Some people might still think that Eastern Front is just another mod. But it is much more than that. It really is more an expansion than a mod. Thats why it's gonna be so important for Company of Heroes.
Eastern Front does not change a thing to your normal Company of Heroes/Opposing Fronts/Tales of Valor. It (just) adds the Soviet Union as a faction. Complete with new models, skins, sounds, buildings, tech trees and maps.
Preview of our new menu background. Something many CoH players will see soon.
This means that Eastern Front is basically a must get for every CoH player. You can still play almost all your old CoH stuff, together with the all new stuff of EF! If you like it, you will never have to start CoH again and you will always have people online to play multiplayer with!
Subtle, but bringing over 30 million soviet soldiers to the game. Are you ready to get into the war?
Now check our latest video about Soviet Union Support Units.
OMG IF I DONT PLAY THIS SOON I THINK I'M GONNA COLLAPSE! A truly amazing job guys. I've been waiting for the soviets to be in this game for a while and soon it will be a reality.
BTW any new news on a release date pls?
Wow, this looks really pro - it's like a complete expansion, keep up the hard work - and, nice update guys!
You expected anything less? Thanks for the appreciation.
Dang it I lost my COH:OF Code and I had to reinstall game.
Looking very good.. yes, looking pro...
Ive got one question. If ur making a new Allies Faction to play as do u intend to make a new German Faction as well?
Read what Angstmann said a few posts above. We'll be adding an "Ostheer" faction in a future release along with some unique weaponary.
Go! Go! For the Motherland!
are there another screens for the new version of COH, because this are screens of a 2.301 version(i think so)
You are correct, those screenshots are from an older version - also why that is not the current Eastern Front logo. But I assure you, it does work in 2.501.
Za rodina!
do y'all plan on adding a soviet SP campaign?
We're considering it, but it won't but for a while, certainly after the initial release.
"You can still play almost all your old CoH stuff..."
Are you saying that not totally everything is playable after installing this mod/expansion?
I love this mod though :D
is there going to be new german amry because LOL none have made stuka planes to take out tanks or use the brumbar,elephant,stumtiger,jadgtigerand other rare tanks. It would be more interesting if they did.
Yet again - "We'll be adding an "Ostheer" faction in a future release along with some unique weaponary."
Will there be a new german army?
I'd really like if Stuka planes came and blow up russian tanks :)
- How about making in-game artillery MOBILE... ? :)
Like the Lehr18 not USA/Brit Howitzers, hmm, something that turns into
a truck when it moves? / Or like PAK, but slower / Or attachable to the
HT?
- I'd like if Russians had a truck like the Opel (forgot name Z something) instead of HT for battlefield replenishment of troops?
Might make it free, that'd be an interesting difference :)
And AGAIN - "We'll be adding an "Ostheer" faction in a future release along with some unique weaponary."
- I'm pulling your leg, dude :) Although I was tempted as hell to
say something to the effect of : Well, nice to have 'Ostheer' but, see,
I'd like a *GERMAN* faction, for east front, y'see... :)
- When can we try out the soviet faction? It's been 2 yrs :)
- WILL there be winter maps?
- The BoB map not only has snow on ground, it has snow as WEATHER.
I WANT that, I NEED that :)
- Europe in Ruins and BoB both have TONS of new models could you
steal any? :) If you ask them nicely, that is :)
: What about my mobile Howitzer idea? :)
- Not the easy eight sherman, or 105mm sherman, of course...
but JaegerPanzer would be nice.
- What vehicles will soviets be using for a HT/Truck, and jeep?
I would suggest a truck that gives new troops for free, but is, itself
unarmored. No?
guys! Why do you all think that russian infantry must be free? Russian were fighting with the much more numerous and skilled enemy than an Americans or Britain do! There were no really important war operation won by allies during the WW2!! NO ONE!!! you talking about your superiority, but the russian ammo was the best! Even better than jerry's have! Our infantry (conscripts are exeption) is much more skilled than American GI or british one! Your history - is reigan's fake! And a film Enemy at the gate - feerytical bunch of special effects , that has NO HISTORIC REALISM! And what about jeep - its true! we have a lot of thanks to led-lees program! But we never use them in combat, like americans do. It was a front-line car for the higher officers. From the order n932 every major in russian army ought to get one.
