R.E.A.R.M. - "Rearmament Expansion And Redesign Mod" is an unofficial Homeworld 2 expansion and it adds number of new interesting and various units.
Strike Frigate
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I should probably say something. Well, it's a ship of a new race, it has a working title, but it's probably not a good one, so you may try to name this race.
Few things:
-there will be about three ships, it's only an ally, not a full race.
-it was made for fun, in times when I was completely tired of the necessary work.
-and it's not supposed to be nice, I don't really expect you gonna like it.
-mod is releasing this week.
Lol, I like it for sure, this is a Skycar, MKII :P
How do you plan to implement them as allys? Neutral stations to capture, that grant the owner the option to research there ships maybe? Anyway nice, guess some fighters and a Destroyer of there style would fit in very good.
The way I'll implement it is through the research station. It will be used for unlocking dreadnaughts, some units have a third levels of upgrades there and there's surprisingly a lot of other things. And also allies. It may not make complete sense to call allies by the research station, but it's the best way from the gameplay point of view (maybe the module could be some kind of communicator/translator, navigation beacon compatible with the alien technology or just a neutral ground for negotiation).
And the Allies will have their own unit cap, so you can at a result have a higher number of certain class of ship (frigates in this case) and at the same time not replacing your own ships with them.
I've read your post about pirates. That's a certainly good idea, but I'd like to keep it unique for all races (Vaygr may have few beautiful Taiidans. Kadeshi, since the don't have any friend could have some slave race. Just a few ships for each, to me it will be welcomed refreshing changes from time to time.)
And fighters, I have those in paper actually, but I would feel so guilty for delaying the release just because of them, so most likely not now, if soon or ever. Destroyer too, but that's it, those are the potential classes which might appear in the future.
If something from what I said didn't make sense, it's because of my terrible lack of sleep, my brain refuses to work again.
holy **** thats awesome nice job pouk welp i love it man thank you for showing us this awesome ship
I like it, very cool design. It's a shame we'll only be getting around 3 ships for this unnamed race, they look like they'd be a cool race to play as (though I realise that would involve a tonne of extra work for you so I'm not gonna request it lol).
NICE!! a very interesting design!!
I didn't expect such positive feedback, I actually expected you all to shout at me how can I dare to work on something completely different before the promised and already delayed release... Well I still expect it, but ok, I'm really glad you people like it. If you'll enjoy them, they can be updated in the future, I do like working on them so from my side it's not a problem. And strangely, since you're still not shouting at me, does anyone have an idea for the name? It's your chance to make your footprint into the mod. I have a name and maybe I'll use it, but I'm not confident because with my luck it will turn out to be some swear word or something stupid.
well duh you have so many fans any ways it saddens me that we will only get three ships like this oh well make the most of it
Pouk, how can we get angry at you for adding something YOU want to what is essentially YOUR mod. I for one am just grateful that youre sharing it with us, not to mention this new ships looks awesome to begin with.
ok, glad you see it this way rather than delaying.
Dude... that looks freaking awesome! Very nice design.
Nice model and textures!
I suck at names Pouk. But I love to help. The first thing that popped in my head was the name "Fril'Kah Imperium" Why did it appear you ask? Well I'm not sure exactly. What about "Teh'san Alliance". See I did it again, completely random. I can make more if you'd like.
"EDIT" I just realized I see a small bit of Bentusi in these ships. Perhaps you could tie them into the race as well.
-Do you know the psychological experiment "booba & kiki"? Google it. It's about the sound of the name actually representing what it describes. This name should be round with a little bit taste of sharp, a little heavy one but not safe either. I'm not crazy, it makes sense if you know the booba and kiki thing.
I'll tell you my working term for them, just don't laugh:
"Cooros" or "Coodos". Problem is that until yesterday I didn't know about existence of word "kudos" (which sounds almost the same) and that "cood" is listed in the urban dictionary, so Coodos is most likely out. It leaves me Cooros. Anyone has a problem with that? Does it sound stupid? Please tell me.
(as I said, it's round in double O with a little sharp in S and maybe C... Again, to me it makes sense, hope to you as well).
-No need for empire or alliance, they are not big enough to call themselves by the names describing a nation lead by an emperor or even an alliance of more nations. Republic or kingdom could do, but why to complicate things, just the race name is fine.
-Yes, you could see Bentusi in them. Not intentional, I didn’t think of them once when making this.
Actually Teh'Sahn was my effort of making it sound like it looks, for one main reason. This ship closely resembles the Clee'san from Cataclysm. If the clee'san was it's own race I'd say this was part of it, sadly it's not. That was my reason for saying that.
Actually I did hear of this booba&kiki experiment.
