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Add file Report Bolognese Gore Mod v2.0
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A mod-friendly universal gore mod for Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom, Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Hacx, FreeDoom, and anything else you can run on Zandronum/GZDoom.

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Bolognese Gore Mod v2.0
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Autoclave
Autoclave

This is a really cool concept.

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The-Turkish-Man
The-Turkish-Man

Awesome!!!

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eviltechno
eviltechno

The only difference i see in v2.0 versus Bolognese v1.0 is now some strange red cloud is coming out of enemies. Looks like not rendered properly. Like on low grapics mode or something. Is that intentionally?

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TheDramaticSkull
TheDramaticSkull

That's called blood mist lol

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Ok, let's call it blood mist.
It's much different to BD21 and Bolognese 1.0 To me it looks too much repetitive.

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TheDramaticSkull
TheDramaticSkull

How can something look different and repetitive? I don't quite understand.

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eviltechno
eviltechno

I mean it looks different compared to BD21 and the other bolognese version. Bolognese 1.0 looked almost as good as BD21. The new blood mist now looks too much obvious and less random. And things looking a bit random (aka. not always look the same despite using the same sprites all over again) was what made BD21 blood effects so good for me.

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Linus.Hyper
Linus.Hyper

LOL YES!

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Guest
Guest

Archviles still revive invisible gibbed Chaingunners, easily testable on Plutonia Map01.

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rileymartin
rileymartin

Yeah, can confirm and this is a rather major issue. Happens anywhere where Viles and gibbed Chaingunners are involved.

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Happens with all enemies. Don't know why you guys only mention chaingunners.

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Louco-Diamante
Louco-Diamante

Mancubus sprite doesnt vanish after its gib explosion

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Guest
Guest

The sprite vanishes fine on my end here. No issues with fatso.

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eviltechno
eviltechno

I noticed this a few times as well, but i thought it's because the map packs/gameplay mods i was using (non default monsters)
Turns out it's always like that unless you are playing singleplayer/offline. I reported this in mark's bug forum.

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dmarti880
dmarti880

Yeah, Im not really into how that blood mist looks.

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Finally. I thought it's only me. One thing i noticed and might be the real issue here, that the mist effect does not vanish as quick as in BD21 or bolognese 1.0. It's not synchronized with the other effects, if that makes any sense. It should vanish much quicker so it's not as obvious.

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themarine141
themarine141

Please remove the blood mist. It takes away the "realism" or put an option that would turn it off

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SoundOfDarkness
SoundOfDarkness

Unfortunately it doesn't work with Zio McCall's Brutal Wolfenstein. It can be loaded together with BW but even if it's loaded after BW the mod still uses BW blood effects and decals. Changing the blood amount doesn't do anything either.

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Can confirm. Other mod where it doesn't work is Alien trilogy.

Though, shooting dead bodies in Brutal wolfenstein make them bleed with bolognese blood.

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themarine141
themarine141

Ey. Why do you need red blood for a xenomorph? It has its own blood sprite. Which is already good for the mod itself

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Obviously i want green blood. If bolognese worked people could make a color addon.
but yea, there's nothing wrong with that mod. Just that the gore of "Aliens the ultimate doom" is a bit more entertaining. That mod's gore is based on BD 20, if i got it right.

No big deal. Just tested some mods i liked, to see if bolognese works with them.

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Guest
Guest

Cacodemons, Hell Knights, and Barons still have red blood. Will there be any addition of blue and green blood?

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Panzermann11
Panzermann11

It does now!

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Guest
Guest

Script error, "sm4BBgorev2.pk3:cvarinfo" line 1:
cvar 'bd_bloodamount' already exists

It either references the sm4BBgorev2.pk3 or the brutal doom bd21rc3.pk3 depending on what I load last. Any ideas how to get rid of that? :(

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Author: "You can even remove the CVARs and load it with Brutal Doom to get Brutal Brutal Doom."

Open bolognese with winrar and delete the cvarinfo file. Or better open that file with notepad++ and delete everything but "server int bd_mingibhealth = -20;" That way you can still use that option and not have all enemies gib all the time.

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Lampenpam
Lampenpam

why the **** would you load them together?

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Yea, i have no idea. Blood level 3 on BD is more than enough for me. Let alone setting 4 or 5 and especially running another blood mod on top of it.. To each his own i guess.

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sarge945
sarge945

You're not supposed to use this with brutal doom. You use it instead of brutal doom for when you only want the blood and not the gameplay/weapon changes

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Now the kids want "Brutal Brutal Doom". Thanks to Mark's description.

