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Some weapons straight from VietDoom to Brutal Doom v21. Now with optional iron sights!

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VietDoom Weapons v2.2
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Vlad2008
Vlad2008 - - 1 comments

A suggestion for whenever V2 comes out, maybe make an M60 replacer for the LMG?

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Yeah, sure thing. I was also thining about the same. Anyway I'm already working on a complete replacer/spawner system. However the balancing is probably not gonna be perfect...

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DraigoDragon
DraigoDragon - - 50 comments

you can always just make it as fun as possible

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skdursh
skdursh - - 474 comments

Does this function without Brutal Doom or does it actually require Brutal Doom to play? I'm a fan of SgtMark's maps and his work so far on Vietdoom, but I kind of find Brutal Doom unpleasant to play. I would like to use the Vietdoom weapons in other wads though, but not if it's being forced together with Brutal Doom.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

I don't think that it would work that way. Most of the refered codes and actors are burried deep into BD. Maybe you should try purist mode, but I don't know how does it work together with the NAM weapons. When I ported them I kept the realism mode in focus.

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skdursh
skdursh - - 474 comments

Got ya, I'm going to download it anyway and see if I can just rip the weapons and their scripts and package it into a way that is compatible with vanilla Doom. Thanks for doing the bulk of the work though.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Maybe you should try to eliminate everything related to the NPCs first. I would rather start to "diminish" BD21 itself rather than trying to rip the necessary parts.

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eviltechno
eviltechno - - 502 comments

Thanks a lot!

Can you do the same with Sgt Mark's MEATGRINDER weapons?

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

To be honest I haven't even checked those. But as I've seen they are with vanilla gloves and at the moment I don't really feel like editing those sprites.

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eviltechno
eviltechno - - 502 comments

Yea, I'm just realising your mod is not just a replacement for the BD guns anyway.

I'm looking for someone to make a guns only version of MEATGRINDER. That way we could use it together with BD21 monsters only, and thus kinda enabling locational damage for that MEATGRINDER mod (or just have a Brutal doom with much stronger weapons, to play with harder mods like overkill version of MOC or something)

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eviltechno
eviltechno - - 502 comments

I think It's bugged for me. When archiving some mg's through the spawner system my BD rifle can't be accessed anymore and when running above some dropped ones I don't get any new ammo for the NAM ones. Also I get a strange sprite animation everytime I press reload on those guns (and unfotunately I have +reload and +use on the same button on my setup)

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Seems like the wrong animation is only when the gun is empty. I can live with that.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

The assault rifle has been removed from the keyconf, so basically it is intentional.

The ammo issue is new for me, I will investigate.

The full gun reloading stuff is inherited from the VietDoom itself.

Anyway, thanks for the report.

There is also something wrong with the RPG, sometimes it tends to crash the whole GZDoom, when it feels like. I have managed to fix one of the suspected issues but still happens rarely...

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DeathCold
DeathCold - - 326 comments

So, i did what you said, playing game in Tactical mode, but for me there is no VietDoom weapons for some reason. I mean, when game starts then i get the standart Brutal Doom assault rifle, but when i select fists then the rifle is gone, and i can't select it. After that, when i kill few enemies, they drop only the shotgun ammo but not the weapons themselfs. So, the only way to have these weapons is to use a cheat code, because without it i can't get any of VietDoom weapons at all. So yeah, i hope that you can fix it, or else this mod is unplayable, for me at least.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

I would really appreciate if you people would read the description. The assault rifle is gone for reason because I couldn't remove it from the starting loadout properly.

You should play for more than 2 minutes and then you would see that VietDoom weapons are spawned INSTEAD of the common weapon pickups. Enemies are only dropping ammo (and pistol zombies M1911s to have something to start with).

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DeathCold
DeathCold - - 326 comments

I DO read the description. I played a half of Knee-Deep in the Dead and i didn't found any weapon from VietDoom. So yeah, i wouldn't complain about it, if it worked.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Have you checked the place where a shotgun should be found on E1M1? There should be an UZI/PPSh/M3/MAT49. Also, on E1M2 outside in the place of the chaingun an SKS/AK/M16/M14 is placed randomly by the replacer script. It may be hard without the enemy weapon drops. But the immersion is better if the high-tec future spacemarine zombies don't drop guns from the 60s.

Plasma rifle is replaced by random machine guns and rocket launcher is with RPG or GL. SSG with sniper rifles or Ithaca, but doesn't matter on Ultimate Doom at the moment.

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DeathCold
DeathCold - - 326 comments

Nevermind. I fixed it. All i did previously is just droped all files in to skins folder, inside Zandronum folder and that is why thid addon didn't worked. But when i loaded it via bat file, then it worked. With known bugs and glitches, but it worked. Also i noticed that, if you press the reload button when your weapon is already loaded, then your ammo that you have with you, will starting to drain each time you press reload button. Also, it would be better if we could start the game with pistol or with M16, instead of BD assault rifle.

