Sins of a Solar Empire is often described as a 4XRTS game, or a game that tried to merge the action and tactics packed gameplay of a Real time strategy game with the deep, complex, empire wide strategy of a 4X turn based game. It's up to debate whether Sins succeeded in this goal, but I think all can agree that of the 4Xs of "explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate", Sins is much more focused on the exterminate than on the others. This mod seeks to give more depth to the other 3Xs of the game by adding additional game elements or refining the existing ones to reward players who give more strategic thought to the non-combat side of the game. Combat will still be the center point of the game, but players will find that the non-combat options available will be much more rewarding. Spying, exploring, sabotage, diplomacy, culture, and economic development have all been added or changed in innovative new ways. Regardless of what you think Sins is, this is the 4XRTS it should have been.

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The Enhanced 4X Mod version 1.701 for Rebellion version 1.8. To install, download the file, extract it to your Mods-Rebellion v1.80 folder, and enable it from the mods tab in game. The checksum should be 37622051. This small update fixes a crash bug with Neutron Stars and Blackholes from the Stellar Phenomenon DLC and allows the VCC/Vasari Loyalists to construct phase gates once again. I'm afraid there will be no patch for this version as it requires a file to be deleted. My apologies to everyone redownloading the entire mod again.

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Enhanced 4X Mod 1.701
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Guest
Guest - - 689,356 comments

Thank you!

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Treys
Treys - - 1 comments

Nice :D

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OrzRock
OrzRock - - 1 comments

oh Good!

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Nitrox22
Nitrox22 - - 15 comments

Will mini-mods from 1.7 still work?

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

Yup! This basically just fixed some bugs and slightly nerfed mines. Minimods should not be affected. :-)

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Overlord595
Overlord595 - - 28 comments

hmm getting mini dump crashes now...am I missing something? I only have the stellar phenomena DLC not the one with the planets, could that be causing the instability?

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

As in it crashes randomly in game? If you haven't tried reducing your texture quality settings. If that doesn't help, if you reload from an autosave does it crash at about the same point?

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Overlord595
Overlord595 - - 28 comments

Well the first thing I did was tried to continue my game from a previous version just to check would it work, it didn't. So ok I created a new game started with the TEC loyalists, and after 2 or 3 minutes minidump, I tried lowering the settings doesn't help, I'll do some more "testing" and try to figure out if there is a pattern, I hope I'll be able to help :)

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

If you get the same crash even after loading from a previous game, please upload the save somewhere and send it to me.

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bilalgilani
bilalgilani - - 6 comments

hey can u tell me abt glaxy forge and crystal and metal mines...can we add them in planet section?love to have 6-7 astroids od metal n crystal.

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

I do not believe so. The amount of resource extractors are fixed per planet. That said, you can give your planets a bonus that will increase your resource income, such as expert metal/crystal miners, by editting the planet, making a new group, add the bonus and set the parameters to "Always" and "NoOwner".

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Ximema
Ximema - - 57 comments

I'm getting mini dump when i'm discovering a new planet ...

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

A particular planet I assume? Can you send me the save?

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Ximema
Ximema - - 57 comments

No , all planets , the genre doesn't matter

And the save of the mini dump ?

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

The save file, minidumps are sadly useless to everyone but the devs.

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Land0fConfusion
Land0fConfusion - - 4 comments

epic mod love it entirely

any chance tho you could upload a list for the galaxy forge on the statistics of your added planet bonuses :D

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

Eh probably not, there's way too many of them. :p Besides I still need to update the Galaxy Forge. If you want to see what they do without spawning them in game you'll need to convert the files to txt and open them with notepad.

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Land0fConfusion
Land0fConfusion - - 4 comments

how would I go about doing that?

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

This guide is a bit out of date in that it refers to Diplomacy not Rebellion, but go to this site then click on the "Convert Data" link. Soase.x90x.net

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EphemeralBlue
EphemeralBlue - - 63 comments

Just got a crash about two minutes into the game. Barely started exploring. First time using your mod, too. No idea what it's related to. Checksum is the same as yours. Will see if it occurs repeatedly.

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EphemeralBlue
EphemeralBlue - - 63 comments

Twice now. Same kind of crash. Error bleep, but no accompanying error, followed by a long hang then crash to the desktop. Nothing noticeable set it off this time either, so it looks random, esp. since this one happened a good hour into the game.

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

Random crashes are usually caused by Sins running out of RAM. Try reducing your texture settings a bit to reduce the chances of this happening.