I think your slant on the events is polluted by anti-West ideology.
"Why do you all think that russian infantry must be free?"
Russian Infantry will not be free.
"There were no really important war operation won by allies during the WW2!!"
Africa? Western Europe? The Atlantic? The Pacific? Asia? Mediterranian? The Western Allies accomplished all those 'really important war operations', without Britain or America being invaded once. The Soviets just about managed with just Eastern Europe, on top of that, their own soil was invaded and much of their land and people destroyed.
"Our infantry (conscripts are exeption) is much more skilled than American GI or british one!"
Interesting point, since about 90% of the Red Army were conscripts... If the Red Army was 'much more skilled', then why did they lose twice as many soldiers as the Axis did on the Eastern Front? The ratio for the Western Allies is nowhere near that!
"And a film Enemy at the gate - feerytical bunch of special effects , that has NO HISTORIC REALISM!"
Live with it. It is a film, a very good film. Not a War Documentary.
"Live with it. It is a film, a very good film. Not a War Documentary."
You right! but the problem is that many of western people use it like an war-time encyclopedy.
"Interesting point, since about 90% of the Red Army were conscripts... If the Red Army was 'much more skilled', then why did they lose twice as many soldiers as the Axis did on the Eastern Front? The ratio for the Western Allies is nowhere near that!"
And you want to say that in American army only volotiers?
Or in British? Russian main and most expirienced forces were destroyed by first jerry strike in 22 of june in 1941. But the second strategic wawe are men who broke the mannergeim line and japs on Halhin Gole. Mannergeim line was theoretically unipossible yo broke. Our army do that in more then 30 degrees frost. Those who formed 2 strategic wawe were mosttxpirienst from those, who left after the first mounth of war.
"Africa? Western Europe? The Atlantic? The Pacific? Asia? Mediterranian? The Western Allies accomplished all those 'really important war operations', without Britain or America being invaded once. The Soviets just about managed with just Eastern Europe, on top of that, their own soil was invaded and much of their land and people destroyed."
Africa - fighting of Selfish Montgomery (Like stupid bastard Zhukov) aganist 2 Rommel divisions! In a desert! Great!
And what about loses! I know the nubers your talking about. This numbers include NOT only soldiers but ALSO CITIZEN that were killed during the occupation!
Western Europe! Allies landed in there in 1944! Why so late? why not in 1942! Because churchill scared about commie occupation(he is not alone), so landindg of allies troops is not really military action! During D-Day many people are killed at beaches for nothing!! It is a criminal and Chirchill and Rusevelt are quilty!! The war is almost over, and landing of more than 1.6 million of allied troops is not really necesarry!
The Atlantic? The Pacific? - Yes! You got damn wright! And thak your marines and airboys for clean sky and water in these regions.
"I think your slant on the events is polluted by anti-West ideology."
My country is polluted by that stuff! But only not me! I have my own oppinion, and everithing i said is comming from the fact, because of sayng that "AMERICANS ARE BASTARDS"-"WHY?"-"I DON'T KNOW BUT THEY ARE" - is coming up to my grandma!))I'm not saying your are bastards or something like that! I have a lot of respect for your country guys but we talking about history realism not about relationship!
P.S. Is It actually a MOD prewiev or a HISTORIC forum))))))
One more thing! My sudgestion is to include in diffensive doctrine Stalin's order 227 "Ни шагу назад" (ni shagu nazad) - that can make unpossible to retreat (retreat button dissapers)
The current build of the mod played by the developers doesnt let Soviet infantry retreat. This adds to some particuarly interesting gameplay mechanics.
- I feel they ought to be able to retreat. They'd just have to face
the consequences - Being shot down by officers (Base defenses). But this
would deny XP to the german enemies :)
Nah, would be pretty pointless. No retreat means you literally have to fight to the death, which is basically all the Russian troops ever did. As long as your in a big enough group, and don't get pinned by MG fire, even the Conscripts can do quite well.
And he is right. Soviet troops being in the best there is ought to
cost 450+ manpower per man - to reinforce. And much higher to buy in
the first place. Like 1800 manpower for a single squad of conscripts?
But they would be able to use the King Tiger like a baseball bat,
swinging it about by holding on to it's cannon with their bare hands.