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Leoyagami96
Leoyagami96 - - 36 comments

Did You know that the napalm and artillery works outside the maps

I mean i tested both in map 10 and 3 of biowar wad and it worked perfectly

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

How did you try it? This .pk3 doesn't contain the binocular.

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kaviarmackan
kaviarmackan - - 210 comments

Are you still gonna make the FG42 with scope?

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Not really a priority. Maybe someday, but I'm working on something entirely different right now.

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LocustQ
LocustQ - - 488 comments

How to run this mod for OG/Vanilla Doom?

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

You can't. The code heavily relies on BD's.

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Gleylancer
Gleylancer - - 72 comments

This is a great mod, any chance you could get the 1911 working with pistol spawns?

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

How do mean? What pistol spawns?

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Gleylancer
Gleylancer - - 72 comments

It seems like no matter what option I choose when I starting a new game, I either spawn bare handed or with the default BD pistol

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

That's intentional. If you're going with tactical mode (which is more than recommended) you have to pick up the fight for that .45.

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Gleylancer
Gleylancer - - 72 comments

Ahhh ok, I've been using your mod with an enemy replacer (left 4 doom game play mod Forum.zdoom.org) so that's why I thought It may have been a mistake. I can just spawn a pistol on start anyway using the console so all good, thanks

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myDOOMmakemeQUAKE
myDOOMmakemeQUAKE - - 134 comments

I love all this work

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Thanks!

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

It seems that the upcoming VietDoom release is gonna inculde claymore mines. Of course I'll do my best to implement the latest features ASAP.

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Demirgon
Demirgon - - 225 comments

It's cool, but does it support Zandronum?

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

I don't know. I have little interest in Zandronum.

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Random_DOOM_Player
Random_DOOM_Player - - 23 comments

This addon is amazing! Id be cool if you could use ironsights, but other than that, this is a clean 10/10!

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Thanks. Ironsights are not included in VietDoom itself, therefore I couldn't port such a thing to Brutal Doom. But I was already thinking about to create an optional addon for this feature.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

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Random_DOOM_Player
Random_DOOM_Player - - 23 comments

Cant wait for this addon! Amazing work!

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

The whole addon is gonna be released overhauled by Christmas. Currently I'm struggling with some bugs related to the MG ironsights - which should be avalilable only if the bipod is deployed.

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Guest
Guest - - 691,156 comments

A Sergeant Mark IV mod crossover, amazing work!

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Saladofstones
Saladofstones - - 263 comments

Would it be difficult to create a version for project bruatality on my own or are the codebases too different?

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sleibhin
sleibhin - - 11 comments

Hiya Thorir. I am a huge, huge fan of your mods thus far. I had a small request, provided you have the time: I wonder if you would be able to recreate (for Brutal Doom, of course) some of the weapons featured in the first two Terminator films*.

(*I think you might have already done the M1887 shotgun and the Uzi 9mm, but I'm not too sure at the moment)

Some examples:
AMT Hardballer .45 Longslide with laser sighting
Armalite AR-18
Sawed-off Ithaca 37 12ga
Remington 870
And of course the "Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40w range" (lol)

I understand that you have a scarce amount of time which you can devote to modding, so I will completely understand if you can do none of this at this time. If nothing else, thank you for your consideration.

-Sleibhin

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Believe it or not, like 6 months ago I started tinkering on a Terminator firearms related mod. I can't promise anything but wanted to let you know that I definitely have something very similar in my mind! :)

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sleibhin
sleibhin - - 11 comments

Thorir, you're the guv'nor.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

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sleibhin
sleibhin - - 11 comments

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Basically it's done. All I need to do is adding some replacer scripts for the weapons. Plenty of (dynamic) one-liners are also included. (Guns: .45 long-slide, UZI, SPAS12, M1887, M16A1, Pulse Rifle, M79, Phased Plasma Rifle, Heavy Plasma Cannon)

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Guest
Guest - - 691,156 comments

OMG. You are definitely a real one. AND you added motorcycle riding. *virtual fist bump with extra respect*

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Motorcycle riding was already included in Brutal Doom itself. I just added the ability to shoot Terminator-style while riding.

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sleibhin
sleibhin - - 11 comments

Hey, it shows you respect the overall aesthetic.

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Thorir Author
Thorir - - 571 comments

Frankly these sprites aren't mine, I just tinkered around them a bit, put a piece of code behind it to make it work... That's why the crediting itself will take considerable time. But we are almost there, the whole addon is basicaly complete, just needs a little testing and polishing.

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