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Added note for modders reading this.
If you go by this literally. You can take any mod and claim you made everything in it. Which has always been the case in modding any game. This does not however make you immune to becoming an outcast of the modding community as so many others have become.
So while no one owns anything. it's the RIGHT thing to do to atleast credit the developers of anything you use in a mod that you didn't completely make yourself and will get you respect as a modder within the community because that's what we are, a community. We even have those old guys down the street who hate eachother for seemingly no reason.
So please respect other modders and don't rip apart a mod and claim it as yours. Give credit where it's due even if it's someone you don't like.
Rant Over.
^This^ Sooooooooo much ^this^.
As Niko says, modders have never been able to stop anyone from doing this, even before this legal bollocks came along.
But to those who would take full advantage of this, and unduly claim what is not yours, be warned; You will become a pariah (not to be confused with piranha), not deemed worthy of assistance or respect by those whose work you have stolen and, as our community grows ever smaller, you will find less and less people who condone - passively or otherwise - your actions.
If you want to use someone's hard work, just ask; It is only in special circumstances - a paid commission, or personal favour perhaps - that you will be denied.
The basics of model and texture work is not hard to master - I, with the artistic ability of a colour-blind pebble have managed it - so give it a go; It might be difficult at first, but there are plenty of people willing to help and provide feedback, and the end result - seeing a beautifully detailed model of your own design unleashed in-game - is immensely satisfying.
Cooperation, respect and sharing is what has allowed us to survive so long; Let us not, now, throw those things away for the sake of sating some suits who have no comprehension of what we do, or for making things 'a bit easier' on yourself.
Really, you can not claim anything from the mod. Many of you have been making it before and it will happen again.
I find very funny see Aus_Doug speaking about if people will be pariah when you have been clapping the work from people which they have taken the work of others as their own work. Very funny.
I think the same from EmperorNiko. First apply your words to your own actions.
They give credit though. They are saying a lot of people claim stuff as their own, which they don't from what I know.
Thanks for the support sandtrooper; you are, of course, correct.
However, I think Nomada is saying that I in fact applaud ('clapping') others who take credit for work that is not their own.
On that note; Nomada, could you give me some examples?
I assure you that any such actions on my part have come about through ignorance of the offenders actions.
Huzzah!
Thankfully though, this doesn't cover ANY other IP.
What about Star Trek? Battlestar Galactica? and probably more. Really the stuff from these IP, it is from the creators of the IP.
Until the likes of Paramount actually do something like disney has then anything you produce is still safe enough.
The Lucasarts Terms of use on ported assets have never ever changed they have always been the same for many years but most of this community shuns and outcast anyone that uses ported content but people like nomada_firefox can do it since he started his mod and people turn a blind eye to it but we new or old people don't get a blind eye turned to it we only get criticized, moddb only as early this year said they wouldn't delete mods..ect over star wars ported content but that still doesn't mean this community can't still be very hurtful to the ones porting the content.
We sit here and talk about people taking other peoples work without asking or giving credits and that is really right down rude and just dirty but we must look at why they do it 90% of the mods released in the past or most of the ones released now either say you need to ask for permission to use our work or you can't use it at all and that i think is why people take without asking or without crediting said person.
There was many big mods in the past that would release and tell you there was no way anyone would ever get to use their content and then there is people like nomada_firefox who wants you to message him before you use his free release content, there are to few mods that out right says everything in our mod is free to use just give credit and my mod and the clone wars mod by ozzy666 is 2 of those mods that do that.
There is really only 1 person in this community that sits at his computer and gives us ships and vehicles...ect and doesn't ask anything in return but simple credit and that is warb_null there is nobody like him in this community everyone else either hords their content or doesn't allow anyone to use it and that is what will rip this community apart is when people don't help other mods out when they simple ask for a ship,vehicle or infantry.
Part 2 below i exceeded the 2k word cap lol
We as a community will die quick if we don't stop and step back and try to pull together and help one another we need to stop the fighting an bring up the past about people or persons doesn't help either it only weakens the community and so does the hostile competition between mods i sit back and watch mods go at it over who made what first or who got it in FOC first and mine is better then your's, that just tears this community apart why not just have friendly competition and work together.
I have been in this community for a very long time and have done some questionable things and i have tried to make up for those but some people don't let the past be past some people love to fight and cause chaos, but for as long as i have been here since eaw came out i have never seen this community pull together and help one another or 2 mods team up and help one another for a long period of time.
We need to change and i think if people are willing to change in this community whether you port content or not needs to put there differences a side and come together and help one another or we will die a very fast death.
