Battlefront Forever mod

I think there's one included in the ultimate pack which (luckly) is back up.

This person didn't steal the mods, he just took a pack some one else made who stole the mods. The thing is though since the pack can be easily modified, RevanShan should remove mods that mod creators don't want and since he isn't, it is theft in a way. These people using arguments like, "Your mod got more attention in this pack than the original" and "He put your name in the credits" just shows how idiotic people are and don't know how it feels to get something you worked on stolen. Then you have people who whine that this mod is reviving mods that don't exist anymore and then use the argument, "Why would you create the mod only to not want it to be played?" which also shows their idiocy.

I think you're a good observer ... you can tell me where It is mentioned that He wants to steal the modifications???... I'm sorry but I do not see where says "I want to steal" or "I robbed the mods"

If you see her videos, he have permission of the modders of these mods, and he not have gains for post these mods, if he put a linkshort, adfly etc, he are "stealing"

That said, everything changes ...
that an action is supported by a good intention, not guaranteed to be good ...
Why not try to contact he and ask you kindly to grant the credits corresponding to the mods? without resorting to fight...

He does not have permission from the modders. Take AQT's mod, for example. He asked him to remove it and it is still there. He has no proof of permission from these modders, as most of them are no longer active.

I do not understand your point of view is counterproductive. Why you do not stop cry and you try to be useful to the community and reach a useful according to Mayorcete?
I don't see the point of this war, he is not saying this mod is from him. You don't have rigths from this mod because there is no patent in your work. Same can say Star wars to you because you are using star wars name, in a game that you don't created.
I'm sure that if you talk with him tu put your name somewhere and some links there will be no problem. In total war there are meny mods that use other mods and there is no problem because the important think is to give more life to the game.
You can take profit a very good profit(not economic obiusly) if you change your main.

If you want credits por create the mod, ask to her, but more people play your mod (Sith Wars) thanks to the mod pack.

Man, the people play more the mod pack than the mods for separate, some mods the people dont know it, are better because he are promotion of the mods of other people and he not have lucracion for do it (Sorry for mi english basic haha).

if there is no problem
I can talk to him about your request
I speak Spanish

tell us where, because most of these just dissapeared from view...

Gametoast.com
Gamefront.online
You should find the author of the mod and ask for permission, and refrain from stealing the hard work of others.

Also Swbfgamers.com

The uploader never claimed they had created these mods, and outright states that they are simply compiling them for easier access. If someone didn't want their work distributed for free online, why allow anyone with access to a computer the ability to download it in the first place?

First of all, he is not simply reuploading them for easier access. He is combining mods into addon packs (as well as shipping early versions with a pirated copy of the game). Say you are an artist. You wouldn't want your art to be put in a book of other people's art WITHOUT your permission, only to have your name somewhere in the back of the book. Every single mod here has been uploaded somewhere online by the author, where they intended it to be stored, and can be found with a quick google search.

OK, well I didn't know about the pirated versions. However, regarding the mods themeselves if an artist is giving free prints of his artwork to anyone and everyone, he can't hope to control what people do with it afterwards. Trying to micromanage the internet over free content is likely to lead to a stroke.

That's why many modders, including myself, have a readme in the file with permissions: for example, "please don't rip assets from the mod and do not redistribute". He can't control what people do for personal use, but when you redistribute, that's a whole different story.

I can see two sides to this argument, and I believe that in this specific case RevanShan is in the right. Every upload that I checked at least made an attempt to give credit to the proper creator.

Now I also agree that redistribution is usually not good, but in this case the redistribution is to serve an otherwise unserved player community.

I've been a member of ModDB for years now, and its pretty much my exclusive mod site. I used to use filefront years ago, but now I have found that I cannot access those files anymore.

And since I play alone I have never heard of or seen another website that uploads battlefront mods of a high quality. As a result half of these maps and mods are completely unknown to me?