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sarge945
sarge945

Yes, but the description also says that to get this working with Brutal Doom requires editing it.

If you want to run this will brutal Doom you need to do the following:

1. Make a copy of the pk3 file. Call it Bolognese_brutal. Pk3 or something. Name doesn't matter.
2.You need to open the new archive, go into the cvarinfo file and remove any line where the command starts with bd_
3. Save it and update the archive.

Use that version with Brutal Doom and the original version with everything else.

If that doesn't make sense to you, then I'm afraid you can't run this with Brutal Doom, but it would be mostly pointless anyway since brutal Doom already does most of this.

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Guest
Guest

how to load it please?? drag the files together with bd.pk3 and wad file to gzdoom.exe????

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bfg_900000
bfg_900000

Your not supposed to run it with Brutal Doom unless you remove the CVARs, read above post on how to remove the CVARs

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Panzermann11
Panzermann11

I only liked how the blood mist looked in the first version. The blood mist now looks too circle and simplistic, and accoding to eviltechno, the vanishing speed is inconsistent to other blood parts. Maybe optimazation, perhaps?

But hey, at least optional colored blood for cacodemons and hell knights/barons is a good addition to version 2.

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Mark tried to fix the problem from v1.0 that often the view is blocked with blood on close-range combat, but at which costs? I'm pretty sure the blood mist was not the problem in 1.0, as it was fine in BD21 and didn't look much different in Bolognese 1.0 The blood effects are pretty much perfect in BD21 IMO. I don't know why he didn't just make it the same in bolognese. (even worse, on twitter he wrote that he is already converting bolognese 2.0 to BD 21...)

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Panzermann11
Panzermann11

Maybe the blood mist was changed because of optimazation or gameplay or something IDK.

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sarge945
sarge945

If the blood mist is created with sprites, you can probably copy over those files from version 1 if you know what you're doing

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eviltechno
eviltechno

That's the first thing i did. That doesn't fix the mist being on screen for too long. Plus it doesn't work for the blood color addons. Still makes it ten times better compared to untouched 2.0 (+ the chaingunner is still invisible after getting revived by an archvile. Though that happens too rare to be a real issue. I'm sure mark will fix this in the next versions.)

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DawnHibiki
DawnHibiki

I restored the Blood Mist from v1 to v2 by using Slade. In TomatoSauce.txt, I copied the actors SuperGore and SuperGoreMistTiny from v1, then I pasted them over the ones in v2. I also copied the BLER and BLOR sprites from v1. The Blood Mist looks alot better to me now, because I won't have to deal with the long, repetitive red clouds.

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Thanks for sharing

edit:
That actually did the trick. Better than the lazy sprite paste edit i was using. Gj

edit2:
When using the addon for the monsters with green blood the mist still looks a bit v2'ish.

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Guest
Guest

whats the diffrence between v2 and v1?

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DawnHibiki
DawnHibiki

The difference between them is that in v2, there's the annoying blood mist that comes out from bullet firings, and it takes away the 'realism' of gore. The blood mist in v1 was excellent, and it should've kept that way. I edited the v2 to restore the v1 Blood Mist.

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Pardogatto
Pardogatto

I dont understand...is this the sequel of Brutal Doom Monsters Only (the one you made a video on your YouTube)?
Is this gore only and leaves monsters untouched or the monsters have the same abilities like in Brutal Doom?
For example will the marines have assault rifles?

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eviltechno
eviltechno

It's the sequel to ketchup. With BD21 blood effects + now enemies explode with gibs and body pieces (were the latest ketchup ohne makes a big blood splash, older versions of ketchup had BD20 gibs if i remember right)

It's coded different to support ~90% of the gameplay mods. I think the gore for enemy explosions work in about 99% of the mods, if not all.

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Guest
Guest

So the monsters dont have any of the enhanced stuff that come with Brutal Doom? They are like vanilla monsters?

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eviltechno
eviltechno

Yes it's definitely not the "monsters only" version of Brutal Doom 21. I don't know if mark is going to make this after BD21 is finished. Many people are waiting for this, just as the release of Extermination Day , a.k.a Hell on Earth starter pack. I think monsters only has zero priority for mark at this point, but who knows.

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thedeathrunner
thedeathrunner

I do. Because this may have the gore and stuff, and more compatibility with mods (such as reelism) but BD monster only has the dismemberment and better gore (such as being able to shoot a zombie mans jaw off) And bdv21 expands on that (for ex. archvilles now has limbs and head)

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