jav Cav, Average Morale
//Ekanda Ashwaka (Levy Cavalry): Not belonging to any group or tradition, or simply too poor to have any equipment. These men come alone (ekka) and are given rudimentary equipment by the State muster. Many are willing to prove themselves for more opportunity, but most lack the training or the means to do so. Average Morale, poor discipline, with just a lance, and no armor.
Heavy Infantry
//Rajput Saka Yodha (Rajput Ritual Warrior): this one? Pbs.twimg.com
Medium Infantry
//Purabhiya Paika (Eastern Infantry):
//Purbiya Medium Swordsmen
//Purbiya Talwarbaz, chainmail swordsmen
Light Infantry
//Jaat Bhala Paika (Jaat Spearmen): modestly armored, wearing only quilted cotton or leather
Missile Units
//Heavy Rajput Naffta Throwers
//Rajput Musketeers
//Rajput Elite Musketmen
//Purbiya Musketmen
//Bhil Tribal Archers: Google.com
=MUGHALS
//Mughal Cavalry, Possible units
//Heavy Mughal Archer Cavalry, Noker cavalry from Tsardoms mod. remove face coverings. Media.moddb.com
//Mughal Elephants
//Heavy Cav
//Early Mughal Cav
//Mughal Musketmen
//Siege
-Zarb-Zan, 4-6 pounder light cannon
-Kazan, 30-50 pound heavy cannon
-Kazan-I-Bozorg, up 100 pounds or more: Upload.wikimedia.org
-Firingi, swivel/antipersonel guns
-Deg, Mortar
-Rocket Rack, 9 barrel fire arrow launcher
-Monster Rocket Launcher, massive multi-barreled fire arrow launcher
-Elephant Artillery, light cannons mounted on deafened elephants
//Local Mercenaries
-Purbiya Musketmen, North Central Indian, good musketmen/melee
-Rohilla Riflemen, late game mercenary
-Charkh Crossbowmen, Afghan crossbow mercs
Unit Roster
Heavy Cavalry
//Ahadis: Elite Lancer Cavalry assigned to proctect the Emperor himself. Excellent Discipline and High Morale.
Medium Cavalry
//Keshik (Early Mughal Bodyguard): Originally assigned as Guards of Mongol Khans and their important Generals, this institution developed as Princely Household Retinues for Turco Mongol Warlords. The Mughals are no different. Well armored in mail, these superb horsemen excel both as archers and melee fighters, a perfect unit for guarding the Commander. Excellent Discipline and High Morale.
//Mughalia Qurchi (Mughal Medium Cavalry): Excellent medium mail armored horse archer, and more than competent in melee as well. These are backbone of the Mughal army, versatile units that are equally home at skirmishing or charging a weakened foe. High Morale and discipline.
//Mughali Sipahi (Mughal Medium Lance Cavalry): Average medium mail armored lance cavalry. Used mainly to compliment the Horse Archers. Average Melee, though good charge. Good Discipline and Morale
Light Cavalry
//Qazzaki (Traditional Mongol Horse Archer): Light Cavalry and Horse Archer par excellence, these hardy cavalrymen have dominated warfare since the days of Chingis Khan, and even with modern inventions, they are still one of the most dangerous units, subjecting the enemy to a hail of arrows while riding rings round them. High Morale and Excellent Discipline.
//Baluch Sowar (Balichi Lancers): Superb Light lancers, bonus in deserts
//Pashtun Sowar (Pashtun Light Cavalry):. Light Lancer with good morale and discipline, bonus in deserts
//Tajik Sowar (Tajik Javelin Cavalry): Valuable mounted skirmishers, decent in melee. Good Morale and Discipline.
Infantry: The Mughals generally had a low emphasis on Infantry
//Mughalia Teerandaz (Mughal Archers): Excellent and well trained archers, good morale and disciplined.
//Mughali Shamsherbaz (Mughal Medium Sowrdsman): Expert Swordsman, well armored in medium mail. Best used to protect the ranged units. Vulnerable to heavy charges though. Good Morale and Discipline.
//Pashtun Qabail Lashkar (Pashtun Tribal Regiment): Superb javelin-men and expert ambushers.Good Discipline and Morale.
