My own suggestions for Tiberium Essence Thread - Tiberium Essence Fans

HI

Thank YOU

1 and 2 - i keep improving visual part of my mod over time, but its long process.
Most effects are choice by taste and also im not so keen to copy other mods.

3 - its one of the possible ways this mod can go in 1.6.
I must admit that im really fond of idea to see naval warfare in TE, i will explore this possibility in future.

4 - why? I think they are ok, really.

1, 2, 4, i see no point in
3, would be totally epic.

1, 2 and 4 serves no point at all.

Nr 3 goes against the canon we are following. The seas and waterways were clogged by Tiberium after the First Tiberium War, hence GDIs heavy focus on their dropships launched from space stations.
The one and only reason there are ships in C&C3 is because in EA's version Tiberium changed from a plant/lifeform into just a radioactive crystal.

P.S I hope you dont mind I edit your title to one that makes a bit more sense.

Edited by: TheNodCommander

Agreed, but, but, sea warfare is so fucking awesome!

Thank you all

What I can pull out of that is a few good suggestions, and some that are less than satisfactory.
Things I will agree with would be an advanced power plant, but that idea will likely be shot down on the basis for the power plant upgrades.
A harvester upgrade does sound useful, and I don't think I can actually refute that one, without testing it for balance.
GDI Does need some non ammo aircraft...
Being able to build turrets in the walls would be a great thing to add, but I don't think it's codeable.
And yes Carnius, I want more team colours

As to everything else:
Turrets and other defensive structures are just that: Structures. They are a static emplacement meant for one thing: Standing between the enemy, and your base.
Adding a super unit for both Scrin and Nod would be contrary to the teams play styles. Nod is meant for hit and run, whereas Scrin is meant to have air power (which they are sorely lacking)
Carnius already tried flame turrets (or something similar) and found they didn't work to well.
Nod AA is mostly fine. It's biggest problem, is that its a missile defense.
Upgrading flame weapons as a whole makes no sense, due to the chemicals needed. Although maybe upgrading them to tiberium flames would work?
I don't know what a 'judgement tank' is so I'll just leave that one be.
The wallpaper is fine. If you want to change it, there are tutorials for that.
Adding a new faction would, at the time, be a massive waste of time. Lore wise, it would make no sense, as The Fallen practically disbanded after the events of Tiberian Sun, and no other faction is powerful enough to do anything.
As SmallChange said, As fun as navel combat would be, it doesn't fit canon.
Carnius can't add (many) more units. The game only allows for 12 items to be displayed in the interface.

so you just agree the more color for teams right ?

and how about these ideas :

why we can't see the map at the starting the game
kw have fixed this bug of TW

and cost of unit and structures are expensive and it take along time to create some unit and structure

Both of those are meant to happen. You don't get radar for Nod/GDI until you build the radar building. Scrin gets radar right off the hop to show their tech is better than human tech.
Also, the more something costs, the longer it takes to build. There's an equation out there somewhere, but Carnius changed a few things, so it won't be as accurate.

Also, I agree with more than just colours. It's just that all the other ideas I like, aren't feasible, via coding, or similar function buildings.

Edited by: GoldenArbiter

I'm usually in favor of having more choices and it'd be fun to have more color options (not sure how many more colors you guys were thinking), but realistically, I think it isn't necessary because if we added even just a handful more, it can cause confusion. I mean it worked for Dawn of War, especially since we had two color combos to be more unique from one player to another. As for TE though, where we only have 1 base color option, we need to be more careful and only have a couple of each color type - (sometimes) light; normal; dark - otherwise it'd be harder to tell teammate from foe, or your own from another. Sure we can always guess and select, but we really should be able to tell just by looking at them, even while doing some scrolling around. I am happy with the colors already present for TE, but if we were to add a few more colors and as long as everyone has no trouble telling all of them apart in-game, I guess I can see a dark green (not light green, otherwise it might interfere with the green on radar representing tiberium) and dark blue being added - since we have a dark red and dark yellow already (orange can be the dark yellow). I like black but please, no black or brown - in this case, it really would not look good and they would be difficult to see on radar.

I would strongly urge, however, that we be okay with taking out the playable cream/whitish color, as that color should solely represent a neutral/civilian unit/structure - this really should not be a playable color.

The two colours I want added (white and black) you think they shouldn't be...... Oh well. I say we add em, test em, and if it turns out looking like crap, then we remove em.

I am assuming Carnius has already played around with the color pallet to see and compare what works, but if not, I'm all for us testing any for him if there's some he's not sure of - especially while using any new unit/structure designs he might've come up with recently

RE: waterways being clogged by tiberium growth, i'm pretty sure those boffins in the GDI Tech Labs will have thought of something over the years (possibly using disruptor technology) to clear away the harmful crystals, and i'm sure it's not beyond the Brotherhood to use some bootlegged Scrin (vibration?) technology to similar effect and open up secret supply lines away from GDI's prying eyes. I see no reason for naval battles not to be cannon as long as we understand the situation has developed since TS & FS days... it really is too tantalising a possibility to pass up, and it can be made plausible within the universe. Although i'm not sure scrin would have ANY naval units.