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Amazing work Javitolo. The Phase 1 Clones look brilliant in the full release. Thank you so much!
The textures do make the models look better, but the model is far more important in other ways. I understand what you mean, but the models give a sense of depth and detail that textures alone just can't. I am aware of the textures with no model edits, and while they look good, this mod (yes we are still talking about the mod) is going for a 'Remaster' sort of thing. That's the whole project name anyway, 'Battlefront 2 Remaster Project'. Like, with the recently released Resident Evil 2, compared to the original, the models are DEFINITELY different, and it almost changes the whole atmosphere of the game. Now I have never played any of those games, but seeing a before and after really put things into perspective. Now I know this is like an 'official remaster', and it is also essentially a different game, so it isn't fair to compare it I guess, however, imagine if they just put these amazing, triple-A textures onto the classic low-poly models. It would look quite strange, considering it is a 'remaster' of sorts.
What version of Garry's Mod have you played? I have NEVER crashed when playing with those EA models, and I used the Phase 1 Clone Trooper alot. However, yes, it isn't about graphics with source.
I do not like the new Battlefronts, compared to the originals, they are trash gameplay wise. I stated that the VISUALS were amazing, like, no matter how much I hate the game, I genuinely can't say the game looks terrible. The graphics, models and maps are brilliantly designed and textured. Even using their impressive movie accurate models as a base for improving and creating even better models would be a viable option (for more modern and compatible games of course). I honestly think they should be called 'Star Wars: Battlefield', as 'Battlefront' was something else almost entirely.
I am aware of what texturing is, I've done it before numerous times. I never said that texturing is 'only upscaling', I was referencing your statement earlier, saying that 'if someone is skilled enough with texturing they can add even more detail'. The only way you can really add more detail for textures is by altering the textures, maybe adding scratches on armourplates or adding 'fake visor reflections', or simply upscaling the current textures to make them look better on the original models, but that's about it. Pretty much the only way to actually add 'more detail' is to interact with the models themselves. Adding maybe some macrobinoculars or kamas, stuff like that, or, simply just change the models altogether, just like in this mod.
Are you kidding me? So you are saying the original 2005 models are better than the Garry's Mod ports? The Garry's Mod ones look WAY better than the 2005 models, like what are you even talking about? They may not be as good cause of the 'weak engine' and all that, but the whole model is much more 'detailed' than the 2005 models that are changed only by textures, and even with armour pieces or what not added on. 'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder' I guess...
The EA models are brilliant. Very movie accurate compared to 2005 ones, which makes sense, considering the technology they had back then compared to now. Which models do you refer to that are better than professionals? I understand your last point, but come on, the gameplay of EA's Battlefront 2 may not be anywhere near as good as Battlefront 2005, but it certainly outperforms the original Battlefront 2 in terms of visuals by a long shot. This is why I wanted the playermodels of EA's Battlefront 2 to be put together with Battlefront 2 2005.
Knight45, isn't texturing only dealing with the 'textures'? Meaning the like decal/image that is printed around a 3D model? Adding 'more detail' in this case would mean like upscaling the textures, but if you mean like adding armour pieces and all that, that's part of the model, not the textures, as far as I know.
Yes, a lot of the mods use the vanilla models as a base, and don't get me wrong, I love the original models, but, the Improved Sides Mod just makes the game feel so much more younger than it is. Like the Phase 1 Clone Troopers? They look AMAZING. They even fit quite well with the standard animations in my opinion.
I personally don't like the BF3 models that much, while I do like them to a certain extent and think they are cool, they, to me, don't seem as fresh as they should be for this mod in modern times, and don't seem as movie accurate. They do work though, and I will agree that, of course, the mod team did an absolutely fantastic job with this. I don't really see a problem with the animations however.
Ported models? The Republic Commando mod looks really good, and the models are obviously ported over, they fit really well with the game as well.
And, come on man, you honestly can't say that this (Battlefront 2 (2005)): Simg.nicepng.com
Or this (Battlefront 3): I.imgur.com
Look better than this (Battlefront 2 Garry's Mod Port): Steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net
Or this (Battlefront 2 EA): I.redd.it
Well, that's annoying. Would increasing the poly on the normal models from Battlefront (2005) do anything? The models are quite retro at this point.
Lol, Gametoast was shutdown a while back I think. Force Arena and BF3 can be used but EA can't? So like not even Galaxy of Heroes (nvm saw your screenshot while typing this reply)? Also, how do you even get BF3 models if they are from a cancelled game? Like how would you even acquire them from a game that was never released?
Garry's Mod must have had the same/similar guidelines as the mod I was referring to got 'DMCA Claimed' relatively quickly, however a complete reupload and it's still there with no repercussions. (Side Note: The reupload of the mod is live and well now, but here when I say 'the mod', I am referring to the ORIGINAL mod that got taken down. I had both, not at the same time but I had one at least once in time.)
Well at least, according to that screenshot you posted, we can now do a new mod that hasn't been done before, and it's revolutionary, trust me. It will change Battlefront 2 (2005) forever. Are you ready?
How about... a Lego Star Wars mod? Replacing every single playermodel and character with their Lego Star Wars counterparts? We have like 50+ Clone Wars (TV Show) mods, a couple Sequel Era mods, and yet NO Lego Star Wars ones! I mean, come on, all the assets are there, and it's allowed according to that post! (LOL)
If EA models aren't allowed, then with that same logic, shouldn't the BF3 models not be allowed either? Even if the publisher has been shut down, it is still taking and using the game assets. Also, how come that Garry's Mod mod I linked hasn't been taken down for the second time? If it really is a big issue being illegal, then wouldn't they clamp down on it again?
