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Ideas (MSN Convo Espen-Daub) (Games : Half-Life : Mods : HL : OIFH *Cancelled* : Forum : The Bar : Ideas (MSN Convo Espen-Daub)) Locked
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Aug 26 2007 Anchor

Espen says:
Hello.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Hiya
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Ooh. DPG image ;o
*me wnats

Espen says:
Ask Urb.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Anyways - bout the shotgun.. How do you see it?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
AR grenades?
Espen says:
Not quite, but the same consept.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Whadya think bout cluster grenades.. or cluster satchel charges? ;o
Espen says:
Instead of a grenade, it would
a) Fire 40-50 shots instead of 8, killing about anything at close range, and hits a great deal of enimies if fired at range. Effective if you're overwhelmed with enemies or if you have a very strong enemy at close range.
Espen says:
or:
Espen says:
b) Fire a slug, doing massive damage.
Espen says:
personaly, I like a best
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
.. or both
Espen says:

Espen says:
What do you think?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Both sound cool to me. Spraying bullets is easy to code and would be effective, while slugs are just cool in general
Espen says:
It would be best used in a "AR2 Grenade" fashion (secondary ammo), don't you think?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Yeah, exactly
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
New ammo isn't hard to implement either
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
It's mostly copypasta with name changing anyways ;>
Espen says:

Espen says:
And Urb can do the modelwork.
Espen says:
I can do the animations.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
^^
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Btw, can you send me your changed zombie? Curious to see it and it'd make thing easier with the idle animation stuff.
Espen says:
1 momoent.
Espen sends:

Espen says:

Espen says:
Did you see the video on moddb or youtube?

Transfer of "pietzom.rar" is complete.

Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Yeah
Espen says:
Then you know this is mae of awesome and win.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
;>
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Hm. What would be the RL equivalent of the holy hand grenade?
Espen says:
A nuke?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
*pictures a one-man operated nuke launcher
*gets a warm feeling inside
Espen says:
btw did you finish the idle animation issue with the zombie?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Nope. Didn't find it anywhere in the monster-related code. It might be controlled from the model. Though I'll look into that a bit more throughoutly once I finish a few things for 6-D this week.
Espen says:
Okay, because if you load the model, you'll a heavy overuse of sleepy head punching
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Heh
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Btw, you've heard about including the ISW2000 to OIFH, right?
Espen says:
what's the ISW2000
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
The godliest rifle ever to be made
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Hold on
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
World.guns.ru
Drool away
Espen says:
*drowns in own drool*
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
It's meant to be a 2-man rifle, but.. this is oifh
Espen says:

Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Main things that make it pwn:
- "it will penetrate two walls of any modern APC at one kilometer range"
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
- It's a 2-man rifle
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
- it uses 15mm ammo
Espen says:

Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Weight 18kg.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
It'll need some -very- pwn animations
Espen says:
yeah
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Fuck. Connection died
Espen says:
ok
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Wait. You haven't heard about anhilation too?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Extra gore feature
Espen says:
show me please.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
I can only tell you..
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
You shoot an enemy with one fo the super-powered weapons.. The flesh is separated from it's skeleton and is hurled into the nearest wall leaving a shitload of blood everywhere.. The skeleton falls to the ground, breaking into loads of bloody bone pieces.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
The skeleton model will need to have a death animation..
Espen says:

Espen says:
I'd like a funny convo at the start of the game.
Espen says:
Like two scientists talking from an out of reach place.
Espen says:
Picture this:
Espen says:
1 min
Espen sends:

Transfer of "OIFH_woodchuck.txt" is complete.

Espen says:
Picture this convo at the start of the game.
Espen says:
It doesen't have to be exactly like that, but something along the lines of it.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Hahah
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Awesome ^^
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
What's our progress anyways? I have no idea what you LD/modelling/animating guys are up to.
Espen says:
I'm doing nothing.
Espen says:
I don't have any models to animate.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
skeleton.mdl
Espen says:
I have to wait until Urb finishes the visual work.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Try something custom or just use one of the default death anims
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
.. OR apply the zombie death animaton where it shrivels a bit before falling
Espen says:
yeah.
Espen says:
But i need the model first, or I can't do it.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
The default HL skeleton model
Espen says:
Urb would first have to rig it so it corresponds to the zombie skeleton.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
No. I just need an animated skeleton mdl.
Espen says:
I can animate it until Urb rigs it.
Espen says:
or you, or someone rigs it with the zombie's IK skeleton.
Espen says:
only then will the model be attached to the skeletion joints.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Ah.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Urby's PC still fucked? ;<
Espen says:
yep.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
I've always wanted to add something from worms to HL.. A holy hand grenade sounds fun, but it's gotta be changed so it doesn't look like a ripoff..
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
A nuke-launcher DOES sound juicy
Espen says:
yeah.
Espen says:
The model would have to be a HUGE cannon resting on the player's shoulder.
Espen says:
and the shot would have to throw him back several yards.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
No, that's how the ISW will work. ;>
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
The nuke launcher.. Hm. That'll have to be even more collossal
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Er..
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Well, it could be an even HUGER cannon resting on the player's shoulder ;D
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Upon exploding, radioactive sludge everywhere that damages everything
Espen says:
awesome!
Espen says:
Did you know that the HL/HL2 shotgun fires 00 ("double-ought"
) .33" (8.4mm) shells?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Nope.. ;o
Espen says:
I just found out.
Espen says:
Thanks, wikipedia!
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
^^
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
So it's settled? Primary fire - default, secondary - toggle between slug & blowing off everything you have?
Espen says:

Espen says:
How can you toggle it?
Espen says:
IDEA
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
I'll figure something out
Espen says:
It depends on what ammo you pick up!
Espen says:
If you have one amo type, you can't pick up another because you already have one type and you can't have both at the sametime.
Espen says:
En.wikipedia.org
Espen says:
But Urb has the final word on this matter.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Died again
Espen says:
?
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Connection
Espen says:
k
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
I think it'd work if secondary fire would toggle between normal/spray/slug
Espen says:
yeah.
Espen says:
it would ned a modified HUD that tells the player what's currently being used.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Nah. I'd make a message appear telling what mode is chosen. Like with the glock in CS
Espen says:
ok
Espen says:
btw
Espen says:
open up the oifh zombie in mdlviewer
Espen says:
play the animation "converse2"
Espen says:
*converse1
Espen says:
if I edited the right arm, this could be a great idle
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Uno momento
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Heh
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
.. or leave it like that with some smirks and shrugs. Like the zombified version of that animation
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Hahah
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
walk_scared pwns ^^
Espen says:
btw, if you'd like to rig the skeleton for me, I could send you the model info.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
That should be the idle random walk animation
Espen says:
yeah.
Espen says:

Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
No. I'm a complete modelling noob
Espen says:
The zombie should walk about in idle state!
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
I can code that in
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Actually - i could just change the roach code a bit.. And apply it to the zombie
Espen says:
Here's the info for the head:

Bone 21 Name: "Bip02 Head"
Bone 21 Parent: 11
Bone 21 Flags: 0
Bone 21 Bonecontroller: -1 -1 -1 0 -1 -1
Bone 21 Value: 2.428221 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.122909
Bone 21 Scale: 0.003906 0.003906 0.003906 0.000053 0.000028 0.000046
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Huh? I can't rig it for you, hell I don't even know how you do that.
Espen says:

Espen says:

Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
^ Modelling noob
Espen says:
But if you coded that idle walking it would be great.
Espen says:
Then the player can't always be sure where the zombies are.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Aye
Espen says:
But make a spawnflag to toggle it, or else it's impossible to plan ambushes.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Um. Sure
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Good idea
Espen says:
Like, don't begin the idle walking until it was seen the player atleast once or something as well.
Espen says:
spawnflag: only idle walk after seeing player
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Huh? What do you mean? If it sees the player it attacks
Espen says:
yeah, but lemme say it like this:
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
And if it's seen by the player and the player doesn;t kill it for some reason (not likely in OIFH tbh )..
Espen says:
Good point.
Espen says:
leave to after player part out
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
I'll just make a spawnflag that would disable it.. I can make a trigger that could toggle that ingame too if you really need one
Espen says:
but keep the "don't walk in idle" spawnflag.
Espen says:
yeah do that.
Espen says:
it would be really convenient.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Alrighty
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
How're the turrets btw? Apart from the bugs ;>
Espen says:
It's awesome. Except the rocket turret has an aiming flaw.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Yeah
Espen says:
it fires the rpg just above the player.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Oh, that
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Is it really noticeable?
Espen says:
it has other aiming bugs?
Espen says:
yeah, if you stand still it only takes about 5 hp pr shot.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Just that the player can giude it's rockets
Espen says:
depending on where you're standing.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Hm.
Espen says:
have it shoot at the players feet would be nice.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
I knew that bug, though didn't pay much attention since it did damage him after all
Espen says:
but not on a deadly explosion scale
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
We can always up it's damage via skill.cfg, but yeah, that'll have to be fixed eventually
Espen says:
yeah.
Espen says:
And the laser turret never misses.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Nope
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Never
Espen says:

Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Should it?
Espen says:
nope
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
^^
Espen says:
if it does it's too easy to dodge.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Lasers are perfction. Besides, making a hit cone = moar work ;P
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
perfection*
Espen says:
but barney's shooting code needs changing i think.
Espen says:
he never misses.
Espen says:
he should have a hit cone.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Um. Well - the glock's cone is really small
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
You'll always direct hit from a big distance
Espen says:
but not if you right-click.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Barney uses primary fire
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
His cone is a bit bigger than the noemal primary fire cone anyways
Espen says:
ok.
Espen says:
but
Espen says:
you gotta fix his instant shooting bug
Espen says:
if you run around a corner when he's shooting, when you come back he shoots you without giving you a chance to think.
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Grr. FUCK my wireless
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
Fucker keeps disconnecting
Espen says:
switch to cable net
Espen says:

Espen says:
back
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
It's my laptop connection. Living in a temporary apartment till our new apartment is renovated
Daubster I like my pancakes with In Flames - LOOK BEHIND YOU! It's a three-headed internet! says:
No interwebs here
Espen says:
ok
Espen says:
It would be wise to post this convo on the interwebs for future reference.

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