Comments - Felinewolfie

Personally, I think T34's should be able to take on Gato Class, no?
As in USS Gato :) Look it up :) (Hint : Silent Service).

- But I'm right! :)
- Why didn't T34 conquer Germany, France, Great Britain, Japan AND
America back in 1940? If the T34 was so powerful, it ought to be able
to take on Missouri Class BB's one on one, and win every single time :D

- Yes! We ought to be able to have Commonwealth (Royal Canadian Artillery) vs Soviets! Yeah! :D Should be fun, with no retreat available
:D
- Communist : Yes! I want to know too! When can we lay on hands on it?
Developpers won't say!
- Bloody_Hell : I don't like stalin :) But I am okay with Russians.
: Well, the T34's real adversary was the P3L which although it had
a 50mm gun, it was long barelled and had an AT role :)
: Pz4 was a SUPPORT tank with slow 75mm (NOT 76mm) and mostly HE.
Yes, it's 40mm 90' armor sucked. Its thin treads sucked too.
: The T34's real advantage was mobility!! Which was, er, godly awesome
: Look, russians had tons of T26, T34 and some Kv1 at start of war
got attacked by LESS german tanks and still got their butt kicked.
Soviet union lost 1/2 of territory (2/3 industrial, 43% agricultural)
: YES! They did catch up, and the soviet army of late 1945 was NOTHING
like that of 1940-1941 :) THAT is the real miracle.
: It's called KINETIC energy. Pz4 short was support HE platform.
Doesn't count. Compare to Pz3L (Superior optics again)(Accuracy)
FASTER firing speed (I mean reload time, not shell acceleration).
: Sure, come visit :) Got tons of books, and we can argue around
Pizza and Beer ! :) (Or my homemade ravioli, lol).
- I make my own sauce! :)

- Hmm, I've been saying ALL along that conscripts should be crappy.
Like Volks, early Riflemen, leaderless unupgraded Tommies, etc

Regulars are a completely different story.

- As for T34, I'm talking about the T34/39-40. did you know some had
a 45mm gun? (I want T26 too BTW!!!), anyhow, the T34/39-40 was keeping
company to the Crusader, The StuB (not StuG3), and the snub Pz4.
It was awesome for it's time, but quite crappy compared to the
magnificent T34/44-45/85 A lot of Soviet tanks didn't have camouflage
paint, a lot of Soviet tanks didn't have gunnery optics, heck, some
didn't have paint, period. The optics were a piece of class with lines
of chalk across :p Now... a 2009 variant of the T34 might be ...
quite different...

I want Pz3, I want T26 and BT tanks! Ura! Ura! aha ;)
- Mein Kampf? "My way" I... don't think Hitler wrote anything
about T34 in Mein Kampf, no...
- I've been to Arcangel and moscow, and yess I've visited many
awesome museum of WW2. and yes, I DID visit a T34 :) So nyeh ;)
And assorted other tanks as well.

- I still want the Pz3 and the T26 :)
- Everything I see on the history channel *IS* a fact :D
- Come visit me in Canada :) I have a great many books on the topic :)
You'll teach me proper russian, and I'll teach you french and decent
english ;)

So, yes. Kv1/T34 way more armor than Pz3/Pz4/StuB Optics were ****,
turrent accomodations were crap. So germans had the advantage of :
1) Better alloys, 2) More range, 3) WAY more experience 4) Flak88
as AT! 5) Better tactics 6) Stalin killing or locking up all his best
generals (all of them, almost, period), 7) Surprise...

T34 had advantage of WAY better HE characteristics on it's 76mm
cannon than that of german tanks, ease of manufacture (It was a simple
tank), DIESEL fuel and oils that didn't freeze in winter (Russians
were kinda used to the cold? hehe) HORRIBLE turret inner configuration
(They were slow to reload and couldn't long range aim for ****).
The optics were sometimes a piece of glass with CHALK crosshairs!!
And WAY weaker machine-guns (Germans had 2-3 machine guns with 150
ammo clips, T34 had 1 DP60 with 60 ammo clip)

45mm slanted armor was proof against 50mm high velocity guns, or
75mm low velocity guns (StuB/Early Pz4).

Yes, it got numerous upgrades, and the T34/85 had better armor,
better gun AND better turret. But was slower, and somewhat too
heavy, so it could bog down, while the earlier T34s were famous
for being unboggable. The T34/85 had better turret accomodation
(extra crew for reloading) so ROF (rate of fire was better).
Optic was still ****** per German standards, but at 10-on-1 ratio,
that didn't matter :)

: People like to say that French = We surrender. But seriously, French had way more troops, more tanks, about same planes, HEAVIER tanks. And don't forget, MOST OF THE $#@(* whole british army was there too. And Hitler didn't even use all his forces, and still crushed them in 4 days.