And be bulletproof, and fireproof. Realism, after all, must be
maintained :)
(They're 'ubermennen!' The master race) :)
- They'd of course be 80 feet tall per man. Showing proper
stature for their many skills and talents :)
Are you german?? Maybe nazi?
i 'am untermench you wanna say?????????
you learn history from the films! In ukraine with yours education level you can be only prison-guardsman)
by the way! i don't really care what think a guy, who live in a country, that is a british dominion, and even have no own strategic policy!))))))
Keep political xenophobic views to yourself. Especially if they are incorrect. You will find that Canada is not a British dominion and it does have it's own military forces and doctrine.
i know that!! and i'm not a Westernfobe)))) I'm talking about period of war! not about the modern time.
my friend lives in there, so i have a lot of information about Canada! And what about xenofobic! tell this to Felin! You have nothing aganist anti-russian posts, but you talking about nationalism, comming from me. That's interesting point! Take a look for other posts! I hate those people who talking about my country like bunch of alkoholics, bears walking on the streets, etc. And those who trying to steel our great victory in WW2
I see no posts talking about USSR as a bunch of alcoholics, or with bears walking around the streets. In fact, I see no anti-Soviet posts at all.
"were no really important war operation won by allies during the WW2!! NO ONE!!!"
Sounds like you are the one trying to 'steal' any victories made by the allies.
- We got TONS of bears walking in the streets and eating garbage here,
in Canada.
- It's STEAL our victory. Not steel.
- As a matter of fact, I've forever been fascinating with WW2 history.
My grandpa was in the RCAF and fought the battle of britain, africa
and Italy campaigns.
- I love COH as a CHESS game. I love WW2 games, and as thus, I obviously would love Soviet forces which are balanced, different and interesting to play. I love StarCraft 1 (And can't wait for 2) for the
very same reasons.
As a chess game, they ought to be pros and cons. Russian army was more
numerous, but ought to be less quality than german forces. Same with US vs Wermacht. KCH are 3 men, Grenadiers 4 and Volks 5 and Riflemen are 6.
If we put conscripts at 8, no, they should be not KHC right off the bat.
They ought to have severe limitations, which they compensate with
numbers.
In chess-like terminology, you were saying there were no pawns in
the soviet army. Only Queens, as Soviets were clearly superior in every
way to everyone else on earth. Fine. 8 troop conscripts which each
the strenght of a full squad of KHC. I'm sorry, but, they'd thus be
more expensive. In that context, then, yea, their replenishments shouldn't be free (you didn't want them to be free). So, fine, if they're all queens. I suggest 1800 manpower initial cost and 450 MP
cost - per man - replenishment. (They're 8 men queens afterall).
80 foot tall, iron, firebreathing, invulnerable and fireproof godzilla
ubermennen. Who can pick up King Tigers with their bare hands and
swing them about by the cannon like baseball bats, and crush infantry
beneath their iron boots.
No retreats. Because they don't NEED to. And every fight would be
an automatic Russian victory within the first 20 seconds.
...
I was essentially being ironic as to your - obviously - slanted
opinions :) Can't you see sarcasm when you see it?
I loved playing IL2 Sturmovik, Panzer General2, COD1,2, 4 and 5.
(In 4 I play russians (Well, anything really), in 5, etc, same.
I'll play german. I'll play soviet campaign in Axis n' Allies, I'll
play soviet - and anything else - in any game.
I want a good game of chess.
You want an auto soviet victory because soviets are the best.
No, who is racist?
- Small note : I also suggested conscripts to morph into regulars
once they had acquired sufficient experience. And that soviet troops
be permitted to retreat - yes, to be shot at by base defenses. That
they ought to have AT grenades, etc. Is that anti soviet?
Mosin nagan rifle and revolver were BELGIUM derived.
T-34s used the Christy suspension - Not soviet.
First Soviet tanks used Vickers machine guns.
Soviet tanks used - clearly VERY ****** - optics.
YES! They had higher caliber than anyone else
(76mm vs 50mm and 90-122mm vs 75-88mm) but was it because of
... Why am I arguing with you?
- And no... I said UBERmennen. Not UNTERmennen.
In the chess context, you were saying soviets had 36 pieces, all of
which ought to be queens, to the German's norman chess set of 1.
And how it shouldn't be a battle of skill, but an historical one!!
