Retrofitting or refit refers to the addition of new technology or features to older systems. Like upgrading this old Halcyon-Class with more weapons and better system and engine.
I think the idea of having two completely different Halcyons is a bit silly given that a refit would imply larger armament and more armor padding as opposed to completely changing the super structure in most areas.
Also shame on you guys for putting frigate turrets on the Halcyon.
If you have constructive criticism, by all means, jump on the forum and post some stuff. We're pretty proud of this model, given how limited the Sins engine is. We work on a very short leash, so we have to make some concessions.
Don't think anyones criticising the model, it's the design. The model actually looks far better than the Reach/anniversary one because it's far more solid like the original Halcyon, rather than abstract mess of loose plates and superflous details of the official one.
Basically, props on the model for addressing some issues, but the core design is worse than most of the stuff on halo.fanon, that's the only issue i have, which means there's very little room for any constructive feedback.
You've always been adamantly opposed to the design but in all honesty I don't mind the Reach variant at all...cannons that big are clearly meant for ship to ship combat. Archers can be destroyed by point defense and it's unrealistic to rely on the MAC for all heavy fighting, especially if you're up against numerous smaller ships.
I know, HHF uses large ship to ship cannons for the same purpose. My point is that the ones on the new Halcyon are just frigate cannons copy pasted around the hull in a random fashion and scaled up as a last minute thought.
Refit is a capital ship. Normal Halcyon is a cruiser. The refit is significantly more powerful than the standard Halcyon and has a suite of abilities. We're still working out the details. Jump on the forums to contribute.
Absolutely amazing,better than the original.
So can we refit our existing Halcyon-Classes in-game or we have to build this as a separated unit?
They're separate units.
Can't you also make it a upgrade ability? like when a Halcyon-Class reaches Level 4/10 it can be upgraded to a Halcyon-Class refit?
Probably not. In the current system, the Halcyon Refit is a Capital Ship, whereas the standard Halcyon is just a cruiser.
There is Fan-fiction out there where the refitted Halcyon-Class was re-classified as battlecrusiers. Are you planning to do the same?
No. It's a capital ship for ingame purposes.
Wouldn't battlecruiser be a type of capital ship?
I like that idea.
what's refit?
Retrofitting or refit refers to the addition of new technology or features to older systems. Like upgrading this old Halcyon-Class with more weapons and better system and engine.
thnks mate
I think the idea of having two completely different Halcyons is a bit silly given that a refit would imply larger armament and more armor padding as opposed to completely changing the super structure in most areas.
Also shame on you guys for putting frigate turrets on the Halcyon.
Dude, in the anniversary, the redon Halcyon has point defense turrets on it. They aren't frigate turrets.
Except that they are. They're copy pasted defense turrets off the frigates in Reach scaled up to ridiculous sizes.
Ok, I understand what you mean but they could just be beasted up boss raping point defence turrets, no?
500mm dual barrel point defense turrets? What is this, Warhammer?
Warhammer is a good game.
more like point defense "CANNONS"
The Halcyon has 40 point defence auto cannons.
Unseeable normally due to the halcyons length and the fact that the auto cannons are so blinking small
Agreed, I always wondered, are those gun are autocannons or railguns turrets(They look too big to be 40mm to me)
If you have constructive criticism, by all means, jump on the forum and post some stuff. We're pretty proud of this model, given how limited the Sins engine is. We work on a very short leash, so we have to make some concessions.
Don't think anyones criticising the model, it's the design. The model actually looks far better than the Reach/anniversary one because it's far more solid like the original Halcyon, rather than abstract mess of loose plates and superflous details of the official one.
Basically, props on the model for addressing some issues, but the core design is worse than most of the stuff on halo.fanon, that's the only issue i have, which means there's very little room for any constructive feedback.
Criticism isn't inherently a bad thing. Like I said, constructive criticism is welcomed.
someone keeps down voting you... i got you back up :)
You've always been adamantly opposed to the design but in all honesty I don't mind the Reach variant at all...cannons that big are clearly meant for ship to ship combat. Archers can be destroyed by point defense and it's unrealistic to rely on the MAC for all heavy fighting, especially if you're up against numerous smaller ships.
I know, HHF uses large ship to ship cannons for the same purpose. My point is that the ones on the new Halcyon are just frigate cannons copy pasted around the hull in a random fashion and scaled up as a last minute thought.
What's the difference between the refit and the normal one?
To put it simply:
ITz BIGGA, ITz STRONGA AND HAS MOURE DAKKA!
I think the developers will agree.
and one of the carried Halo, whos a pretty cool guy that doesnt afraid of anything.
Good talk no, bad talk do
Refit is a capital ship. Normal Halcyon is a cruiser. The refit is significantly more powerful than the standard Halcyon and has a suite of abilities. We're still working out the details. Jump on the forums to contribute.
much better!
Although I still like the original halcyon better. This dose look better than the one in Reach.
There's the sexy lady.
The antennae should be removed-- It just makes the ship look bad (talking about the one found below the MAC cannon)
Hold your breath.
Looks fine to me, I don't really understand all the complaints. The original Halcyon will be in the mod alongside this one anyways.
I would rather keep the antnnae just for the sake of being accurate to the real thing
I'd said before this guy is a genius, right?
uhm...well, THIS guy alone? I've never seen a comment saying that, BUT i'll take your word for it. =l