News from the Developers Tomb - Dark Eldar Agony Titan Concept image - Ultimate Apocalypse Mod (DOW SS) for Dawn of War
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For some time now I was thinking of a possible design approach for a potential Dark Eldar Phantom Titan pendant.
Since Dark Eldar love exotic weapons i'Ve decided to create something unique with this one!
The Agony Titan is meant to be a defense line/ building smasher. The Titan can deploy from the ordinary combat mode into a siege mode where it brings a powerful experimental weapon online that blasts anything quite quickly into oblivion.
Due to the volatile nature of this weapon the Agony Titan has, once deployed, a minimum firing zone where it can't use it's main weapon and is helpless to any intruder within this zone. To send in backup for the Agony Titan is a good idea since, once in siege mode, it looses it's powerful shields and any chance to fire it's secondary weapons since it's power supply can only power whether the main weapon system OR the secondary weapons + shields.
The design however is not final and anyone that is interested can send me improvement ideas or even make a "real" concept sketch of the Agony Titan. You have all artistic freedoms, only it has to be dark eldar themed, be a tripod and has the necessary weapons for both a siege/combat mode. Anyone with too much freetime can contact me here on moddb and send me screenie of your personal vision of the Agony Titan!
Does not it look too similar to existing titan with its two paralel guns? Can it be possible to make one arm shoot that purple dark elf particle freely to all sides?
I had the idea in mind giving him some kind of tentacle guns that are attached on his back which can fire ina 360° direction. Also the arm guns are not static and can move in at least 90° angle up/down
I think it can be cooler if you ditched those guns and just put one thing that i said.
Also another idea. How about a flesh titan like the wracks or grotesque that dark eldar maniacs. It can have chains around his neck.
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For the most part they seem to be using the older dark eldar, which is more of the games fault, i dont think will be seing much in the way of those kinds of units, the wrack isnt even finished yet.
Sorry dude, but tentakles sound WAY cooler than one arm. It also sounds as if with this the DE are getting some much needed artillery. Although a titan artillery needs some heavy balancing. If the range is to small it's useless, if the range is to far, it becomes op. Kinda like this damn deamon-arty... **** thing can sit secure inside it's base without fear of ever getting shot at. ... well... at least in 1.8.0 it was this way.
I like the idea of tentacle guns,actually. Have you decided on what its secondary weapons might be? I know the DE love their dark matter and energy weapons but maybe something akin to a massive splinter weapon or something, call it a Splinter Sprayer maybe?XD Either way I love the design but I admit I'm slightly biased towards tripod designs.:p
Do you plan to add more troops/races? I saw on warhammer wiki few troops looking good like Necron Overlord or C'tan Void Dragon. Ordo Xenos for Space Marines will be awesome too. Anyway, I love this mod.
New Units - Most likely
New Races - Most unlikely
Fun fact about the Void Dragon: There was once a working in-game model of the Void Dragon that i've made some time ago, but the quality was cheap and I had more important things on my agenda.
I wanted to include all 4 C'Tan Gods (Nightbringer, Deceiver, Outsider, Void Dragon) to the necron army each with an unique play style. But I haven't found the time yet since completing the Titan rooster for all races has still priority.
Next on my list will be probably some new Tyranid Biotitan or maybe something new for Sisters of Battle since they're lacking new stuff the most.
Take your time because patience is a virtue. :p
I hope you can re-design the Wrack concept, this seem more likely Homounculus that Wracks
Do you have any concepts for the SoB yet in regards to a new titan? I would suggest something but... sadly I cannot think of anything. I think I remember Cylarne saying something about not wanting them to have the titans the other Imperial factions have, so that makes it harder.
Not yet but I am certainly sure that i can come up with some legit tech-faggotery that pleases both the Eye of the Mechanicum and the God-Emperor one's aswell.
Maybe a giantly-oversized artillery plattform firing exorcist/manticore rocket barrages over a long range? Pretty much like that Magnus Emplacement that the IG uses.
Maybe a buffed-throne of judgement with Lord Kaldor Draigo strapped on it with his nose beeing sealed with industry-grade tape so can finally repent for snorting dat damn warp dust and kill some heretics on the battlefield already, instead of chillin' n surfin' on the tides of the immaterium on a giant line of space-cocaine.
I'll anyways inform ya guys about my plans and upload early WIP's so we can get the community involved furthermore especially on non-canon stuff.
The Kaldor Draigo one seems reasonable, maybe he could be another alternative to the Arch Angel..but he would probably wreck Angron quite easily cause he is the chosen child of Matt Ward. If the other Chaos Daemon primarchs will be added, i think you have to choose a specific mark to get a specific primarch, like for example when you choose Tzeentch you get Magnus the Red.
A HUGE organ on the base of the Basilisk Magnus would be pretty badass and in-theme with them.I think that they need a bridge unit power-wise between living saints and the AA the most however. The Big Bad Chair sounds like the safest bet for that maybe.XD
Yeah, because the giant organ gun idea could be too similar to the basilisk magnus and artillery is the Imperial Guard's strongest defense. :p
Barbed/scythed Hierdule would be a good idea, Sisters can take anything the Imperium has.
