BLACK I.C.E. is an extensive mod of HOI3 under development by Panzeroo and many other members of the Hearts Of Iron 3 forum.

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Black ICE 8.2 is out! Checksum: LXUG This update cumulative which means it includes the 8.1 patch. You do not need 8.1 to install this. You do however need the 8.0 release to be installed. Enjoy!

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Black ICE Version 8.2 Patch
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Guest
Guest - - 706,570 comments

I downloaded 8.0 and 8.2 and loading goes fine until I reach "Loading Databases II" where the game crashes and says something with "error reading files". So I'm wondering if there is something I'm missing.

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

podcat's TFH exe ?

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lord-castor
lord-castor - - 3 comments

Hello, where (I know like Germany) or when ca I have SA units, I never seen SA assault gun?

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

The SA ? You get a few militia units, however the SA no longer existed as combat units by by 1938. The SA men were absorbed into the Wehrmacht. If you mean SS, then yes you will get things like SS assault guns. All the Wehrmacht units can be built in an SS version. You have to choose to allow SS in your game. Either ahsitrocial choice ( which lets you build SS from game startas you unlock various units) or historical choice which gives you the correct OOBs and in August 1940 an you will get a choice to expand the SS with the Himmler Waffen SS HQ activation. From this point on you can build more SS unit.

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et37
et37 - - 34 comments

Do you need any help adding more puppet nations?

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

which nations do you want to add ?

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Guest
Guest - - 706,570 comments

i get dropped out of the game everytime i try to save. Any suggestions(only useful and working pls)

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

delete the logs folder in blackice folder in user/documents. Make sure its the blackice folder. The save game CTD issue is unique to each computer. some people have it, many don't. So its hard to pinpoint as everyone seems to be different. The logs is created by the game every time you start. Deleting the old one seems to help most people.

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Guest
Guest - - 706,570 comments

I delete it everytime i want to save ? , or just once and dont think about it anymore :) ? , since as you said it is created everytime i start the game

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

it depends. It is different for each computer. Some people don't need to delete the logs at all. Others can do it once and save as normal for the rest of the game. Others need to delete it before starting each game. Some few it makes no difference and they need to find another way to fix their issue.

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TokubetsuRikusentai
TokubetsuRikusentai - - 140 comments

is there a 8.2 map cache? or do i need to use the 8.0 one

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

this should work
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kgeorgiannakis
kgeorgiannakis - - 3 comments

Hi there Panzeroo, and thank you and your team for your fantastic effort and contribution!

There is a question concerning this patch, I have been playing with SU against Germany, but I have been noticing that my BASE manpower value is dropping. Actually it seems I will have to stop my Baltic counterattack due to manpower shortage...The funny thing is that germany has lost millions of troops against my defence, where i only had minor losses...Why is that? From 700+ base manpower i am down to 400 and dropping

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

if you are losing base manpower it must be due to losing provinces. You might also have nasty levels of revolt risk in your manpower rich provinces.

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kgeorgiannakis
kgeorgiannakis - - 3 comments

Thnx for the reply. I have not lost a single province, however my revolt risk is 22%...is this 2 much? Nkvd and mp units don't drop this at all...

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

22% will lower manpower in all those provinces significantly. NKVD work perfectly for revolt risk suppression. However it will take some time to lower it from 22%. The revolt risk is recalculated every month. You might take 6 months to lower it. You always need to protect your resource rich provinces in BICE. This is why the soviets have so many NKVD in their starting OOB and later by event. Every province with resources/ manpower and along important supply lines will benefit from a strong suppression unit. The USSR is one of the more difficult nations to play in this regard due to the territory which needs to be covered.

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kgeorgiannakis
kgeorgiannakis - - 3 comments

Once again thnx for your reply. I will give it one more try, and set up the nkvd+hard regiments in all critical provinces. However, the reason that it is too difficult to play as USSR is that BICE battle mechanics is all about tech levels and armor. No matter my defensive set up , I will need at least 6-8 full divisions to keep a single German panzer division from steamrolling me...I am already at war with Finland and Sweden, so I am mobilized. Another serious problem with USSR is that they have very small IC compared to Germany. And the leadership is just not sufficient to keep up with air, land, automotive and officer recruitment needs...