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EphemeralBlue
EphemeralBlue - - 63 comments

Weren't the RAM issues fixed post Rebellion? I'll give it a shot, though. Also latest two crashes have had no warning, just straight crash to desktop.

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

It is still an issue with mods sadly that add lots of stuff (like this one!). In the next version I'm probably going to add some texture optimizations that will hopefully help the issue somewhat, but using say highest ship settings with this mod will probably never work. Other types of graphic settings like shadows and filters though are fine.

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

has crashed on me a few times, it either happens in the first 5 mins or an hour or 2 along, it seems its the random event, as soon as it was turned off I haven't had a crash in 4 games yet, and I don't play short games, hope this helps

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

Huh, I don't suppose you have any idea what random event it was?

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

don't have a clue mate,

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bingxuezhiya
bingxuezhiya - - 18 comments

It is me, I have reply your PM in my thread in forums(Not to your PM). Could you please email me with the file you edit to add a new Titan built-able more (more than three,I know two is OK).Thanks
My email: bingxuezhiya@sina.com

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

okay it crashed again with events off, so ruled that out. I did three things when it crashed. I had just discovered a planet, I had just researched thermal planets. I just hovered my cursor over an oceanic planet hope that helps

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GenZodKneel
GenZodKneel - - 1 comments

Could the crash be related to Steam?

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

no, it wont be related to steam, as if it were, the mod wouldn't load

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

I have played the mod a few times since it crashed earlier, and I think it has something to do with the planets, it always crashes when I either, discover, research or hover the cursor over a planet.

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

Hmm, does the crash occur exactly the same time if you reload from an autosave? Also I don't believe it should be an issue, but just because it might be planet related do you have the Forbidden Worlds DLC?

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

i have both the dlc, and it most of the time it dosnt get to the first autosave checkpoint, (it normally crashes before) but next time al try it

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

Well you can try a manual save right away as well. Then you can send the save to me if it keeps crashing at the same point.

Also, you're not playing a custom map someone else made or anything right?

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

okay al try it, and no I play medium-large, large and huge maps no customs

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

okay had a few games and it seems it crashes the first 5 mins, but if I manually save, then after it crashes load the save it seems fine, doesn't crash at after that.

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

In a way that is actually a bad thing, if I can't get the crash on my computer it will be extremely difficult to figure out what the issue is. Otherwise I have to assume random crashes are due to hitting the RAM limit.

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

i don't think its the ram limit since its the first 5 mins, what about if I run it in dev.exe would that bring anything up?

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

Well actually if you're going to hit the RAM limit with your current settings it tends to happen sooner rather than later, Sins loads in all assets at the start of the game. If you haven't lowered them yet try that.

The dev.exe does provide error messages, but quite a few things the mod does generates error messages even though they work fine. If you get an error message right before a crash though it would be a big hint. If you try it though, don't click on a hero. You'll be spammed to death with messages. :p

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

my settings are usally high medium low, but ave been running it at medium and low lately. i ran it in dev.exe and it crashed that to desktop aswell.
it came up with a few errors but they were at the loading screen of starting a match and not during.

but the dev.exe created a mdmp file, is there no way to read it?

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GoaFan77 Author
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Sadly not, only the devs can read minidumps. Really a save file that will lead to the crash is the only good debugging tool we have if the crash doesn't cause an error message.

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

does it not crash on your system? its always the first 5 mins or so, but ave found that if you save it, let it crash and restart sins, load the save, it wont crash anymore. and sadly it didn't create an error message in dev.exe just hung then crashed to desktop.

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Land0fConfusion
Land0fConfusion - - 4 comments

just wondering when you might get around to updating the galaxy forge

im deeply sadden that i can't place training academy or fortress world

:C

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GoaFan77 Author
GoaFan77 - - 3,864 comments

This weekend I hope. You could do the standard way of getting the Galaxy Forge to work with mods though; Copy the GalaxyScenarioDef file from the GameInfo folder of the mod and paste it into the galaxy forge folder. No icons but you should get the bonuses.

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Land0fConfusion
Land0fConfusion - - 4 comments

thanks took a sec, but i figured it out :D

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ReiRiv
ReiRiv - - 4 comments

I play game about an hour or two and then it start to crush very frequently. Everytime to desktop. I load an autosave, play a little and game crush again ... Very sad about that.

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zerohourjay
zerohourjay - - 47 comments

a found if you save manually, restart sins and load the manual save it should work fine.

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ReiRiv
ReiRiv - - 4 comments

thanks a lot, it works :)

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