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New ideas for new tech or edit the old ones (Games : Age of Empires II: The Conquerors : Mods : Age of Stainless Steel : Forum : Tech tree : New ideas for new tech or edit the old ones) Locked
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Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Nov 11 2019 Anchor

Hello everybody!

This is my first forum post. I'm posting this to have a discussion on what can be changed in the tech tree of the mod Age of Stainless Steel.

You are free to post any idea or opinion you want.

Best regards.

pavlospap12
pavlospap12 Esquire
Nov 21 2019 Anchor

If you can add palisade gates and make the walls mountable will be very freaking awesome!

Thanks.

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Nov 21 2019 Anchor

The problems with wall to be mountable is quite difficult, but i made the outpost with 1 archer and the option to add 2 more by garnisoning units.

I have an ide to bave an option to build bridges to cross rivers, how the idea looks?

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Emepror_Sid

pavlospap12
pavlospap12 Esquire
Nov 22 2019 Anchor

Freaking awesome! Thank you for your time and your work kEEp gOIn!!!!!

Can this mod play with HD edition? If no can you do that?

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Nov 27 2019 Anchor

It need a from the start work to do it in HD. Better to export it in DE, but still missing items in that mod, like the building and unit skins. Need to wait for that to come!

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Emepror_Sid

pavlospap12
pavlospap12 Esquire
Nov 27 2019 Anchor

Okay its cool... you gona export on DE?? fock yeah!!! Keepeup the awesome work!

Paul.

mariurs
mariurs Knight
Nov 30 2019 Anchor

Sid i have a ideea first we need the Hungarian bonuses fixed also hussar line needs 4 melee and pierce armor.

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Nov 30 2019 Anchor

What do you think the hungarian bonus should be? Or any other faction bonus. Till now only Norse and Danes bonus has been finish.

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Emepror_Sid

mariurs
mariurs Knight
Dec 1 2019 Anchor

I think that Hungarians should have bonuses based on the Black Army so research the history of the Hungarian Black Army.

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Dec 1 2019 Anchor

Good, bat what this bonus should be? Like +20% cav attack or -20% cav cost. What you have been thinking about this faction, and the limitation of the game?

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Emepror_Sid

mariurs
mariurs Knight
Dec 1 2019 Anchor

well i would like the Attack Bonus. well the game has it's limitation. As for for the unique tech it should be changed to be one that improves the light cavalry due to the fact that The Black Army had also great light cavalry too also the lack of armor is a huge problem they should have 3 melee and pierce armor, also add a more distinct Magyar Architecture.

SovietPolska
SovietPolska Esquire
Dec 10 2019 Anchor

OMG BRIDGES THAT IS FOOKING AWSOME MAN !

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Dec 10 2019 Anchor

Sorry for the bridges! It was a game rule that can not change map terrain once the game start. It means you can build a bridge but can not change the terrain below, and so cant cross throw the river. I spent a lot of tine on this, before after several fail i read the game rule I mentioned before.

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Emepror_Sid

SovietPolska
SovietPolska Esquire
Dec 11 2019 Anchor

ahh sucks but it's ok. :DDDDDD if i get any ideas i'll post.

PCM has some good skins for some units hope u'll be able to use them the permission of the original author ofc.

would also suggest changing the skins of the ships cuz having demolition ships and the galley's looking the same is somewhat strange the drakkar looks perfect though

mariurs
mariurs Knight
Apr 20 2020 Anchor

i have a plan we need also a technology to improve the attack for the spearmen just like we have for swordsmen

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Apr 21 2020 Anchor

In fact the idea of spearman is to be an outdated unit and weak one in later age, so the player will chose to play with pikeman or halberdiers. There are no known record of effective use of spearman in the 14 and 15 century.

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Emepror_Sid

mariurs
mariurs Knight
Apr 21 2020 Anchor

ok but those attack upgrades would be a welcome for Pikes and Halberdiers because in 14th and 15th centuries Pikes were still widespread alongside halberds.

Edited by: mariurs

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Apr 21 2020 Anchor

The only hand weapon that was constantly upgraded was the sword, the evolution of the sword made the shield nearly useless, to shkrink the shield as low as 20cm. That's why it was reasonable to me to make upgrades to this weapon.

The Pikes and Halberdiers have a lot of attack, not only the main attack (tha it is a piercing attack like all weapons except blunt weapons), they have bonus against every unit. Halberdiers are an imperial age unit, so they are sopose to have all bonus in armor and weapon, as they have.

Don't forget that the Tercios or other similar formation were 1/3 pikeman 1/3 swordsman and 1/3 arquebusier, they were the perfect enemy of the knight (the general purpose warrior). That's why you need a combined army to win, cant use only pikeman or halberdier to defeat the knights.

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Emepror_Sid

mariurs
mariurs Knight
Apr 21 2020 Anchor

you are right from a historical standpoint but still we have probelms with Light cavalry it has 0 armor when mounted while in history even those units had actual armor lancers also had armor historically when mounted.

Emperor_Sid
Emperor_Sid Emperor
Apr 22 2020 Anchor

In fact there are horses with armor. Check all the knights, french Gendarmee, Order knights (in the monastery), Heavy Hussar of Hungarians, Cataphracts of Bizantines, Mamelukes of Fatimids, Kheshig of Mongolia.

Make a costom scenario to see all the units you ca recruit, and you will see their armor, attack and HP.

By the way, I know that Lancers were equiped the same as the knight, but the Light Lancer and Guard Cavalry are not the same as Lancers.

In the end, I think I found a way to include the Italians, and than i really have a need for armored cavalry like the Condotieri. (E aggiungere anche gli Stradioti, i cavalieri albanesi)

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Emepror_Sid

mariurs
mariurs Knight
Apr 22 2020 Anchor

ok now the Koreans and Japanese bonuses and unique tech must be changed to reflect their historic accuracy.

Edited by: mariurs

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