This total-conversion mod takes the Battle for Middle-earth II to the Fifth Century BCE, replacing the original content with two new, fully-fledged factions: Sparta and Athens. Completely new content, strategies and more awaits you. This project is brought to you by Kwen, Matias, Lauri, njm1983, Glaeken and Mike who are hosted at the3rdage.net, a division of revora.net.

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Foxhounde
Foxhounde

Death to Sparta! Long Live Athens!

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STOKK-E
STOKK-E

Athens wont stand a chance against Sparta.

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The_Drunken_Whaler
The_Drunken_Whaler

Wait until you see their fleet

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Aubesangante
Aubesangante

So ? This is not 300 plus if you show only the defeat : En.wikipedia.org .

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Kwen
Kwen

Keep in mind, this isn't a 300 mod. So just because they're "Spartans" does not mean they're all-powerful super soldiers of Greece. Their Hoplites will be stronger then the Athenian counterpart, but only by a slight bit. And they will definitely have the most powerful infantry units in the game. However, they lack diversity in their units, and unless the fight is a straight forward spear-and-shield match it is likely that the Spartans would lose the fight.

I think, (and with good reasoning) that playing as Sparta and winning would be far more difficult to master then playing with Athens.

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CastorFIN
CastorFIN

actually Spartan professional infantry was way better organized, and trained than the Athenian amateur one. this is like saying that the tower guard and an orc band in BFME II are almost equal. the weak point of spartan army actually was the lack of spartans, most of their armies were men from neighboring areas, allies and conquered people.

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CastorFIN
CastorFIN

the phalanx they used was not the macedonian one but greek, which is essentially more adaptable, also Spartan soldier was WAY more adaptable than any other in greece.

so thus us what I suggest:

make Spartan Hoplite Unit

1.VERY expensive
2.VERY restricted by amount and availability
3.make it OP, and very much of it, this unit should be able to take Cavalry down VERY easily, also any Infantry shouldnt be able to stand against it. due to heavy armor it should be able to hold against arrows for a LONG time, also the speed should be as quick or even quicker than the athenian one, for this is professional infantry and they should have the physical strenght matching it, as well as the organization, meaning that they dont need to stop too many times on a march to reorganize. also Athens was richer meaning they had better equipment, heavier equipment.

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M!ke Creator
M!ke

Agreed. They'll be very one-dimensional and not very mobile, but will be beastly when used correctly.

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