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The only war on poverty there has been for decades is the gradual dismantlement of the New Deal by everyone from Bush Sr. to Obama. Social policy isn't the single determinant value of a label, economics are far more important. Obama pushed the private healthcare mandate, continued the last Bush's foreign policy, constantly capitulating from the get-go on every issue to Republicans.

How are trillions of dollars of war debt, exporting jobs, and weakening the rights of the average citizen practical? All of this will continue under your standard Republican or establishment Democrat.

Downvoting a viewpoint you don't agree with isn't very scholarly but then again it's not like you came here expecting people to hear you out with a open mind.

The New Deal isn't what got America out of our massive debt and poverty that we had during the great depression. Oddly enough it was the war and production that soared our economy when World War II came along. Aspects like social security were good, but other aspects of the new deal were never mean't to be permanent. Only temporary to help America out of it's rut.

Excuse me, but I don't recall ever saying trillions of dollars in war debt, exporting jobs, or weakening the rights of the average citizen was ever practical. If I did, then I would like you too quote me on it when and where I said it, provide a link if so.

There's a reason I don't favor the establishment this election cycle, and why people like Trump or Cruz I favor over them. You called Cruz a sleeze bag in the last post, but frankly he's been one of the most hated candidates other than Trump by the GOP establishment. His record proves that.

If we go the way of single payer like Berni wants us too on healthcare we will end up like the VA for our veterans which already uses single payer. And thus far it's been a disaster for decades. You have any idea how many veterans Ive had to hear from both friends of mine and in person complain about the VA?

Putting healthcare under government overseeing like with the VA for all, will only cause more problems for the average American citizen. In fact under Obamacare Ive already heard and looked up articles supporting that it's actually been making healthcare more expensive for people out there.

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There is no perfect system, nor is there any cookie cutter solutions for the crisis this country is in right now. We need to bring jobs back, yes, that's a must. We need to secure our borders, naturally. We need to win the war on terror in a way that won't utterly bankrupt us, of course! But frankly everyone has a different viewpoint of how these things should be done, if done at all.

Oh dear, forgive me for downvoting something I don't agree with. I'm not Obama, I'm not here to suck anyone off nor do I expect anyone else to do so.

American jobs didn't just magically disappear. Between Reagan and Clinton trade deals have been signed that have brought ruin to this country. The TPP is just another one of those wonderful deals to destroy American jobs and on top of that set an international court up to destroy our economic sovereignty.

If you support the standard politicians you are supporting more needless war on the other side of the world, continuing the support of the theocratic state of Saudi Arabia, the exportation of US jobs, and weakening of workers rights. These are the consistent results of establishment politicians.

The VA has nothing to do with a national healthcare system, they're terribly outdated and inefficient. The VA doesn't even keep digital records, because evidently politicians don't actually care about veterans. What Sanders is pushing is Medicare for all.

Although I do hate having to occasionally defend Obama's few marginal achievements, increasing health insurance standards did increase prices for some if their coverage was near-pointless in the first place. I'm not exactly a fan of a mandate to give a corporation your money in the first place; I'm sick of corporate subsidies.

This is true, between the trade deals established thus far they have been a major contributor to exporting of jobs. That and extra federal regulations which could be argued unnecessary against corporates. We need regulation but it has to be moderated so we don't end up with crony capitalism. Reversing the damage done by these deals would also bring jobs back. I mean, the trade deals did help the economy, but they hurt our employment sector in return.

I don't like us supporting the Saudi's anymore than you do. We've established the most awkward of ties in the mideast with governments there. The only one I really support is Israel and that's partly because they are the only real Democratic government in the region. You and I may disagree but I'd rather ditch the rest and just stick to supporting them. Most the other countries we get involved with in the mideast end up using us to buy their oil or fight their wars for them.

Yay, but what sanders proposes uses similar points to the VA which is what I'm bothered about. And seeing as how most agencies overseen by the government on such a scale like the IRS are as incompetent as the VA I don't have trouble believing that government overseen healthcare would meet the same troubles.

At least with the corporates there was a diverse field of other options.

Well of course, if you're talking about some silly regulations that for instance only allow the sale of vehicles by a car dealership. Imposing needless middlemen on the automotive industry isn't exactly brilliant, no more than someone should have to deal with some insurance corporation giving them a limited amount of medical care. Perhaps one could say that is healthcare rationing, though it not like anyone has claimed national medical care would involve rationing or "death panels" in a related argument. No, that would be silly.

If any country needs US influence, its Iran. For a while now they've been becoming more and more moderate. Plus the Shia are just plainly less ridiculous in general than the Sunni, nor are they supporting ISIS unlike somebody the US has a rather cozy relationship with.

"How the world really works" is just another phrase for 'I have no solution so go screw yourself, all for one and none for all.'

He's a Democratic Socialist, a centrist in the politics of Europe. Do explain how Europe is such a collective hellhole because "Socialism has failed in all its forms everywhere".

You clearly don't understand the "left" as it is in the US. Generic old establishment Democrats are centrists and Liberals/Progressives/Socialists hate their pessimism. As a prominent Republican pollster said recently, millennials are terrifyingly liberal and the Democratic party is only going to begin reflecting that. As far as we're concerned, Obama's a centrist who capitulated and passed Republican healthcare legislation proposed by Nixon and Romney. Clinton's even more conservative than Obama, she's only recently promulgated this idea that she's uber-progressive to siphon off all the Bernie supporters she can doup.

I've only a vague understanding of Europe. It seems the working class is not exceptionally well off for historical reasons but its history of class warfare has earned the working class a great deal more of rights collectively than the US has going for it. Austerity hasn't exactly helped them much.

Well, I'll teach you a secret. "Progressivism" is mostly about social policy. This allows centrists and establishment members of what is called the "left" in the US to claim they are "progressive" and thus a noble forward-thinking liberal. This is often just a ruse.

Its silly but identity politics are a game for phony leftists; referred to as "regressives" by some. This is something conservatives don't care to notice because its simply not their realm of politics. These phonies are the enemy of the genuine left that cares about economic policy and thus support Sanders(80% of millennials). Old bastards just vote for whoever is declared "electable" by the establishment. Claiming to support women, the alphabet soup of genders and sexuality is merely a way to scapegoat that the establishment accidentally invented.

This is why Socialism is growing in popularity, millennials have the internet in their pocket. We don't need the establishment and yeah, maybe you could call us the teaparty of the left but at least we're not demanding the government to "take its dirty hands off our medicare" or telling Obama to go back to Kenya. We just want Obama to go away to make room for a real leftist because we haven't had one for decades and medicare to cover the whole country. We want an education and opportunity, not a handout.