All of the thanks to goes to Carnius for a great mod, I am thankful that you are kind enough to make this for me and the rest of the CNC community, without caring about any kind of pay or reimbersment. I and, I believe the rest of the CNC community really just want to say, THANKS CARNIUS! and thank you for coming to TEF.
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Dec 25 2011 Anchor | |
Ok, so I know alot of people were quite skeptical when Carnius decided to change the Nod 'Venom' into the Rotorblade 'Harpy MKII', and I myself shared some of that skepticism. However I do understand Carnius's desire to make the unit a little less high-tech, considering that is it a tier 2 unit. Still.. I thought going completely back to traditionel heli-rotorblade design was a bit too much. -- I live for Kane, and I die for Kane. The difference is trivial. |
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Dec 26 2011 Anchor | ||
Well that idea is pretty nice but i think Carnius will not change it now as the mod is probably almost done... and i dont really care, Harpy is just a light helicopter it doesnt need any special technology and it succesor of odl harpy that had one rotor too... I just dont like the original venom too much, i wanted it to look more "serious" like this Moddb.com |
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Dec 26 2011 Anchor | |
You are probably right in terms of completion. I too suspect the mod will be coming out any minute now -- I live for Kane, and I die for Kane. The difference is trivial. |
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Dec 26 2011 Anchor | |
it was also possible for the harpy to have "no tail" rotors. 2 on the top, one turns the normal way, the other one below it opposite direction. anyway, i also like the idea of Valdo. prefer the TE version... for now. --
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Dec 26 2011 Anchor | ||
Thanks for your appreciation guys if i remmember right at first Carnius wanted to make som totaly new design.. something.. original.. for him my concept was too Orca-ish and he was right but who doesnt like orcas yeah ? btw if i think about it.. Kamov KA50 is my most favorite heli... hmm.. we will see what future comes with |
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Dec 26 2011 Anchor | |
Well I think your design is the best. But of course, if Carnius wills it differently, it shall rightfully be so! -- I live for Kane, and I die for Kane. The difference is trivial. |
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Dec 26 2011 Anchor | ||
Has anybody here played Crysis 2? If so look at the CELL chopper. It has a double rotor where one spins one way and the other spins the other way. It also has no tail rotor and does look quite advanced. |
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Feb 2 2012 Anchor | ||
Nah it would look like the hammer head from (KW). |
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Oct 12 2012 Anchor | ||
nothing wrong with rotor blades they look cool, the thing is with technology if it works well it doesnt tend to get changed |
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Oct 13 2012 Anchor | ||
As for the Harpy, I really do like and welcome Carnius' new model and don't have a problem with it having a rotor blade (the original in TS did also, after all), but I also thought the original venom was fine too and kinda sad to see it go. Here is my proposal for people who like Carnius' model and VTOL: What if his current Harpy had a relatively cheap upgrade, say at the Airfield, where it upgrades it to VTOL that increases it's speed (nerf the original speed a bit so when it's upgraded, it's similar to how it is now) and some other benefit(s) (eg: at the click, allow it to hide from radar for a period of time since it'll be more silent and/or because it will essentially be more agile in the air with VTOL, allow it to better resist anti-air attacks). So when the upgrade is complete, the rotor blades will disappear and the VTOL turbines will appear on either side of the craft (the other upgrade module on the wings will have to be moved to accommodate this new upgrade), which will have it look something similar to the venom again. If not for this idea, I'd just prefer that he keeps it as it is with the rotors - he worked hard at it and so to me this unit has earned its place in the mod. But is it just me, or does anyone else think the rotor sound effect in the game is at times a bit too loud in comparison to the other surrounding sounds? Just so long as it isn't louder than the current Firehawk's engine sound effect. Btw, I too actually liked the dual rotorblades found on the Hammerhead. I thought it looked unique, futuristic enough and definitely plausible. It isn't necessary to do this, but here's my idea of bringing this in again if anyone is interested. Do I dare say, take away the Nightwind Transport's VTOL ability and replace it with a rotorblade at the end of each main wing, thus giving it a similar Hammerhead look (plus it'd also look similar to the V-22 Osprey that I like) - I think it would look really good. So with this same upgrade that I mentioned earlier for the Harpy, it'd also affect the Nightwind, making it look just as it does now with VTOL (again, make its original speed a little less). But then the stealth would have to go (for it to make sense) if it originally has the rotorblades, so maybe through some other cheap upgrade at the Airfield (after first getting the VTOL upgrade), it can get its Stealth mode (back). This is just a thought for those who really liked the dually rotorblades, otherwise let's leave this alone. What are your thoughts? Edited by: .Mac. |
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Oct 14 2012 Anchor | ||
Harpy already has 2 upgrades (anti-infantry laser and microwave emitter), a 3rd would be unnecessary in my view, also there are enough things without rotor baldes, remember nod is always a mix of old and new tech and the attack-heli gives a nice flavour. Re: Nightwind Rotor blades might look very cool but i dont like the idea of it losing stealth, given that its weaponless would make it a sitting duck. If it where to have rotors AND be stealthed perhaps it would make too much noise and give itself away, so mixed feelings about this suggestion. |
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Oct 14 2012 Anchor | ||
Well the main point of my previous post was to satisfy both sides of the table regarding the rotors/VTOL tech for Harpy - people who favored one way or the other will have both for their Harpy. The simple "off radar" ability was just an added suggestion to sweeten the deal with the upgrade, so it wouldn't need that added bonus then if people feel it's unnecessary. I agree with you, M0Nkfish, it gives a nice "flavour" to the atmosphere if we still had some "tried and true" conventional tech only 30yrs from now, such as rotors (that's also why I wouldn't want all weapons to be lasers and all units to hover, so I welcome the Harpy's design and conventional tech), because I also agree Nod likes to use conventional tech with their advanced tech - hence the idea of Nightwind having dual rotors (but then upgradable to VTOL along with the Harpy). That was an idea for anyone such as myself and 55blahh55 who liked the Hammerhead rotors, so others could possibly build off of that idea and make it more refined. I'd prefer the Nightwind kept its stealth too (that's why I suggested that it have an (inexpensive) upgrade ability to get stealth back, so it won't be a sitting duck), but just thought it might be kinda weird if had stealth while having rotors. |
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