Hi everyone!
This time, we made a special treat for all of you. Before showing renders with descriptions as usual, we put a bit more effort and made little trailer video about this update.
CAUTION!
Holding onto something while watching video is highly recommended, due to much awesomeness which causes your ass falling on the ground!
Now, let's explain what we saw.
- first, there is a new cool thing for Laser general. His Power Plant structures got unique upgrade, Laser Fences which can be upgraded from rank1. Laser fences will protect Power Plants from sabotage, and capturing by killing any infantry which comes very close. It also provides additional health to structure. But upgrade is not cheap, and drains one power point.
- defense cores are special vehicle units for Super Weapon general, which can be produced from Command Center. From left to the right, Patriot, Ion and Grendel. As we saw in video, they can be deployed in their respective defense structures. Their cost is equal to defense structure and half of the Dozer price. In balance order, they are vulnerable, and especially in deploying phase which takes around 7 seconds. Defense cores are great at reducing micro, and capturing more zones on map. Carrying them by Chinook and deploying multiple at the same time, is much easier than building each structure with one Dozer.
- Atlas defense structure is already shown:
Atlas defense
And now you saw it in game, with new weapon projectiles.
- Weather manipulation device, is actually replacement for Blackout Missile System. More or less, it acts the same, but more visual effect is given, and will be even more. It also deals a bit more damage.
- Thing which is not shown in video, is Gatling addon for Patria
In order to balance Infantry vs. Airforce matchup, minigun upgrade for minigunners is moved to rank 3, while Gatling upgrade affects Machinegun Patria both visually and with firepower.
And last but not least, is visual improvement on all USA structures, thanks to PredatorBG who took some time and effort to improve them for all of us
We would also like to thank Hecthor Doomhammer who gave great review of Contra mod.
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That's it for this update, see you soon!
nice stuff....
Yey more stuff for my favorite, and probably the most OP, general in this mod. Nice work on those defense core animations, they look really cool! It does bug me that the cores are a bit too big for the command center garage though. That laser fence upgrade was something I've been meaning to add to one of my mods as well, nice to see that the concept actually works! The atlas projectile looks a bit too small, and I'm not really liking the weather control device design, but all in all, nice update, love the editing that went into the video :)
Thanks Zeke!
Dont worry, our "special department" works very hard and every day on balancing issues :)
Yeah, i know, they are just a little bit bigger than they should be.
As for laser fence, we encountered 1/10 situations where soldier is not killed when trying to capture it, but this can be adjusted with code i think.
Nice idea with presentation videos, keep it up! I quite like the new superweapon and defence cores, though I'd prefer if they would deploy not into standard defences but into some special versions of them which would keep design elements of the mobile versions. Does the laser fence also kill infantry passing by, or only those who attempt to capture or infiltrate the building?
It kills every infantry which comes really close. Something like china mine, but with super small radius and very high damage.
Kool, new stuffs!
Looking great! I love the defense cores!
Do you have any plans to change the way demolition general mine-laying works? Having multiple mine types spread among units in addition to the standard build-able mines is a bit confusing. Would it make more sense to have a single dedicated mine-laying unit that can place/build demo traps, minefields, cluster mines, AT mines, etc?
Demo general gets more mines now, with dead units. When scorpion dies from enemy fire, he leaves ground demo charge, when quad dies, leaves AA mine, and maybe other units will leave mines too. So, you can spam battlefield with mines simply by playing normally with units.
Looks great. Also i wanna give some feedback and suggestion but keep in mind im only playing single player.
+500$(half of dozer?) on defences a bit much much imo. It would be ok, if they can turn into vehichle mode back and deploy elsewhere. That also will give great base crawl opportunity.
