Behold the Yuuzhan Vong Army! This mod adds the Yuuzhan Vong Race as a playable faction and all units of this era. We are a community of modders working for the greater goal, so anyone who wants to help or support us is welcome!

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Megabalta
Megabalta

That's a nice picture and an even nicer skybox.

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Kad_Venku Author
Kad_Venku

I hate to break it to you ... but that's a vanilla skybox.

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the_Farseer
the_Farseer

The og skyboxes are ***... This really isn't modified?

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Kad_Venku Author
Kad_Venku

It is not modified.
I'm literally sitting on the modified sykboxes, because I didn't have the time to put them in yet. So unless I'm sleep-programming (which would be very scary, by the way) there is no way they are in.

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Megabalta
Megabalta

Well first of all, vanilla skyboxes can be nice... it seems.
Although this one looks a bit too high def for a vanilla one. It might just be that it's just part of the screen.

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Is that a broadside cruiser from OG empire at war?

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Kad_Venku Author
Kad_Venku

No ... that's the Bayonet Corvette Hunter:
Moddb.com

That would be the Broadside:
Moddb.com

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Huh. They look kind of similar. Thanks for the clarification :)

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Nolanstar
Nolanstar

An explanation for this ship is slightly long.

For the purpose of the mod, its a Bayonet-class Corvette.
However;

There's an interesting discussion and history behind the design. But ultimately we are kinda stuck with the model bases we have available.

The common "design" used for the Bayonet is a 500-meter Pursuit-class light cruiser from the old comics. EvilleJedi when making his models assigned to kinda-unnamed PLC to the named but unpictured Bayonet. Its stuck since primarily because people are used to them being together.

Especially ironic because the PLC is actually called a pursuit-class cruiser in the comic page, and by the millennium falcon in the comic does scale to around 400-500 meters but EJ used it for the Bayonet, yet a corvette from a different comic is unnamed and fits the Bayonet's 200-meter size...

Overall. someone made a brainbug, but we're limited by time and assets.

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

The EU can be wonky at times, but its still far superior to "cannon"

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the_Farseer
the_Farseer

If the EUs biggest downfall is discrepancies in ship sizes, it's doing ok... At least it didn't kill off all it's major characters in disgrace...

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Or try to push political agendas at the cost of the story.

edit: my comment got downvoted. Looks like we got some salty lucasfilm fanboys here...

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the_Farseer
the_Farseer

Eh, I don't mind if ppl like the new canon. There are things about it which are really great (the new Darth Vader comics are a shining example). But yeah, the Lucasfilm story group and Kathleen herself are definitely agenda pushers and its really annoying. Lead females and diverse casts are fine...but tokenism and an entire side story about saving space horses from the evil capitalists is just cancer.

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

There are good things i agree, but one of the biggest turn offs for me is how most of the female characters (esoecially Rey) are super OP Mary Sues. Why cant we have good female characters like Bastilla, Ashoka, or Mara Jade?

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the_Farseer
the_Farseer

Or ventress. That's another thing...all the women are heros, while conversely, the First Order is almost all white guys. But there's no political statement there I'm sure.

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Flurn
Flurn

Well, the Empire was from it's very origins in the original trilogy a racist and sexist organization. So if there's any political statement there, it was Lucas's, and as a successor to the Empire, the First Order is just following the same logic. And not all women are heroes. Phasma is known for murdering her own people and only looking out for herself. Even betraying Brendol Hux and the First Order.

TLJ has actually become my favorite Star Wars movie, for the way it subverts expectations and breaks the formula, while also delivering a more interesting and ultimately satisfying arc for Luke. Culminating in a completely non-violent use of the force to hold single-handedly off an entire army and save the resistance is the most jedi thing ever seen in the films. But I have to admit that the detour to Canto Bight sucks, especially the reeaaally long fathier sequence.