And as you like a "booba" name I thought of a name like "Coloon Foreign Legion" or "Coloon Janissaries"
Well i would really like this "Smaller " allies have titles to their names like this.
droideka95: Ok but you rather named it after what it reminds you than what it sounds like.
HenryKing: Not entirelly booba name, I meant somothing like fat but still sharp, if you know what I mean. And I said I want only the race name, not a title describing what they are.
You could almost always interpret something in any name. My suggestion would be going with what youre feeling good with and to not care for possible similarities. After all its your work and just a game. Coodos sounds nice to me either.
However ... if you really dont want to go with your Coodos - I know another name: The 'Pouk'
The Pouk? It doesn't even have a proper pronunciation in English.
Why shouldnt it? Pouk ... spoken Poukh ... works perfectly well for me.
Well. Just an Idea with a little humorous approach.
Hang on, hang on... I remember that the non-cannon map (sorry creator) of the HW galaxy (with race boundaries) had a small race that has its own territory well inside of the Hiigaran territory. If I recall, it was a non-cannon race that acts in alliance with the Hiigarans while the Hiigs have only very slight influence over their politics. Let me take a look for their name.
While I respect Norsehound, I don't see a reason why to follow his non-cannon map. It's good but it's still an imagination of one fan. Imagination of me, as another fan, may differ.
Ah, nevermind. I found the map(s), but I don't see the race that I saw before. By the way, the maps cartographer is Norsehound: Forums.relicnews.com
Looking at the "final" version of the first and second attempt at making the map, I don't see what I was looking for.
On to the ship though. It's very unusual (duh), but I like it as a whole. Though doesn't scream frigate to me. The bridge (bridges? look closely at the turrets...) make it seem much bigger than a frigate, while the textures make it look more like a platform (especially the engines). But it definitely doesn't look like it's Hiigaran or Vaygr. I like the assymetrical team colors that you have going there. I also like the turret design (inspired by HW@ maybe? Doesn't really matter I guess). Can the badge be changed, or is it permanently the "new race" badge?
I'm trying to figure out how these guys will fit into default gameplay and HC. Definitely don't want them to be "better" than Hiigaran units, but also don't want them to be useless, or out of place.
I think that these side-alliance race(s) will help keep you sane Pouk. Don't want to get too tangled up in them either, but having four races that you can jump around and work on will break up the monotony of working on the mod.
It actually is bigger than a frigate. Too small to be seen as a micro-destroyer, but too massive for the frigate. Right now it has 23000 health and it's slower than destroyer. So also your comment about platforms is spot on, I was thinking about platforms when I was drawing it. It is supposed to be slow, heavy and well armored.
Turrets are not inspired by HW:@ at all. I gonna have to look what does they have (I don't remember such turrets amongst their pictures), but definitely no.
Badge. That's their badge and together with the base color it cannot be changed. But on the side is a half ship badge half your team badge as a symbol of coalition with you.
Stripes are your primary team colors.
Better... First let me tell you my opinion about the pirate Battleship from the pirate mod as an example. Now that's not believable, way too good to be in hands of pirates. But I said that already pretty recently. I do not like smaller races to be better than two biggest fighting sides in the galaxy. That's why this race can't ever have BC (maybe someday with the help of hiigaran research team, but generally no).
So yes, I don't want them to be much better, but they in fact are better in something. Several reasons:
-why would you ever call them if they suck in the first place?
-they have a very limited number of ship types, they wouldn't stand a chance if they were alone
-you will be allowed to have only few of them
-I'm as always playing the golden REARM rule of weaknesses. They don't do much resistance against bombers and the whole race will be weak against strikecrafts, they also have targetable engines
-and again, as I said it's pretty heavy to be a proper frigate and so it's not a proper frigate. I already had a sentence describing them: "they have a different opinion about what is a frigate", that's what I thought about when I was thinking what I'll put into a mod manual, if I'll make one.
So with all this said: They are strong, they are heavy, but they're slow and they'll probably be much more expensive. They exceed in only this aspect and the whole race will be like that. And they need to be good at something in order to be wanted reinforcements, otherwise you wouldn't call them.
"...side-alliance race(s) will help keep you sane Pouk." That's exactly what it is about. And yes, they will be kept simple, few ships and that's it.
lmao, weirdest ship i ever seen but tbh i like it xD
great job, honestly!
It's weird but intriguing. I would like to see the rest of this race, they seem like the they would be the covenant and higs and vaygr are the UNSC (sorry for the halo metaphor) the technologically advanced race that comes out of no where and puts the other two in their place. Anyway, i think it's the sleekness of this ship that makes me think that...