SW is my most favored general in challange but ion energy plants really annoy me. You have keep spamming those whole game since SW one of most power hunger generals. So i got 2 different suggestions:
1)upgrade-able plants: pretty straightforward, for some bucks their output will increase in drawback of losing empower ability and explodes more violently
2)synergetic plants: when there is another plant near an ion plant, it will produce +1 energy more. This prob needs to be capped at +5 energy. Ex: if build 6 plants together they will generate 60 energy in total. So player have to choose whether he/she divide them for safety, empower coverage or stick them for more energy but more vulnerablity vs. Aoe strikes
Defense Cores are still being tested. However, they will definitely cost more than defenses built by dozers.
Ion Plants already produce more power than before. It was 3 points, now it's 4. After rank 3, Strategy Center generates 30 power points (60 in Beta 1) and you can buy the Solar Panels upgrade. That's enough considering power is one of Super Weapon's weaknesses. We did not like how easily she could maintain power, so not all changes are supposed to buff a general. On the other side, while producing less power, Ion Plants allow the player to build power faster (in case of low power). Multiplayer matches feel more balanced because she has more mobility than before and creating a strong defense line takes more time + money. All she could do before is turtle and hope the enemy did not attack undefended flanks early game because she could not recover. And there was the overpowered case where if she was not being attacked frequently enough, she became almost undefeatable by one enemy, and that encouraged passive gameplay, which is not supposed to be rewarding. So, she was either too weak or too strong.
Super Weapons was probably the easiest general to play with in Challenge because of her defensive play style. However, she's better in player matches now.
The second suggestion cannot be implemented in Generals.
Awesome! I'm looking forward to the final version :)
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contra009_beta2
im not able to play 1 full game
it keeps crashing
plz help me
i play with friends and bots combiined
it crashes
The next version will contain numerous fixes including some crash and mismatch issues caused by errors in the mod's code.
I discovered a weird bug when I was playing the Stealth Challenge today. I used Jarmen Kell to snipe an enemy vehicle when that vehicle was right next to my super unit, and my super unit was sniped along with that vehicle as a result (i.e. the super unit became neutral). After that, the arms dealer allowed me to build another super unit, and after I used a soldier to enter the sniped super unit I ended up having two super units at the same time despite the supposed limit of one super unit in challenges. In that case, a player may be able to exploit the bug to have more than one super units at the same time. (Although it should be extremely difficult to carry out for generals other than Stealth and perhaps not so easy to execute in multiplayer games.)
That must be a very rare sight. It happened because Jarmen Kell's "Kill Vehicle Crew" weapon has a damage radius. It is already removed though. It wasn't good, because Jarmen could snipe multiple vehicles exiting a tunnel with one shot. From the next release on, you won't be seeing this happen.
Latest Origin Update Made Contra 009 Unplayable. Been Playing fine till latest forced origin update. Now cannot Use contra
We have no control over Origin. You can try using a "No-CD crack" and installing Contra manually. It could be a solution, but I have not tested it.
Hey guys ! Looks like new update will be awesome! I just want to write here my thoughts, about improvments, I`ve been looking for some vids, from other mods, such as Firestorm, and sudenly I remembered already dead Project Raptor, and noticed, that visual effects (rockets, bullets, smoke after bullets, explosions etc) in them more interesting, and it will be great if you improve effects in Contra, in future.
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Hi! I've just realised...does Atmospheric lens is the best way to realize Flame's superweapon? Don't you think this power (especially the way it looks in game)...I really can't find the right words, probably it's not Flame's style.
I wonder why you realize this just now. You need to realize that we can't please everyone. One person will agree with you, another person will hate you for bashing his favourite Atmo Lens. Atmospheric Lens represents Flame general much better than the Nuclear Missile and it's enough for it to stay. Do not expect all generals to go with stereotype stuff (yes, it should have been a napalm strike to represent the word "flame" better, duh, we should've thought of that). People like Contra for its uniqueness.