- I was being sarcastic. Saying you're right! All soviet troops were
80 foot tall iron gods! Because they're uber. I was sarcastic AT you.
What's wrong? Can't handle an equal fight? :)
- Now, I'm not saying soviets should automatically lose.
I think they should be more like Zergs, and the Germans like Protoss.
... But strenghts and weaknesses being different, both having an
hopefully equal chance to win, to be decided by the player.
And I WANT to play Soviet. AND against them. It's chess damn it!
GUYS GUYS!!! Ok what about sarcastic! Maybe i'm not quite good in english to correctly understand you! Sorry sir! If we talking about regular soviet infantry so i think that they might to be like zerg Hydrolisk and conscrips are like ussual dogs. But TO WARTYX you're right about anti-soviet posts! There is no one! BUT in every i can read alot of disrespect to army, that been striked most heavily in a history of human! LUFT! I'm not sayng that russian soldiers are some kind of supermen BUT i want to prove! THAT THEY WERE EQUAL TO GERMANS! my sudgestion REGULAR SOVIET=AMERICAN GI=GERMAN GRENADIERS! that will be AN EQUAL FIGHT!!!!
In this mod, the individual basic Soviet infantryman is much weaker than the individual basic German infantryman. This is based on historical facts of poor training, poor equipment, poor morale, poor leaders during the early part of the war.
However - the infantry are much cheaper, allowing for larger skirmishes and assaults. The real badboys come when you start outfitting the infantry with PPSh machineguns and training Guards.
All is in the name of gameplay science, balancing and fun. No point in making the Soviet faction identical to the Allies/Germans.
Sure! Our officer were not poor! Those who survived were unexpirienced! Problem is that we thought that germans will never attack! They were to weak for this! We have better ammo tanks equipment and soldiers! it's all lost at night of 22 june! We planned to attack western europe/ so army, that is planning to offense can't diffence! Jerry striked when our tanks were unfueled,unarmed! When our infantry was sleeping. our planes were standing on the airfields! WING TO WING! think about it! If you want to attack (even in coh) you will place your supply lines as closer to the enemy as possible! To save injured soldiers, repair tanks, quickly sent reinforcement! Right? On 22 of june on russian border were 4.5 million sovet soldiers nearly 20 thousand of tanks including 667 KV and 1400 t- 34 (at the moment that's a best tanks of the war! until 42!) nearly than 15000 planes! it was the best army ever seen the world! Imagine! You playing for britian(for example) you have 6 sections of infantry 2 cromwell 2 butterfly etc! you place your forces close to a breakpoint and then( holly ****!) jerry strikes you buy a artillery barrage! And so! You were having a good powered forces! so what! they all dead! and now your base can be destroyed by 2 pumas and 3-4 squads of volkgrenadiers!
So this happends to our army 22 of june! So don't call them poorly trained! We were having everithing even after june of 41! so i think that make conscripts unexpiriensed - true! But make them almoust unarmed stupid!
P.S. SOrry for bad english!!!
- I agree with everything WartyX said. Individually weaker, but more
troops. - ESPECIALLY - conscripts? Hey all armies have 'em
: PE : 3 men squad at first, add1 (4+sarge)+weaponup
: US : Riflemen no BAR, lots of addons, Rangers, Paratroopers.
: We : Volkstruppen no MP40 (Or grenades!), Grenadiers, Sturmtruppen,
KNC
: Bri: No officer tommy. Without addon. Slowww. Shitttyy
Commandos! :)
Why shouldn't the initial russian troop be weaker than Guards?
Or even Regulars?
- And, yes, I know. The soviet army was getting ready to invade
Europe riiiight when Hitler struck them. There was a LOT of paratrooper
forces, too, with pamphlets saying in German to surrender. Give up.
That's when Stalin - ONE - of his big officer purges. He'd locked up
the best generals. So the army was leaderless when the Germans struck.
(Operation Barbossa)
- Fighter pilots, Bomber pilots were a LOTTTT more skilled/experienced.
- Russian tanks better, fine. Soviet had even sent observer in Wehr
factories, etc, wanted to see 'their biggest tank' upon being shown
the Pz4, he flew into a rage. YOU LIE!!!
Wasn't a lie :)
- But germany - easily - crushed France who had BETTER TANKS, MORE
TANKS, MORE PLANES (French army was combined with British Army too)
Lots of Hurricanes, etc, British tanks. Got crushed in 4 days.