//Chelas: Loyal Hindu Slave Spearmen
//Conscripted Spearmen, All males 15-40 must serve under Akbars
//Barha Sayyid Talwarbaz (Barha Sayyid Swordsmen): A famed Hindustani Muslim group in the Indo-Gangetic. These are crack swordsmen, taking inspiration from local Gangetic traditions of dismounted Kshatriya warfare, combining it with their great zeal and pride as descendants of the great Prophet himself. However, their great pride does make them difficult to control. High Morale and impetuous heavy infantry
//Mughal Rocket Troops
=MYSORE
-Nayaks
-Rocket Rack
-Rocket Troops
-Rocket Launcher
-Rocket Launcher with Heavy Guard
=ORISSA
//Elite Orissan Medium Spearmen (Dandasena Paika), excellent spearmen used as frontier guards
//Orissan Heavy Spearmen (Aguanithata Paika)
//Orissan Clubmen (Pradhanavala Paika), mace weilding chainmail soldiers, forming the core of Orissa infantry
//Vanguard Archers (Hantakarudala), excellent archers armed with axes, extra bonus in forests
//Orissan Light Cavalry, low level cavalry on native indian ponies
=PORTUGAL
-Gujarat Lascarin Spearmen: En.wikipedia.org
-Swiss Archers
-German Musketmen
-Goan Longbowmen: En.wikipedia.org
-Pikemen
-Grenadiers
-Marines, late game unit
-Elite Sharpshooters
-Swordsmen
-Arquebusiers
-Pavise Crossbowmen
-Mounted Crossbowmen
=VIJAYANAGARAN EMPIRE
-Moorish Javelinmen, only recruitable from Moorish quarter of Capital
-First Musket Regiment, early musketmen for Vijaya
-Royal Guard Archers, elite archers with axes
//Nayak Cavalry, elite and regular
These units with more color added? :Honga.net
//Vanguard Archer Cavalry,
//Badaga Swordsmen: En.wikipedia.org
//Berad Musketmen and Archers, Generic Indian Tribal Appearance?
//Arab Lancers: Honga.net
=Mercenaries
-Sindh Archers: En.wikipedia.org
-Tibetain Heavy Lancers
-Tibetain Marksmen
-Dzong Guard Infantry
-Shri Lankan Sharpshooters
-Assam Swordsmen
-Kamrup Archers
-Dzong Guard Infantry
For the Sikhs....I found out that the infantry units from rebels faction and rhuns faction from third Age look bearded and wear turbans similar somewhat
Here have a look
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I dunno if they have similar cavalry units tho....might want to open and see the mod
Also many units from broken crescent are heavily bearded....I guess we can use them too
Look at these units from third age
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I know some of them don't have pagdis but it's the closest we'll ever have
See these ....some more sikhish types
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Try this
Twcenter.net
Awesome! Thanks for sharing, too bad it’s dead, it looks pretty epic
huzurat
......whoa dude!!! that thread has everything we need man....the models are so cool and well done.....thanks a lot IGdood.....thanks for bringing this to our notice
KingKorgoth
...please have a look at this thread...it has all the models we need
scroll down to the mughal marathan and mysorean units in the first page of the thread to have a look
Nice! Some of those look pretty good, I download it and go through it after I clear some hard drive space
Whoa!! even the mughal musketeers are accurate....they seem to be carrying a protective mantlet like the one at panipat....the musket units are a breath of fresh air and there's some variety,there are heavy gunners also......the mughal infantry and cavalry units are very similar to the ones from miniature paintings that i've seen......this is amazing!!.....even the elephant units are well done....now we need not use those overgrown timurid elephants that look totally out of place......the variety and artwork here is stunning....i never knew someone even cared to do something like this for an asian campaign.....how did something like this never materialise??
So the 8gb file had more content.....and it can't be unlocked???......what a shame.....is there no way to actually unlock it??.....there must be some way......were all the units in the images shown on thread available in the 0.8 version huzurat??
huzurat KingKorgoth
.....guys regarding discussion about the time period for the second campaign....this is just my opinion.....I understand playing the Marathas is the catch about wanting to leave a gap between 1619 and 1645....but there was a valid reason I suggested against it before as well
...its very simple....what I'm trying to convey here is that doing 1645-1745 means we have to deal with a whole variety of complexities that arise from the having to stick with the historicity of this period
The first problem here is starting with 1645 means the campaign ends in 1745 right??....in that case this period covers the age of lazy and merrymaking emperors i.e jalandar Shah,farrukisiyar and Muhammad Shah Rangeela.....the catch here is that all the important viceroys of the last powerful emperor Bahadur Shah Muazzam break away from the mughal empire and found their own independent states(even though on paper they still call themselves the viceroys of the emperor) and become Nawabs and nizam around the time Muhammad Shah comes to the throne in 1719.....the emperor's central hold weakened in the second decade of the 1700s,the sayyid brothers became major powerbrokers in the mughal court and the viceroys broke away and emperor became a puppet.....