I'm not saying everyone has to like the film or the new canon, but the anger in the fanbase and where it's directed makes me very disappointed in my fellow fans and kinda the humanity in general. Also: Mary Sue is an inherently sexist term.

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Revan5678 Creator
Revan5678

But aren't StarwarsFan21 and the_Farseer right? Especially looking at Rey.

What makes characters like Bastila and Mara so great are their journeys from their former selfes to who they are at the end of their story arcs. Initially both start out very talented but yet relatively inexperienced. Both make mistakes at times or fail missions. They learn from these mistakes and change their personalities accordingly. This is what makes them so good.

In TFA Rey has a similar past to the one Luke had in ANH. Yet, she is the pretty much flawless right from the beginning. She can protect herself, she rivals Han in his piloting skills of the falcon and on top of that seems to know more about its technichal aspects than him. Then she turns the force interrogation around and at last beats Kylo in a lightsaber duel. Granted, he was wounded but I still think that she should not have been able to do that without any training.

She would be fine, if she only had maybe two of these traits but all of them combined, make her a Mary Sue.

"Also: Mary Sue is an inherently sexist term." Is it? Mary Sue is the female version of that term. For males you have terms like Gary Stu.

I personally lost the interest in Disney Star Wars for the most part after watching TFA. Having witnessed the EU since my childhood, I was very disappointed when Disney shut it down after the takeover. I gave the new canon a chance but got a slap in the face with the TFA. They were saying, that they scrapped the EU in order to have creative freedom with the new material. The first thing they delivered was a modern take on ANH.

The new Star Wars is just not my Star Wars. I stick with the material that I enjoy may it be KOTOR, 2003 TCW, X-Wing, the new jedi order and many more. I just wish Disney would continue the EU.

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the_Farseer
the_Farseer

Flurn Address a few points here:

"Empire was from it's very origins in the original trilogy a racist and sexist organization."

Correct. The Empire was inspired by the Nazis of our real world. However, Disney has been very, very vocal about its desire to see a more diverse galaxy and has in fact, put women and POCs in the ranks of the first order. However, the leading members of the FO (Hux, Kylo, Snoke, etc) are white men. Phasma, the lone white woman, is portrayed as weak... she's to Star Wars what Kenny is to South Park. If that wasn't intentional on their part, ok, but then they simply failed in their goal by writing a bad character.

"...the way it subverts expectations and breaks the formula"

And you are 1000% entitled to that opinion and I'm glad you enjoyed the movie! Here's my hot take... Subverting expectations does not a good story make. It's a narrative tool to help tell a story, but it doesn't tell a story on it's own or automatically make your story better just for having been there. Rian overused this device and, in the opinions of many, used it wrong. He killed a beloved character in disgrace... Luke was THE icon and hero of Star Wars for so many fans. We don't mind seeing his flaws, in fact that makes him more interesting. However, we don't just see his flaws...we see him completely capitulated to them, overrun with shame and self loathing...only to die. Did it subvert our expectations, oh yes....in the worst way possible. Just like you expect you child to grow into a successful adult, only to see on the news one day that they are in jail for murder...

"Also: Mary Sue is an inherently sexist term."

Respectfully, no. Not even a little. And this is one of the issues people have with PC culture. That being, ANY form of critique or anything calling out bias is labled sexist, racist, or some kind ot "phobic". It gets really old...

Edit: For what it's worth, I will say that yes bigots and morons do exist. And yes, I do agree that sections of SW fandom have been outright cruel to Rian and Kathleen. I don't like what they've done with SW but that doesn't justify what some have done. It's a shame that all dissenters get lumped into that same, vitriolic category.

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

You are very wrong here. TLJ was a spit in the face to many star wars fans. Most of the characters are either boring or so stereotypical it hurts. Not to mention Rey is so perfect and mever fails, which is a Mary Sue. Just because ignorant feminists say Mary Sue is sexist doesnt make it true. Like Farseer said, you are entitled to your opinion. However, so are we.