88mm Flak used in AT role, and first time use of Dive bombers in
support role, as well as the Blitkrieg tactics, all this made the
difference.
- That's fine, english is not my first language either!! :D
: People like to say that French = We surrender. But seriously, French had way more troops, more tanks, about same planes, HEAVIER tanks. And don't forget, MOST OF THE $#@(* whole british army was there too. And Hitler didn't even use all his forces, and still crushed them in 4 days.
No Mp44 in those days. No Panthers, No Tiger, No KING Tiger.
88mm Flak was there, though. Nice, evil, powerful.
Superior tactics.
: As for being anti-soviet, all I am saying is that they are Zergs.
No, not hydralisks. Conscripts are Zerglings!! :) But, yes, they
can work up to ULTRALISKS!... But the point is that there is no
point in WartyX and etc to design a soviet faction if they would
lose easily to German. UNITS are INDIVIDUALLY weaker, yes. Same as
Zerg vs Protoss. / But reinforcements/units cost less, and you get
a LOT more of them.
I *WANT* to play soviet and kick german butt (as well as the contrary)
I am merely warning that I don't want Soviet to be overpowered
(Protoss unit strenght, Zerg numbers). Or ... UNDERpowered (Zerg
unit strenght, Protoss numbers).
They should be DIFFERENT from other armies as well, enough to make it
interesting, without feeling like they are only re-skins.
So, yes. Kv1/T34 way more armor than Pz3/Pz4/StuB Optics were ****,
turrent accomodations were crap. So germans had the advantage of :
1) Better alloys, 2) More range, 3) WAY more experience 4) Flak88
as AT! 5) Better tactics 6) Stalin killing or locking up all his best
generals (all of them, almost, period), 7) Surprise...
T34 had advantage of WAY better HE characteristics on it's 76mm
cannon than that of german tanks, ease of manufacture (It was a simple
tank), DIESEL fuel and oils that didn't freeze in winter (Russians
were kinda used to the cold? hehe) HORRIBLE turret inner configuration
(They were slow to reload and couldn't long range aim for ****).
The optics were sometimes a piece of glass with CHALK crosshairs!!
And WAY weaker machine-guns (Germans had 2-3 machine guns with 150
ammo clips, T34 had 1 DP60 with 60 ammo clip)
45mm slanted armor was proof against 50mm high velocity guns, or
75mm low velocity guns (StuB/Early Pz4).
Yes, it got numerous upgrades, and the T34/85 had better armor,
better gun AND better turret. But was slower, and somewhat too
heavy, so it could bog down, while the earlier T34s were famous
for being unboggable. The T34/85 had better turret accomodation
(extra crew for reloading) so ROF (rate of fire was better).
Optic was still ****** per German standards, but at 10-on-1 ratio,
that didn't matter :)
You said that Stalin killed his best generals!! Names!!! Who are this "Best generals?"
Mikhail Tukhachevsky, Vasily Blyukhe and Alexander Yegorov. 3 Marshalls of the Soviet Union killed during Stalins purges, along with 8 Admirals, 13 Commanders, 50 Corps Commanders, 154 Divisional Commanders and 41 Commissars. I'm not going to sit here all day and name them all.
By the way! I agree with your point about conscripts! I WAS SAYING that REGULAR must be like HYDROLISK!!! not CONSCRIPTS!!! And what about **** optics! Did you ever held a tank-gun aim system from T-34? Do you know the parameters of 76 mm l-10 gun? it fire power? Startup speed of shell? I'am going to be a reservist tank officer, so, belive me, everything that you have been told about russian tanks of this period is LIE!!! great gun! equal to modern lightTanks))))))))
Tukhachevski - stupid coward who used military gas aganist his own people in Tambov! hangman! Lost a battle for Warshav like a sissy!!
Blukher killed on operation table - no Stalin's fault! Thank to Trockiy - he is the bastard! By the way we were handling without Blukher!
Egorov - you better not to know , what kind of a man was Egorov!
Vasilevsky, Rokossovsky, Vatutin, Bagramjan, Shaposhnikov are best soviet commanders! And they were sucsessfully commad their troops even during the first mounth of war! We were having heavy loses but we've won! Thanks to them!!!!!