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ZoneScout89
ZoneScout89 - - 138 comments

nice addons, Sound is awesome to :)

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Phillon82
Phillon82 - - 267 comments

Nice, good additions, game needs some more SMGs.

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slipkid69
slipkid69 - - 1,334 comments

Lovely, lovelyyyyyyyy, lovelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

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hermitageman
hermitageman - - 9 comments

Everything looks great, but I have one serious notice:

Bizon-2-01: Chambered for the NATO-standard 9x19mm Parabellum cartridge using a modified magazine with a 53-round capacity.
Bizon-2-02: Chambered in the .380 ACP (9x17mm Short) pistol round (64-round magazine capacity).
Bizon-2-03: 9x18mm Makarov variant with an integral sound suppressor.
Bizon-2-04: 9x18mm Makarov semi-automatic carbine model.
Bizon-2-05: 9x19mm Parabellum semi-automatic only model.
Bizon-2-06: Semi-automatic only carbine version in .380 ACP (9x17mm Short).
Bizon-2-07: Select-fire model chambered in 7.62x25mm Tokarev. This model dispenses with the Bizon's helical magazine and uses a conventional staggered-column 35-round steel magazine.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizon_SMG)

So which caliber version of BIZON SMG is shown here?:) I suppose it is a 9x19 mm version, because the magazine capacity is 53 rounds, but, according to your descriptions, you wanted to show us a 7,62x25 mm version.:)

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tsf00181 Author
tsf00181 - - 283 comments

I know it should have a stick mag. Problem is, no one has made a model of the Bizon with a stick mag. I'm letting it slide because its impossible to be 100% accurate on everything. If I make it so it uses 9x18 or 19 I run into the issue of there being only 2 pistols in the game that use 7.62x25.

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hermitageman
hermitageman - - 9 comments

As it is written in my previous comment Bizon-2-07 (7,62x25 mm) can also use the same helical magazines as 9x18 mm and 9x19 mm versions, but because of the size of the cartridge its capacity is only 45 rounds (53 rounds for 9x19 mm and 64 rounds for 9x18 mm versions). In my opinion, it would be best if you could include 3 versions of Bizon into your mod (as an example, you have included 3 versions of FN FAL). Make the 7,62x25 mm version a bit more powerful and accurate so that it would make sense using it. For example, during WW2 the effective range of PPSH-41 (7,62x25 mm Soviet submachine gun) was ~200 m while the effective range of MP-40 (9x19 mm German submachine gun) was only 100 m.

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tsf00181 Author
tsf00181 - - 283 comments

I think about doing 3 of them. It really comes down to time. I still haven't finished the last two FAL's. If I do two additional Bizons, they will have the same skin as the primary.

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Wizzrobe
Wizzrobe - - 87 comments

Great to see the bizon and TT-33 making it in! Love both firearms!

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hermitageman
hermitageman - - 9 comments

You could also include PPSH-41 and PPS-43 submachine guns into the mod. They both use 7,62x25 mm ammunition and there are plenty of them in the military storehouses around the former USSR.

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tsf00181 Author
tsf00181 - - 283 comments

I know. misery 2 has a good model and texture. The animations are awful though, Until I can teach myself how to port in someone else's animations, I don't want it in my mod.

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hermitageman
hermitageman - - 9 comments

You could also talk to Millenia (one of the authors of LURK mod. He has created a pretty good model of PPSH-41 for Fallout:New Vegas and Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl.

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Added in the Bizon SMG, CZ75 and TT-33 Pistol.

Originally I wasn't going to add in the the Bizon or CZ75, but I wanted the classic TT-33. I wasn't going to added in 7.62x25 ammo for just one pistol so the other weapons got added. I kind of like the Bizon animations anyway.