Description

This is a ledge grab addon for Brutal Doom. Unlike previous similar addons, this was based off of IvoryDuke's zmovement mod.

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Brutal Doom LedgeGrab
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JonnyNava367
JonnyNava367

Is this compatible with Zandronum?

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robowisan11th
robowisan11th

nope, the ledge grab uses zscript (which zandronum doesn't have) so unfortunately no

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GaMryous
GaMryous

There is an addon similar to this that works with Zandronum so I think that addon beats this in terms of compatibility. Link to the ledgegrab addon I was talking about: Moddb.com

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Mechanical-Sanity Author
Mechanical-Sanity

I know about that addon, but I didn't like it. It was too stiff and not much to be done about it.

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robowisan11th
robowisan11th

i see

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MattMayhem
MattMayhem

Would it be possible to make this addon compatible with your BD Screen Effects? When I try to load them together, the ledge grab doesn't work.

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PRinceBhai
PRinceBhai

You need to learn to How to merge DECORATE and zScript code.

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Colerx
Colerx

In coop game goes out of sync when ledgegrabbing, could you please make it compatible with gzdoom coop?

Thanks

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Mechanical-Sanity Author
Mechanical-Sanity

I have no idea how to do that, since I don't work with multiplayer. But like I said, it edits the base player class, so anything that modifies that, is almost certainly breaking something

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Sraigius95
Sraigius95

Very buggy mod. Lots of weapons cause your entire inventory to disappear when you try to climb the ledge, effectively breaking your game until you reload the save file. I tried playing this mod with two specific brutal doom builds,
Vanilla BD with ProfessorExistential's Tomtefars+EWM+ManofHell V 4.0 mod which is https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/profexistentials-tomtefarsewmmanofhell . And another attempt was playing purely with the latest version of Tomtefar's extension.

In the case of the first build (professorexistential's mod), lots of weapons allow you to climb ledges correctly, but quite a lot of weapons tend to break your game. Those weapons are revolver, dual revolvers, spider mastermind autocannon, M32 grenade launcher, railgun, BFG 9000, M4 shotgun. Yeah that's quite a lot.

On the other hand, in Tomtefar's extension climbing ledges breaks the game with ALL THE WEAPONS. Every single one of them.

And these are not some obscure, unpopular BD forks either. These are one of the most popular BD mods on this website. Very inconsiderate of you to not provide properly debugged variants for specific brutal doom forks. Not good.

I'm giving 6/10 purely for effort and nothing more than that at its current state. I cannot, in good conscience, recommend this mod to anyone that wants to play anything else other than vanilla BD v21.

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Dox778
Dox778

It is very clearly stated in the description that this does not work with BD addons that mess with Player.txt or DefaultWeapon.txt, which both addons you mentioned do change, hence the possible incompabilities and errors.
Despite that, you still loaded them together and expected it to work perfectly fine. So that's on you.
Why does it matter than they are "the most popular" addons for BD? That doesn't mean Mechanical will now make versions for every single brutal doom addon possible - even if he did, you'd probably still end up messing it up, judging by how you like to load incompatible files with eachother.
Everyone would appreciate if you stopped loading files to explicitly not be loaded together and expect miracles - instead what you could do is learn how to mod and make them work together yourself.

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Sraigius95
Sraigius95

Couldn't expect a more tone-deaf response. But then again, considered who has responded i'm not surprised.

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Mechanical-Sanity Author
Mechanical-Sanity

I'm sorry, what about that response is tone-deaf? He explained clearly and concisely about what your problem is, and he also commented on how rude and demanding you have been. I have wrote in the readme that this will not work with other mods that change the player file, so the rest would be up to you. I have read other comments that you have made, and noticed a consistent pattern of entitlement. This was something I just whipped up because it was fun. It is not my job to maintain it, nor is it the job of other modders to follow your every whim. And while Dox778 might have been too nice to say it, I do not have the same level of patience: You're a d***

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Droscoe
Droscoe

Great mod. Thanks for creating this.

I won't be using it however. I've decided to play with the most "up to date" version of BrutalDoom, which is technically BDExpansion (v21.11.1)

I'd say it would be great if this were compatible with it, but regardless...obviously the "mainstream" Brutal Doom is, and has been for a long time now, v20.

And it works like a charm for v20 BrutalDoom.

Although I will be playing with v21.11.1, I still wanted to drop in and say I really liked this mod and thank you for making it for v20!

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