So by script somehow we will have to simulate a disintegration in 1719 and what's worse create 3 additional factions
1)Nawabs of Oudh/Awadh
2)Nawabs of Bengal
3)Nizams of Hyderabad/Deccan
So creating 3 more factions,researching their symbolism,flags and then their roster is going to be a pain
The second problem here is....since this time period covers Nader Shah's invasion in 1738,our mod will also have to feature "Afsharid Empire" as an additional faction.....some more extra work.....plus to stay true to history before Nader Shah's rise to power in 1736,we have to also create the preceeding "Safavid Empire" also as a faction...both these factions held Kandahar and other outposts on the frontier,while Afsharids under Nader held as far as Kabul and for a brief time before restoring the territories to the Mughals, also conquered all the provinces till Delhi
Plus the third problem here is the said time period would feature Shivaji's rise to power as well as the peshwaite chapter of maratha history......the problem here is that Shivaji's kingdom even at the peak it's powers in 1680(when Shivaji died) didn't exceed a few hundred miles in breadth and length,while it grew to imperialistic proportions under peshwas during the early decades of the 1700s i.e somewhere around 1720s.....it will be a problem trying to implement both monarchy and puppet monarchy system for the same faction in the same mod.....
What I'm trying to say is that if at all it's worth going through all this pain,why not do it by choosing a certain time period wherein all the aforementioned successor factions start afresh.....like say start from 1721-1821 or 1736-1836 or 1761-1861(including 1857)...that way we cover all the chapters of nawab nizam & maratha dominance as well as colonial history
....instead keep the second campaign as it is from 1619-1719...not much changes in this campaign compared to the first campaign except for maybe sikhs and the British(but then the British are not that dominant enough to be a faction at all in this period of mughal dominance....so we can even ignore the British faction)
What do u say guys ????
Very well thought out! I'm in partial agreeance, A question though, if the main focus would be the expansion of Mughals further south (as this shows, Youtu.be) then why not just keep it as part of this mod and just add later scripted events/characters? (like Akbar, Jahangir, and Shah Jahan)
A 1600 submod would give the chance to start as a later more developed Mughal empire but it would be a lot of work to go through and update the settlements/characters for a mod that would play pretty similarly
Yeah we can make it a part of this mod and add later scripted events like u said....but what exactly do u mean by part of this mod?...are u going to decrease the turns per year ?? So we can cover 200 years??....or are u going to make a copy of the existing mod and just add later characters and scripts ?? And release it as a separate campaign....Even that would be fine...that is what I meant by nothing changes from the first campaign
No it’ll stay 2 turns a year for now so it would take 200 turns to go from 1519 to 1619, which is long but I think that’s ok since Ive read the mongols and timurids don’t show up till around 150 turns sometimes. The only emergent factions planned are suri/Mysore and the nayaks so Marathas Sikhs and brits would be added to a mid 1700s submod if I can get around to it.
Also KingKorgoth I wasn't suggesting doing 1619-1719 instead of mid 1700 campaign mod.....don't get me wrong....I was merely suggesting doing either one of them for now
KrishCN Oh, I wasn't sure if you would rather have a 1600 then 1700 mod. Of course empire total war covers the 1700s, but not very in-depth.
So would you be satisfied with the first mod, starting in 1519 and scripted events ending around 1700.
And then maybe a second mod starting around 1730-1737 and covering the marathan/british rise?
KingKorgoth
....so are u asking if I'm ok if the current mod starts in 1519 and ends in 1700??
Or somewhere around 1700 anyway, I'm pretty set on 1519 for the start though.
I just meant instead of the second campaign starting around 1600, it would start around 1730, since the 1600-1700 events would all be covered by the first campaign. Or would you rather have a 1600 start over a 1700?
