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Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Synergy has implemented an auto-voting system that makes any registered user that visits the page automatically vote for synergy for moty(see dot below their link to the MOTY page), this is why it is currently winning. when i asked about it on their forums i was suspended and spammed with junk mail and subscriptions to random tihngs(mainly porn) and i am surprised that they have done this(I voted for them before this event), but I think this constitutes for elimination from the moty competition. Please act accordingly


-fragged131

Nov 20 2006 Anchor

sorry, i posted this in the wrong thread. please move it to MOTY disscussion.

Topherm
Topherm VSP - It's Viciously Addictive
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

heh heh maybe there cheating but this left you wide open for.. 'maybe the porn is always getting sent there..' heh you said accordingly..
no-one likes cheaters especially if they don't deserve to win.. (heh, haven't look at synergy yet..)

Grobi
Grobi Game designs lumpy interior.
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Why bother cheating in a competition like this? I hope justice is carried out soon enough.

Nov 20 2006 Anchor

It's unethical and stupid. They will most probably be disqualified and get banned or similiar, why ruin reputation?

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BlueWolf72
BlueWolf72 Mod Till Ya Die
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

I dont think they can get multi votes, scott doesnt use basic code when he does this i just dont see how they can be cheating. Some are cheating with creating double accounts but scott is aware of this and he assured me that he will catch cheaters

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Dragonlord
Dragonlord Linux-Dragon of quick wit and sharp tongue
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Geez... how low can people get trying to cheat on such a competition. This is now not about Synergy in particular as I have no idea if they really pulled something off like this or not and I don't care as I never heard of them anyways :D .

jacksonj04
jacksonj04 Over 9000
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

We'll be looking into this. If we discover they have been cheating... well. Permanent disqualification from the competition is about the norm.

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JonnyQuattro
JonnyQuattro Synergy Manager
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Its not for mod of the year.
Registered supporters that are on the forums only vote for the top100. Not mod of the year.
Simple Publicity

If you want to eliminate for false accusations. Be my guest.

Ps.
Thats why your account is suspended, Cause of False Accusations.

Dragonlord
Dragonlord Linux-Dragon of quick wit and sharp tongue
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Platinum_JQ wrote: Thats why your account is suspended, Cause of False Accusations.

Two possible scenarios, both bad:

1) He's right and you cover up => very bad

2) He got something wrong and you banned him => you failed as moderator/admin

You can't just ban somebody for "misunderstanding" something. It's called "communication" hence telling him what the true intention is and not just banning him as this way you look like somebody covering up a fishy move.

ambershee
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Platinum_JQ wrote: Registered supporters that are on the forums only vote for the top100. Not mod of the year.


That, in my opinion is still rather heinous.

JonnyQuattro
JonnyQuattro Synergy Manager
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

1 ) I dont have to cover anything. My post above says go ahead and eliminate. WOW Oh my god im hiding so much if Im simply saying if you want to eliminate go ahead.

2 ) Dont tell me how to run MY forums.

We get accused of alot. Thats how we deal with it.

Dragonlord
Dragonlord Linux-Dragon of quick wit and sharp tongue
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Platinum_JQ wrote: 2 ) Dont tell me how to run MY forums.

We get accused of alot. Thats how we deal with it.

Most probably this is the reason. Just because it is YOUR forum doesn't mean you can be a crappy mod/admin. This is a responsible task no matter if it is on your forum or the forum of somebody else.

People with this behavior I would not suggest as mod/admin as they are more dangerous then helpful.

JonnyQuattro
JonnyQuattro Synergy Manager
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Have you ever gotten accused of something you havent done?

And if you read up on the forums. I do help. (Atleast I think so)

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Dragonlord
Dragonlord Linux-Dragon of quick wit and sharp tongue
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Platinum_JQ wrote: Have you ever gotten accused of something you havent done?

Sure I have and more than I wish for but slamming the door on those who do is simply said the wrong thing. Banning people is admitting guilt, talking is gold. Banning should only be used if somebody misbehaves repeatedly and you placed an official warning already. Banning is a final resort and not muffling tool.

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Edited by (in order): Dragonlord, Dragonlord

ambershee
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

"Original wrote: Has anyone noticed that if you visit this forum that you automatically vote for synergy in the modb(i did anyway), but seriously, wtf guys? you don't have to cheat.

proof: check the dot right under the link to the moddb page at the main page of the forum.


"Platinum_JQ's wrote: Registered users only vote automatically.
Guests are not permitted to vote.

Its not cheating its publicity.

Billboard or piece of paper?
nuff said.

PS:
Dont visit the forums if you dont want to vote for us. That simple.

And I'm bieng very respectfull so dont send me messages about this.

If you got a problem PM me i'll mask you an "Un-Supporter Mask" You dont have to support us. I just figured you go as far as posting on the forums. You gotto be a voter no? Its not like you cant vote for others anyway.


"fragged131's wrote: but yet you didn't tell any registering user that they will auto-vote for synergy at all, unless its in a disclaimer, but even then you guys really dont need to cheat like this, just because someone likes to talk about this mod here, doesn't mean he should vote for it.

ps: I already had voted for you on moddb because I thought you were the best mod out there and I fully support this mod(just needs more west coast servers).

EDIT: i have found nothing in the disclaimer that says anything about auto-voting for moddb(or any auto-voting at all) anf therefore i will report you to the moddb to have you removed from the moty.


"Platinum_JQ's wrote: Its not for mod of the year!!!! . Its for Top 100 Publicity.

We dont plan on cheating for mod of the year. Or even recieving mod of the year.

If it comes to us. It just does.

If you registered to complain do tell me.

Edit : See if I really care . Get the F*ck out.


Posted so ModDB users can make up their own minds.


On a semi-related note, one has to question why you get accused of things of things a lot, and why you deal with it in what I believe to be such a poor manner.

JonnyQuattro
JonnyQuattro Synergy Manager
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

We used to get accused of stealing from other mods and other sites constantly. Except nobody reads up on the credits of who made those models/maps.

And my Poor manner's the only one I got to ignorant people.

He thought it was for mod of the year. Which it isnt. Is still not and will never be.
Eliminate if you want im completely serious.

To me Moddings an inspiration/hobby not a competition to see how many of your friends to click vote MOTY for your own mod.

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Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Im sorry I had got that wrong(it was 6am and i read it wrong).
But still you should have given me a chance to atone for my mistake, i didn't know.
Still using that feature for publicity is really not cool, and personally I like your mod(im still wondering why it took so long just for beta 2, its mostly material that has been made before).

mp5k was made from a skin for smg1.

combine machine gun is from the ar2 mkII model.

the medkit model is not that great and doesn't do enough to do anything(OC version is much better)

The bobing left and right is in several other mods

The Hands model and punching are the only models that you made from scratch(from what i know)

and the new player models are kinda low-poly(where is the killzone soldier and agent smith!?!!!?)

and the maps are ok.

skids and the obsidian team have made a more original mod, synergy is just a shit ton of stuff thrown together.

Jambozal
Jambozal Non-veteran ♥
Nov 20 2006 Anchor

scripts for making any user (registered or not) vote for the topsites without a user's direct contribution (eg clicking on the link THEMSELVES) are illegal under ModDB TOS. It's not publicity, it's against the rules. Expect a reprimand from ModDB.

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Nov 20 2006 Anchor

Situation averted. Turns out it was just a misunderstanding.

If something needs to be done, we will make a decision.

Edited by: Karuto

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