I like :D
Oh I had another LAN yesterday and now my friends and I are really keen for the release ;) no pressure hahahaha
Cute but dangerous!!!
I like the Ship to, because the most Homeworld 2 Ships have a long and small desing this Ship is the exact opposite.
This more follows the aesthetic of HW1, where ships could "grow" into all directions. In HW2 the ships are really like ships.
I thought my eyes tasted the flavor of HW1 a little bit.
Looks like a playstation gamepad. :P
I knew someone will come up with that. :)
Tis very good sir
for some reason i get the Klo'Tehth alliance or some thing don't ask i'm a bit insane
Quote Pouk:
"So with all this said: They are strong, they are heavy, but they're slow and they'll probably be much more expensive. They exceed in only this aspect and the whole race will be like that."
Now that`s what I`m talking about. Big, heavy ships with a lot of firepower cutting through smaller ships like knife through butter :) BTW what kind of weaponry do you plan to fit them with? I hope some beam weapons will be present.
I still can`t believe 1 person is doing all that work on this mod and manages to gives us updates regularly with screenshots, videos, info... Amazing! I`m happy that you`re doing what you`re doing, Pouk.
I don't want beams, maybe only with cooperation with Hiigarans, but they'll have a plasma launchers.
First thing I thought was: Somtaaw... oh, wait... no.
Great looking ship though! I just love the team color stripe design ;)
You've outdone yourself here again, Pouk.
I thought either Somtaaw or Bentusi. Since the Somtaaw used bentusi tech, it could have been either. Boy was I suprised.
Mololu, that's you, I didn't recognize you with the new icon.
Somtaaw wasn't an inspiration.
Yeah... maybe I should change it back after all. Was really just a test that kinda failed.
About the somtaaw, it reminded me of a mix between a multibeam and a archangel dreadnaught. Whatever the idea came from, it's a unique design that's kinda refreshing after seeing so many ships all looking very similar. I really like the bridge position and the texture is simply wonderful :)
not a big fan of the design, but the skin is really great!
finally someone understood how much painted shadows and highlights on such a flat skin can do.^^
I hope to see some more of them ;)
I thought of Somtaaw too. It's big and thick and vertical, like the arcangel dreadnaught. I love the design because of the old school homage in it, but even without it's a stand out.
Can't wait to see your take on Taiidans, if your first post is any indicaton
It's an indication that I always wanted to try them, a lot, they are my second favorite. And while it's not entirelly impossible to have them as a full race someday, this ally system will allow me to make at least some. But again, even this won't be very soon.
I really don't see the Somtaaw in it at all myself. Bentusi did cross my mind, but mostly I though of the Star Wars 'pod racers', and the cloud city partrol fighters. Maybe I'm crazy, but can't we just agree that this race isn't an existing HW race, and that it's an original race thought up by Pouk?
Names.... Y'know, I dropped the double O in favor of single O's, and I rather like the sound of it: Codos/Coros
For some reason, all the suggested names with a ' in the middle don't sound like the potential name of the ones who designed this ship. However, I have quite a list:
---Taken from middle-eastern names: Damian, Silaah, Zihayr, Namir, Nassar (Really like this one, especially considering it's meaning: "helper, protector, victory"), Nishaat, Ansari, Bahir, Barakka, Kyril, Doubulah, Jhiraagh, Muwakkil, Rayhaan, Saleem, Shadeq
---Taken from the little known language Sarus: Tilfym, Retul, Raemdyt, Faedrid, Raedidir, Midum, Dorlym
Some other ideas for where to look for names would be African, Egyptian, Babylonian, Old English, and Native (North and South) American names and words.
Single O, I actually agree, surprisingly but I do.
Names with ' in them are just like from Homeworld, lot of Homeworld names are like that, but in this case to me it seems a litlle bit forced just in sake to sound homeworldy.
From yours I like:
-Nassar -not bad at all.
-Ansari -but to me it sounds like it would fit to much more advanced race, I don't know if that makes sense but it sounds "noble".
-Barakka -I like this one a lot, to me it fits perfectly. I don't know why, but it sounds like a fat snake, which is a lot what this race is. But maybe it's a little too heavy.
-Saleem -Nice one, but maybe too thin and sleek.
-Coros -I'm converted to single O now.
...I hope you don't think I'm mental after those descriptions...
Anyway we have to find the name as soon as possible. I need to use it in more and more files.
So for me the best candidates are:
-Barakka
-Coros
Opinions?
Wait, I'm googling snakes in mythology, that could be it.
No, didn't find anything.
That Ansari for whatever reason reminds me of the Asgard in Stargate SG-1 a race like that well really advanced energy defenses and weapons
yes
i really like the way this ship looks idc what anyone says xD