Men of War: Assault Squad 2 Windows game

I count myself to the "old modders" with more than 2k hours in AS1 and still I'm not really satisfied with AS2.
Sure I see all the improvements on the engine and all the stuff you just mentioned but still I think the game is heading in the wrong direction.
Its getting more and more arcadish and feels more and more like a CoH(1) clone. No improvements on Infantry models or animations. The AI is untouched since ages...

Don't get me wrong I like the game but they really shouldn't try to create a CoH clone. And I understand some of the criticism and don't think the community is different from the one back in 2011.

I think for this game you have two types of RTS players, Arma/Battlefield 2 and CoH/Relic Games. Arma players want increased attention to details. Crouch walking, severe wounds, realistic damage and range. All top Down with things like helicopters, rope drops from helicopters, wounded troop carry, improved vehicles and options for them. Etc.

Battelfield 2 players want options, more vehicles, more buildings, larger maps, bigger campaigns, more troops. More explosions and skirmish modes.

Now CoH players want something easy to play Just groups of units shooting each other like decks of cards Jack loses to King Queen beats Jack Jack beats 10, 9 beats 8, Jack beats 8, Ace beats King. Cover doesnt matter, map doesnt map, terrain doesnt matter. Just decks of cards.

We can see that with a CoH you get more $$$$$. So they believe it will be good for the series, but short of removing inventory system this game will never be as simple as CoH. So I don't know they'll just make hardcore fans question their judgement for a niche genre game either way which will never achieve CoH sells. And look CoH 2 is a joke already.

Surely there are a lot of concerning matters, namely :
<> DMS is drifting away from low-mid tier systems, it is unquestionable that AS and AS2 have a colossal performance difference.

<> Ingame changes are also ill-placed, while the german mg nerfs where needed, guns' range reduction and reduced resources per minute is a big step backwards. Also the level system which presumably was supposed to be used as motivation for competition is plain wrong, mainly because you can't get vital counter units for your first 30 games for each nation.

<> Last but not least, after all those multiplayer games on AS2 I rarely feel playing a MOW series game, I have lost more soldiers by trying to cook a grenade only for the game to freeze for a handful of moments and lose the poor bastard as well as most soldiers in the vicinity. Specifically, don't even try to play ranked, most of the times you will get teamed up with some random bloke -having an expedition in Antartica- and ping will skyrocket.

The only game that left me more disappointed has been Stronghold3

Yes you're right there Hinkel. I also forgot to add you to the Old Modder Paragraph

Firstly, like most mow games as2 is mostly meant to be played on multiplayer and by bearing in mind that the singleplayer with mods attached gives you at most 100h -based on todays data- and that if you play on heroic, then you realise the anger/frustration that is depicted on sites like moddb, stems from the game-breaking features which where altered on as2 multiplayer. I am unsure what engine modifications and resource management changes they made but try to run farmland on as1 and as2 and the fps drop is horrendous without much visual alterations.

Furthermore the modding community can't really help it and that is demonstrated by the fact that after 3½ years of mowas on steam ,the only multiplayer mod with a relatively lasting playerbase is gsm and the rest play vanilla of course.

Anyways, as1 was in a similar but much better stage when it was released although dms was on a schedule back then, on the contrary they don't seem to be on pressure nowadays, frankly though if you ignore their designated system requirements and get a mid tier pc, hopefully this game will have all that was promised on release date and a solid multiplayer by the end of the year.

Me and other modders, yes, the "old team" of modders have over 500h singleplayer. And we do roll in Heroic. It might be that only some individuals have problems in heroic because the enemy is hidden until discoveres. AS2 is WIP and it has the potential to become flawless by the end of the year.

As I said AS2 offers a MUCH better modding platform and I suggest that you read the changelog, as well as comments from modders to developers claiming this. Get informed mate.

Every game is a WIP but most are before release, not after.You apparently are not aware that there are poeple with 5-6k hours on multiplayer and have never used a mod or addon. I am inclined to believe given your experience that you are not too ignorant to think that poeple buy a game to test its modding prowess,as a devestating percentage play it unmodded anyways. Last but not least, you can't balance the lack of content and recyclement of as1 missions which alone is outrageous for a better modding platform. Devs don't sell you an engine for you to build upon but products based on the engine, your supperiority complex is disturbing. Refrain from using capital letters to highlight something as they look somewhat idiotic.

Regardless on what people do or might not do. Its about mods over here at MOD DB. And though I appreciate your point, and I aggree recycling AS1 missions and old models is not professional, I am saying that for a modder at moddb, AS2 is the way to go.

It will take a **** load of time, not to mention how the engine can end up being ****** lol.

First of all the workshop is trash, you cannot easily upload anything you make, you cant even host links or a page to your mod without it being listed through some crappy browser. And when you try to download it youre FORCED to use steams crappy upload greenbar/redbar loader for the mod just to hope it shows up in your folder.

Now second, WHY HAVE A MODDB PAGE IF YOU CANNOT UPLOAD MODS TO IT HOW ARE YOU DEFENDING THAT LOGIC? THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. So, if you truly want to defend legal downloads and hate pirating petition them to REMOVE this game from Moddb because it doesn't NEED A [MOD]DB PAGE IF YOU DONT WANT IT TO HAVE MODS.
Having said all of that, the game is a joke. So I don't care either way, they are heading away from the old style Men of War/Soldiers Heroes and more towards arcade style. Just look at gameplay footage of Call to Arms. Bleh.

Why out of the blue you feel the urgue to express your afflicting opinion which is nothing but dentrimental towards others whose contributions are noteworthy. Judging by your lack of particular cognitive abilities and use of movie phrases you are nothing more than a 180 month old imbecile.

@KingKetsa - yo kid, complain somewhere else. just if you didn't realised it yet, you are kinda outnumbered here with your opinion. And by the way, whats your problem with private_scoop? we can discuss about that any time you low life scum. PS: "Greece got occupied" - You think that gives america a point? you want it that way? OK! - USA lost the vietnam war. point for greece! ;P

Every single one of you using your country's alleged dominance as a leverage brings tears to my eyes, USSR might have collapsed but USA is striding on the same road of decline, you have an unprecenteded debt to China and they are manipulating you for further future control. As for Greece, it gave birth to most notions, you could contemplate whether or not there would be the french and american revolutions as well american civil war be it without them. Well enough said,I am inclined to believe there is no need for further elaboration as I have a strong feeling all you live for is ******* your girlfriend during the weekends and asking paternal money to buy a mustang.