You're free to use the map in any way if you wanted a campaign starting at a different time, I'd wait till I've got the terrain in a more finished state though so you don't have to do extra work
KingKorgoth
Yeah 1519-1700s odd for the present mod is fine...or till 1707(Aurangzeb's death)..or or better still 1719(this marks the end of mughal dominance and the begining of maratha power and the age of mughal successor states) is also fine
...i'd figure a 1600-1700 campaign is not worth a separate mod...it's better if we cover it in the present mod....200 years through 1519-1719 at 2 turns per year is actually decent ...should be fine??
....so let the second campaign be a mid 1700s mod like I said before....let's start the second campaign with a fresh start date for all successor states...like let it start somewhere from 1730s....or for that matter 1720-1820 is also fine,since it almost completes the chapter of british conquest of India(includes battles of Plassey1757,3rd battle of panipat1761,battle of buxar 1764,Mysore maratha wars,all 4 anglo Mysore wars and all anglo maratha wars as well as European conflicts as well....
.....we might as well ask what huzurat thinks of it too....what do u say guys do we all agree with this arrangement ??
Glad we can agree! We'll see what Huzurat thinks.
Based on that video, Youtube.com, although neglects to show the Rajputs or Garha as being independent, it looks like 1725 is the best, the Nizam of Hyderabad has just formed and if any more time passes the Marathans begin to take large parts of Mughal lands
KingKorgoth
.....while that video is historically true for most parts,not all depictions of empires are true....I had a look at it myself....like for e.g it showed the ghurids as well as ghaznavids(never actually succeeded in their invasion and most of them were plundering raids) overrunning India long before they actually did in 1192(Ghurids under ghori were the first to succeed in their invasion and it has been described as a landmark event by many Islamic chroniclers)....another mistake is that it shows mughal Conquest of Kashmir long after Akbar's death but in reality it happened during Akbar's reign.....it shows Mauryans under ashoka conquering whole of India which is wrong, actually he did rule the whole of India(except for south India), parts of Afghanistan,Pakistan and Bangladesh,but there is no credible evidence to suggest that Mauryans defeated and vassalised the south Indian moovendars(cholas,cheras and pandyas)...possible extent of ashoka's vast empire is reconstructed by historians only on the basis of the extent and distribution of ashoka's pillars and rock edicts.....so refer to some proper map,don't rely on these videos...not all are accurate
KingKorgoth
Some of my edits after going through the new mod map image.....
in 1725,the durrani empire doesn't exist yet....in 1725 Safavid Empire still reigns In Persia and northwestern frontier,in 1736 Nader Shah overthrows safavids and founds Afsharid empire...in 1747 Ahmed Shah abdali breaks away from Persia and starts ruling Afghanistan in his own name and founds the durrani empire....we might get into a big problem starting in 1725 with Safavid Empire and trying to script 2 extra emergent factions(Afsharids and durrani within a span of just 20years)
We could actually start from 1751 since there are many maps that depict faction boundaries accurately and we only need to create durranis faction..
However if the thrill to play bajirao is too much,we may keep 1725 only,it's fine
Ah I missed the Safavids, thanks. I haven't look into this time period much so I'm pretty ignorant of it, I just chose 1725 because much after that and the mughals and are a small country, I wanted the marathans and mughals to start off on more even ground. I'll think more about a possible start date though, I'll focus on the current one for now though
i think the kingdom of mysore was always present under the wodeyar dynasty. the sultanate of mysore began after the usurption of the throne by hyder ali.
I had them starting on the map so they could be playable but Huzurat suggested it should be emergent because they were vassals under Vijayanagar until declaring independence in 1565 after Talikota, but you are technically correct
would there be any way to add the 'urumi'? the warriors bearing urumi could have been used as beserker type units from rome 1. causing mass casualities in a short amount of time but i have no idea if it is possible to mod it in.
edit: Twcenter.net
this might work.
lionheartofengland It should be possible with a new animation, it would be a cool unit to include though
KingKorgoth
here are a few vids of people training with them:
and here is how they would have fought almost akin to beserker rage:
Youtube.com
it would be hard to implement but it would be an amazing unit to have - maybe one of the units restricted to the zamorin.
Twcenter.net
there might be something in here that might help.
animations tutorial i believe:
Twcenter.net