The war of the valar will bring to life the first, second, and early third ages of arda with new factions like the eldar, dunedain, khazad, and angband. New spell tree abilities will be added as well as an improved ai system, and a new hero system. The new hero system will only take place in the new skrimish trigger maps.The map will consist of 3 silmarils. Once these silmarils are brought to a maia of players that team (i.e. Sauron, gandalf, etc) they will be able to call forth an ainur such as manwe or melkor.

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Poll: Should yavanna be included as a unit thay cannot attack or be attacked, seeing as how she was peaceful, but be able to create things such as entmoots? (15 votes)
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zezkersar
zezkersar Leader
Mar 13 2013 Anchor

Which heroes?

Mar 14 2013 Anchor

Hi, as heroes you could have :-
1 )Fingolfin
2 )Finarfin
3 )Finrod Felagund
4 )Turgon
5 )Maedhros
6 )Thingol
7 )Galadriel
8 )Gil-Galad
9 )Celeborn
10 )Elrond
As Maia it should be:- Melian
Ring Hero:- Gil-Galad or Elrond
The Eldar were confused about what to do with the Silmarils some said they should be given to the Valar others said they should not give them away.
Thus the Silmaril Hero depending on their choice could be:- Manwe or Fëanor

Edited by: Eoreds

zezkersar
zezkersar Leader
Mar 15 2013 Anchor

That is a great list of heroes you have there sir. I was personally thinking fingolfin should be the ring hero, seeing that he was capable of fighting morgoth and mortally woinding him, unlike the other elves. As for silmaril hero, i agree with manwe seeing that angband get melkor. i think the men will get tulkas, and the dwarves, aule, their creator.

I can also see why gil-galad should be, seeing as they were present for the last alliance and could have actually possesed it, unlike feanor or fingolfin.

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Mar 16 2013 Anchor

i like the idea about Yavanna but you should be able to attack her

zezkersar
zezkersar Leader
Mar 19 2013 Anchor

There you have it. We actually need her to be able to be attacked. Because if she couldn't be, the enemy team could never win ;)

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Mar 20 2013 Anchor

Hi sorry had exams and couldn't check the site.
I would also like to suggest that you put in Cirdan & Beleg.
I understand that you want Fingolfin as ring hero because of his strength but I feel It's against the lore.
About the Silmaril hero, Manwe should be one but I think they should have a choice between Manwe and Fëanor because of what's written in the Silmarillion.
Men could have Ulmo as per me because Numenor was a island and they were closely associated to the sea and the seas were kept calm by Ulmo when the men travelled from Middle-Earth to Numenor. I agree about the dwarves though Aule should be their Silmaril hero considering that he was their creator and the only Vala to have any contact with them.

Edited by: Eoreds

zezkersar
zezkersar Leader
Mar 26 2013 Anchor

So should all factions have two choices?
Eldar, feanor and manwe
Men, Tulkas and ulmo
Dwarves, Aile and who else?
Angband, morgoth and gothmog maybe?

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Mar 30 2013 Anchor

Well it would be fun to have a choice.
Eldar as you said could have Fëanor and Manwe.
Men could have Ulmo and Ar Pharazon the Golden (set sail to conquer Valinor).
Dwarves could get Aule and Mim (became spiteful).
Angband could get Melkor and Ungoliant (she nearly got the Silmarils from Melkor).

It would be interesting to be able to get a Silmaril hero who is either a Valar or a character who wanted to go against their Master, and then the player gets advantages and disadvantages according to their choice.

zezkersar
zezkersar Leader
Mar 31 2013 Anchor

Interesting idea, I will bring it up in the mod team discussions xD

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Apr 5 2013 Anchor

about yavanna she should have at least two powers to defend her self like

level 1 : entangled roots : summons large roots that entangle and kill enemies with in

level 4 : fruit of Yavanna : summons a large plant with leaves on the bottom and a pear like fruit hanging from it the plant heals allies but poisons near by enemies

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