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There was a funny moment in HW2 beginning: was told that the taii have JOINED the vaygr.

For me it's quite nonsense. Of course, the original HW/HWC script writer wrote a book where Russian & China have made united country (this script is one of the usual stupid beliefs about Russia, among the "bears walking in the cities" and balalaika, vodka, ushanka, perestroika), but he made the Taiidani Republic exist.
If we take the vay-gr as the chinese, and the taiidani as Soviet, now russians, does it make sence? Okey, for somebody - yes, but not for russians. These are two very different cultures. It's more likely that Russia joines the EU than the China, that already is hardly believable. I guess, the West simply misses that old understandable Cold War enemy. The China and the Islamic countries are quite chaotic, and it's unclear how to fight with country that makes you rich (low cost production), or with the religion, that calls it's zealots to conquer the infidels and denies all the Western values. The Soviets were so simple! :)

The same goes here: after these words I felt like V & T had such of a conversation:
- Hey, guys! Where are you going?
- To Hiigara!
- Oh, yeah? Take us with you!

Another one absolute evil. As the Taii Emperor, as the Turanic Raiders, as the T-Mat, as the Beast...

But okey. Actually, we can think of these words as the official Hiigarian propaganda. Like every country, it has the official position to this and that question, and tries to convince it's people that it is true - to make it easier to manipulate. It's not always bad, but usually it's not good. Like "everybody lies" (c) Dr. Haus.

Let's remember what happend when the Exiles returned from the Hegira. They did - what? - the same thing that the taiidans made with them. And again I really doubt that they could make the billion population world (the capitol of the Taii Empire!) disappear. They really did the same thing with the taiidanies, just more cruel.

They haven't let go the ones who were guilty of Kharak massacre. They made the taiidans - the ones that came from the other taii worlds, and the ones that were hiigarian descendants - the citizens of the 2nd sort (like it happened with russians in post-soviet republics), thus building the "Golden Billion" system and following the Siidim way - dividing people into pure and unpure gritiidims...

Of course, this circumstance was quite annoying to the new Taiidani Republic and it's people, but they needed this "formal non-aggression and co-operation pact" and further in-law relationships for normal existance in Galactic Council. But still, after the threat of the taii imperialists has dissappeared, everybody remembered that taiidani were empire once! And they could do it one more time! Especially, as many lords of taiidani empire assembly were presented in Republic government. So, no matter how tried, taiidans were bad...

So when the Makkan came, he said - "join us or die", and the taii imperialists agreed, as they were too weak to resist, and Makaan really represented their forgotten claim for Hiigara and Emperor. But the republicans were fighting - they had things to lose, but they could not resist the uberlong hyperspace jumps of Makaan fleet: while they were gathering fleet at one point, he was far away. And I think he made the same trick with taiidani, as the the taiidani made with Kharak: he said "Give up, or I will destroy the Taidan, your homeworld!"...

And thus came out that the taii have JOINED the vaygr...

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Raygoza
Raygoza

AS memebers of the galactic council wouyldn't it have been possible to resist Makaans threat or do something at all?

As for the Taiidan being nonexistent in HW2 is not justified, joining the Vaygr would probably not make the Taiidan stop producing their ships completely, which is also something I want to point out, I'm sure they'd keep improving their ships and not just adopt the Vaygr ones and be completely fine with working under the Vaygr.
I expect some power struggles or plans on leaving the Vaygr at least.

Though it's like a 60 years at least between HW1 and HW2 if I recall correctly.

Could someone clarify this?

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AmDDRed Author
AmDDRed

It's 100 years after Catalysm events (or 115 after HW1).

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Raygoza
Raygoza

Still, does my point hold true or not?
Would the Taiidani abandon their designs?

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AmDDRed Author
AmDDRed

I've tried to analyze this thing here:
Moddb.com

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