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Svenwalker94
Svenwalker94

Anikan was a Bob sue in the Phantom Menace. A child who can fly extremely fast land speeders who is barely in his teens plus he can fix almost everything and Destroy a ship that not even adults can ? Discuss

Also As a legends Fan

The Dark Empire comic arc ruined Return of the Jedi if that was a movie people would complaining no end

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Anikan was talented but inexperienced. He was forced to learn how to be a mechanic because he had no other choice, he would have been sold away from his mother if he wasnt useful. Also, he can fly speeders because he is exceptionally force sensitive, enhancing his reaction time. As for the lucerhulk he destroyed, that was dumb luck. It even shows it in the movie. He was trying to fire torpedos at droids, but they went in the ventilation instead because of his inaccuracy with them.

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Svenwalker94
Svenwalker94

and rey had to fight off scavengers all her life using her staff and learnt how to use melee weapons to defend herself and learnt how to be a mechanic to know what parts she needs to scavenge, plus she is also force sensitive as well which helps
and she did make a mistake

She thought she could convince Kylo to come back to the light. Something she was prepared to die for like Luke did in ROTJ

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Im fine with her being good with staffs, and being a decent mechanic, but she picks up everything else far too quickly. Things like the mind trick require a trained jedi, but she is far to good at things she should know nothing about.

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Svenwalker94
Svenwalker94

Luke performed a force pull at the beginning of Empire and he only had like a few hours of training with obi under his belt and that was mainly basic lightsaber work

Damm magic space wizard people always learning powers they had on there own

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

You have to remember that pull is an extremely basic ability, and we've seen untrained, gited force sensitives use these basic abilities in fight or flight situations. Mind trick is far more complex, requiring you to use the force to manipulate the will of others, not a simple exerting of it like push or pull.

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Svenwalker94
Svenwalker94

and using that logic perhaps she accidentally discovered the Mind trick that way ?

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Mind trick is too complex to use by simple instinct. It require a decent knowledge of the force and training, unlike a push or pull.

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Svenwalker94
Svenwalker94

Again thats your opinion Doing a lucas the force guided her nobody knows the true nature of the force

I mean if that one thing bothers you that much then you sir need to get a life :)

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

On the contrary, I've been nothing but civil towards you yet you are being passive agressive towards someone else because they have a different opinion, so I think your projecting ;)

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Svenwalker94
Svenwalker94

Goddam you foiled my plan again !!! lol

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Im having a hard time telling if your being sarcastic or not since this is text.

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Svenwalker94
Svenwalker94

Sarcasm

sorry If I am coming off passive aggressive. Recently Been harassed by the Toxic side of the community when I voiced my opinions so I just getting out of the habit

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

And i do have evidence to suggest mind trick is a complex power. You literally only see either experienced force users or gifted force users with significant training use it.

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the_Farseer
the_Farseer

Rey could be a high-functioning savant. However, the real issue is that not only is she very naturally gifted with the Force but she can also "handle herself" and expressly refuses Finn's hand when he tries to help her up...only to offer hers to help him up in the next scene. This series of frames is a very clear, highly politicized message. And this is all within the first act of the first movie that she is introduced. They set a precedent about her, right off the bat, that "she don't need no man" but that man certainly needs her.

Again, all mostly forgivable...until we got Jyn immediately after. Followed swiftly by Iden Versio. Not one, not two, but three strong female leads in a row. I have ZERO problem with leading women but if you can't see an agenda here, fire your optician!

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StarwarsFan21
StarwarsFan21

Yeah kennedy needs to go

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Nolanstar
Nolanstar

OT empire doesn't actually come off as sexist, considering Lucas's comments that female stormtroopers exist, you just can't tell behind the armor. Presumably its similar to most militaries where you see a skew between combat and support personnel.

Doesn't help that Disney tries to vilify a good chunk of the fanbase.

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