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

the USSR won't have a problem with IC as you have a long period of time to build up your IC. IC is the least of your concerns. In fact the only major issue is your leadership and officer ratio. You have to try and strike a balance between officer ratio and tech levels. The easy thing to do when the germans invade is to pull back your land forces further into Russia. You only really have to hold out until the autumn mud begins in Spetmeber/October. Convert as much of your infantry to mobile units, and light armor to medium armor. The soviets have an advantage in armor value over the bulk of german units. your tanks can do a lot of damage to the german infantry formations. Focus your techs on the coming land war. armor value and armor piercing are crucial.

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Guest
Guest - - 706,570 comments

I'm having trouble installing. After I download, do I just leave all the files in my downloads file and not touch it at all, and then copy the installer over? And what exactly is the installer? Either I'm doing something wrong with these steps or I might be installing it in the wrong place, and if so, where exactly ought I install?

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

the installer is the file you download. Place it in the HOI3 main directory ( alongside all the game exe) Run the mod installer by double click. Make sure you also have podcat's TFH exe overwriting the existing TFH exe. You need to register hoi3 and TFH on the paradox forum to access it

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Ylvigrad
Ylvigrad - - 100 comments

Has USA been fixed when it comes to becoming NS ? I find it very easy to get German Bund elected by the 1942 , I dont even pay attention just set spy level to the max and wait. Although as I understand there are no A-H events, as this is historical mod, it makes me wonder .......oh and one more thing - patch is awesome !!!!!

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

its a historical mod, however its still possible to deviate from history to an extent. The catch is the more you deviate from history the more things will not work or make sense and at worse break the mod.

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thegodwarz
thegodwarz - - 4 comments

One of sudan province has egypt core,many urals and siberia provs not listed in region.txt. between 2 and 4 burma region dont have burma core. a event makes some transylvania provs have infra 14. If china annex all warlord and manchuria, she have more than 25000 manpower ( what a nonsense ) and japan also have huge manpower more than 5000 in sino-japs wartime. After spanish civil war the capital dont move to madrid. Kursk and tula must have points. Hope you fix it sir.

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

I think you are playing an old version. Most of those issues are fixed in version 8.2

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Jyk250
Jyk250 - - 1 comments

S! i am player off this mod,and i like verry much, i post some coments until now,this is the first one registred :)
i fund a bug related whit the Reocupacion off Riehnland in Germania ,all province along french border despite the news infracstructures have ¨Imposible terrain¨ and no gain the resurses, they have -1000 penaltys
the 17º and 18º Panzer Division have no tag in Hq ,and some Lithuanian units to, you take a look for the next pach
if you wana to recive more reports about the game just make a call or you need a somebady too test

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

the Rhineland issue is fixed in 8.3
17 and 18 Pz divisions should already be fixed in 8.2
not sure about the lithunian units ? Which ones are you talking about ?

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Guest
Guest - - 706,570 comments

Hello guys,

Is the UK wargoal working for anyone playing germany? for example install proper government? (the wargoal is not present under "wargoals" tab)

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

not sure what you mean by "install proper government" ?

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thegodwarz
thegodwarz - - 4 comments

I have a suggestion, sir. In yugoslavia decision italy can create montenegro and greater albania(+kosovo) as proctetorate rather than annex the province. I think 2 vassal state ( croatia and serbia ) is not enough. Maybe you can view the divided yugoslavia between axis image in wikipedia as reference

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AVote98
AVote98 - - 4 comments

Im getting very frustrated, the saves are definatly a problem. I was in 1950 and i have multiple saves. Now none of them seem to work when i try to save, i save frequently around every 3 months or so. Ive had to repeat an offensive 4 times now because every time i save the game crashes. This is getting very frustrating now. Ive already deleted some saves from the documents and ive redownloaded the mod agian. Very frustrating. I have 6 saves, 3 of 6 were corrupted some point down the line.