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That doesn't look very much like a Dark Eldar weapon tbh. Looks like a supreme commander unit.
Yup it does so far. Remember this is an early WIP and about everything on this unit will be reworked for a more Dark-Eldarish look.
looks cute
Needs more Dark Eldar spikes chains and other toture tools but for wip its really good.
I say go for it, we could use more some units and titans in game. Just don't forget about the Demon lord because his animations especially for his war gear and flight animations are severely lacking.
*sigh* the Demon Lord. Yes I am aware of this problem and tried to solve it but unfortunately I can't import the Damon Lord into 3ds Max without breaking him completely, which would basically require me to rebuild him from scratch again. This is because I don't have the source files for it and the creator is gone for good :(
If anyone is willing to do so I can give ya the totally broken source files of the Demon lord but all animations are pretty much unusable and his bone structure got annihilated. Interested?
wow, I didn't know that was the situation with the daemon lord. But im sure the UA community would have no problem with a new new daemon lord model and animations (pretty much taken from chaos lord). considering how old and "stiff" his model is I it would be better to start from scratch anyway, although I don't have any modeling skills.
I think the commanders for each race (if nothing else) should be one of the best animated/looking infantry models due to their high usage and importance to each race as a whole, no one wants a sliding doll representing and leading their army into battle but that's just my opinion. Looking at the other commanders they just seem to be next gen in comparison to the daemon lord so a total recall just seems reasonable
Something strange... Doesn't look like somethink from Dark Eldars' arenal. But, anyway...
Prepare Shadowswords and alarm the Navy on orbit. We have a xeno toy to be broken!
It's very early WIP expect almost everything on it to change as it was more of a quick sketch of what I had in mind.
Also, don't make it overpowered. Dark Eldars are fast and deadly, not overarmoured. That blast should be like Shadowsword overdrive, not more crazy.
The blast is supposed to be slow and can be quite easily be outmanouvered by any somewhat fast unit. Remember that if the Titan is in siege mode the shields are deactivated and the armor of the titan is fairly low. Also there will be a fairly large minimum range area where the Titan can't fire in siege mode.
It should be countered by sending units in just close enough with anything armor busting and you should be fine. The idea is making it sort of a gamble: Go into siege mode and wreck someones base and risk getting your titan destroyed more easily or use the weaker combat mode which is more of a safe game.
Just don't make it titan buster such powerful as Tau satellite winbutton.
There are many crazy faction in the game already. And that craziness is far from logic.
The 4 definitions of 40k= Grimdark, OP, epic and crazy.
Not crazy. Special )
By the way, will you add Imperator, warlord and other Titans to the mod? I saw addon/mod with them.
I like it! And tentacles sounds like a good idea. Very unique
as for the above mentioning of new races, I'd like to say again, making subraces for certain armies like the Imperial Guard and Space Marines could be a worthwhile thought :D
Oh wow, I understand it will be transformed as the units in the "StarCraft 2"? Hell and he's something like a "darkwalker" from "Unreal Tournament 3".
Starcraft was supposed to be a 40k game but the creators of the Warhammer 40k and fantasy universes Games Workshop took away their license so they made something similar instead, that's why most 40k fans see Starcraft as a rip-off. Blizzard the company that made Starcraft even had a text in the credits saying "Games Workshop please don't sue us"
Actually to be honest I really had the Siege Tanks animation in-mind when was creating this. Also for the main gun I was inspired by the "The Iron Giant" Cartoon-Movie which had that exact chest mounted uber-cannon.
I am not an expert on anything eldar dark eldar or Dawn of war Factions in general but I was expecting something weirder or more exotic from the dark Gothic and arcanish Dark eldar like a twisted version of that burning thing who's name I forget also Love the Iron Giant inspiration just saying
Finnaly, a Dark Eldar vehicle that can't be shooted-down by single bolter round. Interesting idea. But mechanical tentacles with weapons will be way cooler and more original.
Tbph I couldn't see the DE using this ever, they are a pirate army, and not into siege warfare.
The model is good so far, it just doesn't fit into the armies ethic.
Anything is possible in WH40k.
I think Portal turret when I see the siege mode..
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Oh for some reason when I see this model, I can only see this.
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I'm making my own version of the mod where all artillery weapons have a substantial minimum range.
I approve. Awaiting final product and I will implement the concept as exact to your description.
Again as i commented on the last one. I don't think this should be added in IMO, the dark eldar do not have titans and we already have enough content in the game that is not in the lore, i feel the game benefits from this, as races need unique capabilities to stand out, dark eldar dot not need more titan's, they are very powerful raiders, i don't believe we need to try and "Even it out" by giving more titans to races that don't have any, instead of making cobbled together models i think the focus should be on differentiating the factions with their own unique play styles and abilities that reflect the 40k universe.
In short, i think if you want to add titan like units to the game, unless a model of the lore one exists or can be made, or if they don't have any in cannon, don't make them.
Needs more spikes and sadism. Doesn't scream Dark Eldar to me, mostly because it ISN'T screaming lol.
Reminds me more of the Portal Turret honestly. Still cool but needs more theme in the final model in my opinion.