I know it maybe a lot to ask but who is with me on this?
Jedi_Clone_X2, why do you think the port content a great sin?
I do not see any sin in the ported content. About me. Before Moddb changed his rules, I did not upload a single ported byte here.
Jedi_Clone_X2, even if I do not like your ways many times. I´m with you about the ported stuff. I find very non sense when people make a copy from ported models and they release it as their own models. First it is a complete lose of time and second it is cheat.
Yes, I requested contact me when the rules were different. Now I wait that people give credits if they use some of my stuff uploaded at moddb. Just it. About take stuff directly from my mod, I wait that people ask me as always. But really now. They can take it without ask. Just I wait that people be grateful and they ask me first. If people use good words, I´m not a monster.;)
About the comparation with Warb_Null, he does not make a complete mod, just models. There is a big difference with other people.
Another point, it is easy share everything when you have not made everything with your hands. At my mods there are a lot of work, I use thousands of stuff from other people but this stuff was not made for EAW or other of games edited by me at first place. All needed a lot of additional work.
I don't think it's a great sin i support it all the way but there are many people in this community that think it is a sin, i port models as well in my mod many of them come from tfu 1 and 2 and many many more from the unreleased star wars battlefront 3 cause of one of the former free radical members giving me a copy of the game.
But nonetheless i support anyone that wants to port or make their own models although there is more thrill out of making your own then porting but i still support both and i think if people want to do both or one or the other it's up to them and shouldn't be up to anyone to tell them otherwise.
To address you normada, no warb_null hasn't made a mod but he supplies us with models to start a mod or to finish one and that is really helpful to people that can't use 3d modeling programs..ect and i don't see anyone else like him in this community and i'm just saying we need more of them in this community and not be the hoards their content.
Everyone of use from time to time fight over the most stupid of stuff and it's like what is the point of trying to mod a game where the community is so hostile we do this in our spare time for fun and to make a game fun to others and i just think we all need to work together and get over our differences or like i said earlier we will kill this community.
I agree with the above. ^_^
You all need to take a chill pill and get over your differences about this. This is a modding community that do what they do for fun, stop trying to kill it you wieners.
You put me as if I was the bad guy from the film but Warb_Null shares a lot of stuff only with some mods and when he wants, he does not share it with other people, even if we can find the models in the net as we can see with Warlords mod.
At the end, I have not made nothing that many other people had not made before.
Probably, your unique problem with me, it is how you have treated like **** before and you thought how I would not share nothing with you.
But the true is how everything can be negotiated at this life and I´m not rancorous.
At the end, this thread was about how even if there is not need of give credits, people should give them.
About kill the community. I do not know a community with more of ten years which it does not lose players each day. By this reason, probably EAW will have two years more of life, not more.
Why is this even being discussed again, if your to lazy to credit some one for their efforts as a part of the community you all partake in, you shouldn't use what they have done.
ModDB has never had a policy change, we will remove work when the copyright holder demands it.
What i wont do is get involved in credit disputes, if you feel your rights have been affected, you have the legal pre-course through Lucas arts to make a claim.
I took down my post about this issue as members were using it as an excuse to use work without doing the right thing, so i would appreciate it if this post was also updated to reflect this.
Besides that, This whole topic makes me sick to my stomach as i see it poisoning the collaborative efforts of the modding community.
Get back to whats important, making mods for the fun of it.
Well, now we have our answer and you know what can happen if you take the mod from other people without credit or permission.
Well, if I understand correctly: I should give proper credits and (optionally) ask a permission from the authors - and that's all?
You are correct.
You should give credits, before giving credits you should ask the developer of the content you intend to use, if you don't get in contact you don't have a right to use their work.
As stated, credit only covers you if you have permission in the first place, Giving a credit for something you have not asked for is like spitting in the developers face.
(thanks for your hard work, i used it but was to lazy to bother asking, thanks but deal with it)
If you plan to use other peoples content in the community you choose to partake in, for your own reputation and to help the community grow and work well together, its your responsibility to support other developers. Its a sign of respect for them and in turn you should gain their respect for doing the right thing.
If they say no, well at least you asked, get some one else to make the content or do it yourself.
Does that mean I can use a model 3D from a star wars game to import it in an other game ?
Not Really, as you dont have permission to use that asset from the creator, Your also breaking that games terms of use for disassembling the product. Whilst many get away with it, its not the right thing to be doing. EG porting counterstrike to arma would be illegal as its 1 a paid product and its to a non source based engine, same would apply if you put arma content into source. When you port content your opening a massive door that puts yours and your teams had work at risk, its better to make the content yourself than get FOXed.
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