A: The link doesn't work for me
B: True, I agree with that... oof, however maybe it could be like downgraded to the visual quality of the Improved Sides Mod right now? Cause right now the mod looks pretty amazing, all I'm asking for is just the playermodels to be ported into the game, and yes I know it's a very tedious thing to do and it seems like I don't know what I'm talking about but like, we don't neccesarily need the shaders and environmental interaction and all that. Just the fundamental and core parts of the playermodels to be ported in, such as just the overall playermodel, and then the textures. That's it.
C: True again... mega oof, although you can't lie, it would be AMAZING if the gameplay of Battlefront 2 (2005) was combined with the visuals of EA's Battlefront 2
Thanks for the response though.
The next step for this mod in my opinion, is getting EA Battlefront 2's playermodels into the mod, maybe for version 2.0 or something? Even though EA's Battlefront 2 isn't as good as the original Battlefront 2, the graphics and playermodels are amazing and very movie-accurate. Combining the gameplay of Battlefront 2 (2005), and the graphics/playermodels of EA's Battlefront 2, would make an amazing combination in my opinion, and almost a whole new game. There have been 'DMCA' claims before but now that the game has been released, Disney don't seem to mind anymore. For example on Garry's Mod, this mod that added EA's Battlefront 2 playermodels to the game got taken down, but then after a while the mod got reuploaded and has stayed 'live' ever since. This to me seems like a possible 'go ahead' from EA and Disney. You can see the reuploaded version of the mod I am referring to here: Steamcommunity.com
Hey Javitolo98, I was wondering, which files in the 'side' folder are the ones for the Phase 1 Clone Troopers? Also what is the difference between 'rep' and 'repshell'? Does one contain the Phase 1 Clone Troopers and the other contain the Phase 2 Clone Troopers? Oh and is it possible to mix the different sides of this mod to fight against each other? For example, could I make the original/classic Clone Troopers fight the Improved Sides mod Droids?
For me, the Phase 1 Republic part of the Improved Sides Mod is enough to be honest. You got the models, animations, pretty much everything right. Like if the mod was just that, I'd be happy, but then you went ahead and remastered the rest too? That is legendary. Like the Dark Trooper for the Empire, oh my god, he looks like a beast. Thanks again for everything.
Just tried the mod, and I have to say... Fantastic work! I was waiting for the proper release and it was worth the wait! The Republic Clone Troopers (Phase 1) are the most impressive characters in the game and my favourite remastered side in this mod. Thank you so much for making this!
Had no idea this mod fully released. I guess it's finally time to check it out!
Oh really? Wow, then it is perfect timing then. :D
I really meant everything I said there, like the things I wanted in mods for Star Wars Battlefront 2 were, player customization, AI Heroes (I always thought, if there is a capability for AI heroes in Hero Assault, why not add them in the normal gamemodes?), improved visuals for the in-game sides/playermodels, vehicle cockpits, third person camera offset etc. And everything is actually in this mod which I can't believe.
Are you sure you didn't make this mod with me in mind? XD
Again, thank you so much for this mod.
I'm so confused.
This mod is literally everything I've been looking for in mods for Star Wars: Battlefront 2 in one whole package.
I am honestly shocked as to how smooth and amazing it actually is, and that it took me this long to find it.
This is probably going to be my favourite mod so far, it is actually amazing, I can't even describe how amazing it is.
Thank you so much for making this mod.
(Again, I still can't believe how long it took me to find this...)
Does it really matter?
My thoughts exactly.
As mentioned, it could be taken down, but not if they never know... >:D
No, I don't wanna go...
Yeah, it sure is.
No problem man, I understand.
Service_Disconnect, I think this mod is really cool.... but.
It changes the 'Use' button to 'O', and I can't use the other outfits because... well, I don't have the Upper Echelon pack...
I'd love to use Spy and Merc suits in Single player, could you replace a suit that you think is the least used and make a new mod, like a 'Splinter Cell: Blacklist Skins Mod'?
It's a shame because I really want to use this mod, but it doesn't let me because the Spies and Mercs have no hands or feet, and as you say, that can cause game instability.
I've never hit the download button so fast. Just gave me another reason to play Star Wars Jedi Academy, not that there wasn't any in the first place.
Thank you so much for this Javitolo98! I have been waiting for this for ages now!
Thanks for the speedy reply, Javitolo98.
Sounds good, i don't care if it's a Beta, I need that realistic Phase 1 Clone now!!!
The rep.lvl file is where everything goes? But how do you edit it? It doesn't let you change it. And if you do, wouldn't that change the phase 2 clones as well? Like if I was to use your Improved Ep3 Clone model, it goes with the 'Rep.lvl' file right? So doesn't that mean it all changes?
(By the way sorry for misspelling 'Release', lol)
Releasee this part of the mod soon please! I absolutely need it!!! It is amazing!
By the way, what is the game file for PHASE 1 Clone Troopers, not the 'rep.lvl' which is Phase 2. What's the name of that? Please let me know, thanks, CamoFlash7.
Amazing mod Javitolo98! Would love to work on this mod with you too, but it seems you're already doing just fine.