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DarthVicaten
DarthVicaten

Tie Punisher say What????

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.Corey. Author
.Corey.

Eriadu is getting it in 2.3.

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Meldarion
Meldarion

Whenever I switch to cinematic mode to watch a dogfight everyone just flies around in loops. Obviously firepower/shields come into play. But, is the purely maneuvering part of a dogfight simply decided by speed and turn or is there some sort of hidden stat? What exactly is going on behind the scenes when fighters enter a dogfight?

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.Corey. Author
.Corey.

Speed, thrust, turn rate, mass. There's a few stats that actually do impact it. The loops are just them trying to get behind each other, it's all based on their stats as opposed to pre-determined arcs or something.

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Meldarion
Meldarion

Interesting. I'm always surprised by how much depth the EAW game engine has. Thanks for the response.

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Bucman55
Bucman55

Just a thought but I'd increase the speed and turn rate of the V-Wing to be more in-line with the other Interceptors from the era. It makes no sense for it to be such a downgrade compared to the V-19 given the Republic's fighter doctrine.

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.Corey. Author
.Corey.

The speed is based on its speed stats from other sources, which put it as significantly slower than other fighters (75 MGLT vs something like the standard fighters, let alone Interceptors, of the GCW being around 100 MGLT). The low turn rate is because its weapons are described as being able to swivel- most fighters, when they have rotating weapons, it's to cover for them not being especially maneuverable, so I went with that trend here.

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Bucman55
Bucman55

That 75 MGLT stat comes from SWBF: Renegade Squadron, which, like the OG BF2, has the V-Wing as a bomber rather than an interceptor. I'm not sure I'd trust that particular source here.

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.Corey. Author
.Corey.

True. I'll take another look at some other stuff to try to find some better numbers for it.

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166248
166248

why do you have the TIE Bomber as being faster than the X-wing?

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ArmchairAkula
ArmchairAkula

Check your eyes fam, the TIE/sa is 2380 while the X-wing is at 3700.

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Wordsarecool
Wordsarecool

You check your eyes. Speed 4.25 for X-Wing versus speed 5 for TIE Bomber.

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.Corey. Author
.Corey.

X-Wing has more acceleration, TIEs are generally depicted as being faster (even the TIE Bomber). These are all stats taken directly from other sources. The X-Wing also has the ability to lock S-foils, this is just standard speed.

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Blue_Fyre
Blue_Fyre

shouldnt the X-wing have more armor than the TIE? according to the wiki, the X had 20 RU (?) while the TIE was in the range from 9-15

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.Corey. Author
.Corey.

Those stats are taken from conversiosn from the X-Wing miniature games, which we're trying to stick to more than other things since it's typically a bit more balanced. The shields make a lot of difference, and there's an extra ability we're giving the astromech-equipped ones, so it still works out to being a significant difference in favour of the X-Wing.

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jedi7000nathan
jedi7000nathan

T-wing?

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Battleship0003
Battleship0003

No Assault Gunboat or Missile Boat?

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.Corey. Author
.Corey.

Not in 2.3.

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Darth~Vader
Darth~Vader

So does this mean that New Republic fighters are better or worse now? Or is it not that simple? I really don't know how these stats would play out in-game.

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Sephiroth0812
Sephiroth0812

On low- and mid-tier level NR fighters tend to be generally better in many aspects.
It's only on high-tier where Imperial models are equal to or outrank NR fighters, like the TIE Defender, TIE Hunter or TIE Avenger.

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jedi7000nathan
jedi7000nathan

Will the fighter rebalance give those heroes who have Tie Intercepters hyperdrives it is absolutely broken that they die if you retreat from a battle you don't want to fight

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While not a massive change (or the most visually interesting picture ion the world), I've started going through and adjusting some of the stats on fighters using translations of numbers from other sources, especially the X-Wing miniature game and other RPG sourcebooks. Here's a quick look at what some of the upcoming fighter stats are for ICW2.3, FotR 0.5 and some other stuff. A few are missing since I only took one screenshot and it's a pretty long list.

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