No Mp44 in those days. No Panthers, No Tiger, No KING Tiger.
88mm Flak was there, though. Nice, evil, powerful.
Superior tactics.

: As for being anti-soviet, all I am saying is that they are Zergs.
No, not hydralisks. Conscripts are Zerglings!! :) But, yes, they
can work up to ULTRALISKS!... But the point is that there is no
point in WartyX and etc to design a soviet faction if they would
lose easily to German. UNITS are INDIVIDUALLY weaker, yes. Same as
Zerg vs Protoss. / But reinforcements/units cost less, and you get
a LOT more of them.

I *WANT* to play soviet and kick german butt (as well as the contrary)

I am merely warning that I don't want Soviet to be overpowered
(Protoss unit strenght, Zerg numbers). Or ... UNDERpowered (Zerg
unit strenght, Protoss numbers).

They should be DIFFERENT from other armies as well, enough to make it
interesting, without feeling like they are only re-skins.

- I agree with everything WartyX said. Individually weaker, but more
troops. - ESPECIALLY - conscripts? Hey all armies have 'em
: PE : 3 men squad at first, add1 (4+sarge)+weaponup
: US : Riflemen no BAR, lots of addons, Rangers, Paratroopers.
: We : Volkstruppen no MP40 (Or grenades!), Grenadiers, Sturmtruppen,
KNC
: Bri: No officer tommy. Without addon. Slowww. Shitttyy
Commandos! :)
Why shouldn't the initial russian troop be weaker than Guards?
Or even Regulars?

- And, yes, I know. The soviet army was getting ready to invade
Europe riiiight when Hitler struck them. There was a LOT of paratrooper
forces, too, with pamphlets saying in German to surrender. Give up.

That's when Stalin - ONE - of his big officer purges. He'd locked up
the best generals. So the army was leaderless when the Germans struck.
(Operation Barbossa)
- Fighter pilots, Bomber pilots were a LOTTTT more skilled/experienced.
- Russian tanks better, fine. Soviet had even sent observer in Wehr
factories, etc, wanted to see 'their biggest tank' upon being shown
the Pz4, he flew into a rage. YOU LIE!!!
Wasn't a lie :)
- But germany - easily - crushed France who had BETTER TANKS, MORE
TANKS, MORE PLANES (French army was combined with British Army too)
Lots of Hurricanes, etc, British tanks. Got crushed in 4 days.
88mm Flak used in AT role, and first time use of Dive bombers in
support role, as well as the Blitkrieg tactics, all this made the
difference.
- That's fine, english is not my first language either!! :D

Mosin nagan rifle and revolver were BELGIUM derived.
T-34s used the Christy suspension - Not soviet.
First Soviet tanks used Vickers machine guns.
Soviet tanks used - clearly VERY ****** - optics.
YES! They had higher caliber than anyone else
(76mm vs 50mm and 90-122mm vs 75-88mm) but was it because of

... Why am I arguing with you?

- And no... I said UBERmennen. Not UNTERmennen.
In the chess context, you were saying soviets had 36 pieces, all of
which ought to be queens, to the German's norman chess set of 1.
And how it shouldn't be a battle of skill, but an historical one!!
- I was being sarcastic. Saying you're right! All soviet troops were
80 foot tall iron gods! Because they're uber. I was sarcastic AT you.

What's wrong? Can't handle an equal fight? :)

- Now, I'm not saying soviets should automatically lose.
I think they should be more like Zergs, and the Germans like Protoss.
... But strenghts and weaknesses being different, both having an
hopefully equal chance to win, to be decided by the player.

And I WANT to play Soviet. AND against them. It's chess damn it!

No retreats. Because they don't NEED to. And every fight would be
an automatic Russian victory within the first 20 seconds.

...

I was essentially being ironic as to your - obviously - slanted
opinions :) Can't you see sarcasm when you see it?

I loved playing IL2 Sturmovik, Panzer General2, COD1,2, 4 and 5.
(In 4 I play russians (Well, anything really), in 5, etc, same.
I'll play german. I'll play soviet campaign in Axis n' Allies, I'll
play soviet - and anything else - in any game.

I want a good game of chess.

You want an auto soviet victory because soviets are the best.

No, who is racist?

- Small note : I also suggested conscripts to morph into regulars
once they had acquired sufficient experience. And that soviet troops
be permitted to retreat - yes, to be shot at by base defenses. That
they ought to have AT grenades, etc. Is that anti soviet?