We have plans to replace Particle Cannon for Cyber. We're two developers and we have to manage our work priorities. Things like super weapon and super unit concepts are set in stone. Nobody will go back to spend more time on something finished. I'll take your comment as a personal thought. BTW, if you play Contra regularly, come join Discord: Discord.gg
two questions:
1) when are you all going to fix the irritating coding bug with squid drone that crashes contra 009 beta 2?
2) when release date??
1) It is already fixed. You can download this patch: Moddb.com
2) Release date is unknown.
1)uh you sure about that? i tried the fix. it's still the same :(
could it be the fix is for 009 beta and not for 009 beta 2?
The fix is for 009 Beta 2 and it works, but you probably did something wrong.
Now do this:
1. Download Cdn.discordapp.com
2. Put it in your ZH folder where Contra is installed.
3. Add two exclamation marks ("!!") in front of the filename.
put the two exclamation marks before the contra part of the file?
Love this mode very much. It looks like more awesome things are coming. I have a suggestion: In usa air force general there are buttons on the right that select all aircraft of the type on click.That really bothers me. It would be great to have a button with textbox to select specified aircraft with desired numbers, thanks.
What you suggest is not possible to implement.
I dont understand why that is not possible sir. Say i have 10 F35 fighters. Then there should be a f35 image button. What i want is a textbox or edittext or spinbox that can a number entered. Say i enter 5 and click f35 button there should be 5 f35 selected whose health and ammo is highest
Believe me when I'm telling you. I'm a Generals modder and I know there is no such possibility in the game. It is only possible to select all units of a type, nothing more. Ask any other modder if your suggestion is possible to implement.
how can i download thias ?
By using a time machine.
There seems to two problems regarding challenges when playing as the Infantry general and the Toxin general. For the Infantry general, every time after I select the Infantry training General's Power, the infantries do not start as veterans and the general's point is therefore wasted. For the Toxin general, it seems that both the Toxin pump and the Palace share the same hotkey (i.e. "p"), and therefore it is impossible to use hotkeys when building a Palace.
Already reported and fixed.
This one is my favourite mod. Can't wait for the final version..
My observations
* Stealth General challenge crashes 10-15 mins into the game.
* Infantry general's super tank doesn't really attack.
* Demo general's super tank is kind of useless, it simply gets itself killed most of the time.
* AI could be a little more smarter with their use of super tanks and super weapons. Also with the defenses, they keep building (especially USA) a number of defenses around Supply Centers for no reason.
* Overlord Headquarters can be built on becoming 3 star, but cannot purchase upgrades until the next level, which is pointless.
Suggestions
* Battle formation would be super cool. For ex, when attacking in large numbers, it would be great to have a spaced formation so that all your units don't die in one shot.
* Option to sell/trade units between allies (Trade - if you are playing multiplayer)
- Granger challenge crash is already fixed in 009 Final.
- Infantry general's super unit does not fire its gattling cannons when it is garrisoned with infantry. It is an unfixable glitch, so gattlings will be removed in 009 Final.
- I disagree. It's great in multiplayer when it pops out of a Sneak Attack inside an enemy base. It's the other way around - other GLA super units are too powerful, because they can enter tunnels and regain health in no time. GLA super units will be forbidden from entering tunnels except Efreet.
- AI is already better than Zero Hour in terms of attacking because it will always attack from undefended paths, but we have limited possibilities for improvements. The AI will do stupid decisions such as getting his units killed by mines around buildings, using super weapons on moving units and missing the targets, losing a super unit easily, etc... This can't be fixed. Defenses around Supply Centers can be reduced, though, and AI bugs will be fixed.
- Overlord Headquarters provides you with Overlord-class tanks discount at rank 3.
- Battle formation cannot be implemented in Generals.
- Option to trade units is also not possible to implement. Selling structures is not good for two reasons:
= You prevent enemy from gaining experience by destroying your buildings.
= You prevent enemy from using captured buildings.
Many features in Contra differ from Zero Hour in order to offer better multiplayer experience. You may not realise why many of these features were added if you never played Contra online.
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