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

the save game CTD issue is related to how your computer generates the logs.txt file. Its unqieue to every computer and each time you load the game. this makes it very difficult to fix as no logs are the same. Only some people have the save game problem and no idea why they do. The first thing you can do is delete the logs folder from blackice in user/documents. make sure its the blackice logs. If that doesn't work there is a thread on the paradox forum with various solutions people have found. Most people find a solution. Forum.paradoxplaza.com
if you are on of the unlucky few where nothing works you can roll back to an earlier version of the mod such as 7.4

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Guest
Guest - - 706,570 comments

I have the following problem in different Multiplayer games only:

- I activate SS (full historical) but it does not spawn any unit

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

choosing historical SS divisions will trigger a decision which places an OOB of the intial SS combat formations.

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macbucky
macbucky - - 4 comments

Hi, Love your mod! No problems except when I am currently playing as Germany and I am in the process of invading France and when I try to select units in a specific random province, the game crashes. Tried reinstalling, but no change
Thanks for the help
Macbucky1

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

no one else has reported this issue. What is your checksum ? which version are you playing. What is the specific random province ? Which units ? We didn't have any issues with the invasion of france, not has anyone else reported this, so its difficult to know what is occurring in your game without more info

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macbucky
macbucky - - 4 comments

I always have the right LXUG checksum, I'm playing 8.2, the game has always crashed on infantry selection in Calais, but there has been other crashes around Calais area.

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

there is a problem with some of those French coastal provinces. You will notice they lack the ports on the map ( whilst the province history file is fine). There was some sort of interface/ positioning issue which we have since fixed for the next update. This was making the ports vanish from the map in some provinces. However i wasn't aware that this would cause a CTD ( you are the first to report it) however its likely the port positioning issue is the culprit.

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macbucky
macbucky - - 4 comments

Do you have any idea when will the next update will be released?

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

8.3 is out on the paradox forum. will upload here today

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Guest
Guest - - 706,570 comments

When will be released Third Reich events compability with 8.3?

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

you would have to ask gamer_1745. Its a sub mod for BICE, so its separate.

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darthgnome
darthgnome - - 6 comments

Panzeroo, a huge thanks for this mod. I can't imagine how much time and effort was put into this, but it really shows, and I can't imagine going back to play stock HOI.

I'm playing the Soviets in the 1936 scenario and am getting random crashes to desktop every few month that seem to be increasing in frequency as I move forward. There seems to be no pattern or particular action that causes the crash.

I'm running on a pc with win 10-64, 8gb ram, ample disk space on a solid state drive. Any ideas on settings to help resolve this?

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

do you have podcat's TFH exe ?

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darthgnome
darthgnome - - 6 comments

Yes, this is with 8.02 release btw.

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

what checksum do you have ? Apart from the save game CTD issues some people have version 8 is fairly stable.

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darthgnome
darthgnome - - 6 comments

How do I check that?

Now that the war has started the crashes have increased to every couple of days making this unplayable for me.

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darthgnome
darthgnome - - 6 comments

I tried reinstalling everything from scratch, hoi3, the LAA hoi3_tfh.exe, and then blackice 8.3. No improvement, I suppose if things are running well with others it must be my system.

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

how much ram do you have ? do you have a 32bit or 64 bit system ?

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darthgnome
darthgnome - - 6 comments

Win 10-64 with 8gb.

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PANZEROO Creator
PANZEROO - - 1,461 comments

you should have no problems. I just finished a play through to November 1945 without a single CTD. Lots of save game restarts to check over different nations. No crashes at any point. My system is the same as yours.

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darthgnome
darthgnome - - 6 comments

I ran a ram check on my system thinking that might be it, but nothing.

The only other thing I can think of is that the hoi3_tfh.exe link in the Paradox forum is dead, and I had to scrounge up the LAA version from a link on reddit to mediafire.

Also, my HOI3 is from Steam if that makes any difference.

Thanks for all the help with this, the amount I played was amazing, feels like a whole new game - for the better. If I can finally get this running, I may end up losing a portion of my life lol

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