And its because of that that RevanShan is in the right here. Those modders did not do their job as modders in an attempt to get their work to the greatest amount of people.
That's why they shouldn't be mad when someone attempts to spread their work to a new group of players, basically attempting to make their mod more popular.

Now those same modders would ask that their only iteration of their work on this website be taken down, and thus causing its loss to an entire community of potential players. In this case I believe it is the modder's fault for not making their work easily available to a mod consumer like me.

Modding is a service industry, a free one, but still a serivce industry; this means you go to the customers, not the other way around. As such i believe that there are only a few cases where a modder can legitimately demand that it be taken down.
1. If their mod is properly represented on this site, in which case their presence here is un-needed.
2. If proper credit is not established, in which case RevanShan would either remove the mod or give proper credit. The modder should put their mod up on the website as well.
3. If the mod developer or team is doing so for profit. either by selling the mod or by revenue from visits to a specific website. In this case the mod team should make a page and direct the ModDB users to that website for the download. And RevanShan should remove the mod from the compilation.
(as to #3 I know of at least one modder who does this, Nommada Firefox who always directs people to Firefoxccmods.com to get the download, but still keeps a page here to generate interest for the mod.)

Now Darth_Magnus is the creator of the Sith Wars II mod here on ModDB, and his (and/or his team's) work IS represented here on ModDB. As such I believe that if that content were part of RevanShan's uploads then it would be a misuse of the work and un-needed; and in that case RevanShan should take it down.
This is (to my knowledge) not the case.

As to the accusations of shipping these mods with a pirated copy of Star Wars Battlefront II; distribution of pirated software is illegal (and a personal hatred of mine), and if it were true (I don't know myself) then these should be immediately taken down, or at MINIMUM the pirated copies of the game removed from the downloads.

RevanShan is providing a service, and giving proper credit to the modders. I guess though, it really comes down to would you rather have more players playing your mod, or less players playing YOUR mod?

All fair arguments.

And if you want my personal opinion, while it's understandable why modders would want to include these terms and such in the readmes, I've always felt that this has been more detrimental to the modding scene as a whole and that it paints the creators as being somewhat stuck-up since modding itself isn't exactly a squeaky clean business.

Because most of them still use assets from one game and/or other games. Yes there are edits made but ultimately, these things still use other content to turn it into content that's not at all theirs. Of course then the argument is "Well we give them credit and acknowledge this work isn't ours with the exception of the edits except for when it isn't." and yet when the same argument is used for this, suddenly it's "Don't care, I don't want my non-profit mod used in a non-profit pack that really isn't that incriminating." and honestly, it's quite frustrating.

To me, the whole idea of any modder saying that no one can use their work without permission is understandable... when it's a mod that's for profit and/or there's no credit provided. But in the case of the Ultimate Pack where it not only includes the creator's name in a credit list but also the link to the mod and a note asking for people to support these creators AND includes mods that are made not for profit, it to me is just fine and I feel that the complaints about it are just kind of petty (at least in my opinion.).

Especially when considering this kind of act is a necessary evil to even expose people to more of your work and also keep some mods circulating when they've long since disappeared. That's why these modpacks exist and to me, they're not bad so much as they're great starting points for those who want to get into mods and experience the best while also keeping certain mods that may have disappeared active.

Actually, as someone who has used the Ultimate Pack, I went out and got The Sith Wars II after playing that little taste of it that was included because I loved what I played so much and wanted to support the original author and so when I saw the credits that were included, I went right in.

Personally, I feel that's mainly how modders should view packs like this. It exposes more people to their work (which is non-profit) and for many, if they like what they see, they'll go out and support the original author.

Actually all that text wall resumens in something simple: There are pages like gamefront and gametoast wich were taken down, these files dissapeared and cant be reached, how i (a fan of these works) is suposed to reach it?

(its even an obvius rule of internet breaking down, "there's no way a file can totally disappear from internet, to the most embarrassing video on youtube, to the most ****** "paid" mod from steam"...)