- We got TONS of bears walking in the streets and eating garbage here,
in Canada.
- It's STEAL our victory. Not steel.
- As a matter of fact, I've forever been fascinating with WW2 history.
My grandpa was in the RCAF and fought the battle of britain, africa
and Italy campaigns.
- I love COH as a CHESS game. I love WW2 games, and as thus, I obviously would love Soviet forces which are balanced, different and interesting to play. I love StarCraft 1 (And can't wait for 2) for the
very same reasons.

As a chess game, they ought to be pros and cons. Russian army was more
numerous, but ought to be less quality than german forces. Same with US vs Wermacht. KCH are 3 men, Grenadiers 4 and Volks 5 and Riflemen are 6.
If we put conscripts at 8, no, they should be not KHC right off the bat.

They ought to have severe limitations, which they compensate with
numbers.

In chess-like terminology, you were saying there were no pawns in
the soviet army. Only Queens, as Soviets were clearly superior in every
way to everyone else on earth. Fine. 8 troop conscripts which each
the strenght of a full squad of KHC. I'm sorry, but, they'd thus be
more expensive. In that context, then, yea, their replenishments shouldn't be free (you didn't want them to be free). So, fine, if they're all queens. I suggest 1800 manpower initial cost and 450 MP
cost - per man - replenishment. (They're 8 men queens afterall).

80 foot tall, iron, firebreathing, invulnerable and fireproof godzilla
ubermennen. Who can pick up King Tigers with their bare hands and
swing them about by the cannon like baseball bats, and crush infantry
beneath their iron boots.

And he is right. Soviet troops being in the best there is ought to
cost 450+ manpower per man - to reinforce. And much higher to buy in
the first place. Like 1800 manpower for a single squad of conscripts?
But they would be able to use the King Tiger like a baseball bat,
swinging it about by holding on to it's cannon with their bare hands.

And be bulletproof, and fireproof. Realism, after all, must be
maintained :)

(They're 'ubermennen!' The master race) :)

- They'd of course be 80 feet tall per man. Showing proper
stature for their many skills and talents :)

- I feel they ought to be able to retreat. They'd just have to face
the consequences - Being shot down by officers (Base defenses). But this
would deny XP to the german enemies :)

- Not the easy eight sherman, or 105mm sherman, of course...
but JaegerPanzer would be nice.
- What vehicles will soviets be using for a HT/Truck, and jeep?
I would suggest a truck that gives new troops for free, but is, itself
unarmored. No?

- I'm pulling your leg, dude :) Although I was tempted as hell to
say something to the effect of : Well, nice to have 'Ostheer' but, see,
I'd like a *GERMAN* faction, for east front, y'see... :)
- When can we try out the soviet faction? It's been 2 yrs :)
- WILL there be winter maps?
- The BoB map not only has snow on ground, it has snow as WEATHER.
I WANT that, I NEED that :)
- Europe in Ruins and BoB both have TONS of new models could you
steal any? :) If you ask them nicely, that is :)

: What about my mobile Howitzer idea? :)

Will there be a new german army?
I'd really like if Stuka planes came and blow up russian tanks :)

- How about making in-game artillery MOBILE... ? :)
Like the Lehr18 not USA/Brit Howitzers, hmm, something that turns into
a truck when it moves? / Or like PAK, but slower / Or attachable to the
HT?
- I'd like if Russians had a truck like the Opel (forgot name Z something) instead of HT for battlefield replenishment of troops?
Might make it free, that'd be an interesting difference :)

personally, I think molotov coktails AND FLAMETHROWER engineers
should affect tanks... sigh. But that's just me :)

Could give Russians the Jeep. They got plenty from lend-lease.
Just limit it to 3 Max, or something, as it's not russian-made
(although they did get the license).
Side note :
personally, I think molotov coktails AND FLAMETHRWER engineers
should affect tanks... sigh. But that's just me :)

Eh. He's partly right there. Russians had 45mm AT. If Germans Wehr have 50mm, I mean, cmon. / Even Americans got 57mm. And you'd give 76mm AT
to the russians as standard?

As for artillery, well, there's the Katchuya (PLEASE limit the max amount, as those are simply god-powerful. To 2 like Allied or 4?)
Or simply make Heavy Mortars be the artillery :) Mobile, vulnerable,
powerful for a mortar?

As for other 'real' artillery. The Wehr use 200mm arty as doctrine
off-map. Should be the same for the ML20 gun Howitzer, I feel.
(Same for americans, a short range static Howitzer is meep, sigh).