Add addon Rise of the Reds ECA Panzer Buff patch for 1.86
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If you like the German Leopard tanks in Rise of the Reds, this patch for 1.86 is for you!. The Some ECA Tanks in this patch has been rebuffed to become the superior tank in the game. Especially rebuff the ECA infantry.

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Rise of the Reds ECA Panzer Buff patch for 1.86
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AlphaZulu
AlphaZulu

Sehr gut!

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Keine Vegessen.... Guck mal das video Youtu.be

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Armalite-Wojak
Armalite-Wojak

Very balance, such wow.

Only kidding, I get the point.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Is it really overpowered? I will change it? I'm being serious, the Russian AI was to utilize a lot of Airpower

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MaelstromX103
MaelstromX103

Well you made ECA capable to compete with Russia in a head-on fight, which is not supposed to happen.
I will detail:
- Buffs to infantry: either buffs will be even bigger with Venom, or you nerfed Venom infantry, which makes this protocol even less appealing
- Gepard: It was good enough, it is the only anti-air/anti-infantry with area-of-effect (not counting quads with canister rounds)
- Manticore: It already has an insane rate of repair + nano-shield. Stealth is making it broken as hell.
- Turrets buffs: Skyshield is the most powerful basic AA defense. No need to buff it further. Again, it scales with an upgrade. However, I agree that gun turret gould get a buff.
- Jagdmammut: It is not supposed to be a super-heavy tank, but a tank buster. The whole idea of the Jagd is to be hard to use, but very rewarding.

Hope you understand why your patch is completely broken :)

Last, I wonder why you changed the voices of those units. Sniper is supposed to be Brittish, why giving him a German voice ?

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

First off the Manticore tank is not broken, it is a stealth unit and it will require you to guard when you want it to automatically attack.

2nd I did made only slightly buff to the venom, it was not a heavy powered unit.

3rd Gun turret did have a buff but to balance the game, firepower was buffed up. quite enough when upgraded to those gas ignition rounds

4th the rest.... This is a different perspective of the ECA Faction not RED ALERT CNC thats also why the Sniper and the Jagdmammut are totally different.... This is not for your dreams this is a Optimistic real world stereotype perspective that Russian tanks are crap

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MaelstromX103
MaelstromX103

I am not comparing ECA to any other C&C. In THIS mod, snipers will belong ONLY to General Charles, who is British, hence my question on why changing his nationality.

Rise of the Reds's ECA is defensive by nature, and supposed to be a bit hard to play.
And YES, Manticore being stealth is broken. It is a heavy support unit, not something you throw alone at your ennemy's face. In the intended design of the unit I mean.

"Optimistic real world stereotype perspective that Russian tanks are crap". I get the idea. But this does not go well with balance. If that rule was an absolute necessity, USA would roll over everyone without a chance of retaliation.

You do have good ideas, I like your changes on Gun turrets and to a lesser extend on Leopards (good to buff them, but you did it a bit too much IMO). But most of them are going on the opposite way of the desired ECA (defensive, and playing with long range attacks).

If you accept a suggestion, I have this:
- Revert Jagdmammut armor and crush ability
- Rise its range by ~10% (both without and with the Gas rounds)
- Make it stealth while not moving (or when not shooting, as you prefer)
- Decrease its price a bit.
With this, you keep its role intact, while buffing it a lot.
- For others, do the same, revert their raw damage, and increase range values.

I said it before, this ECA IS overpowered. It has the best offense AND the best defense in the game. Not good.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Lol True then I will make 2 versions then, on patch mod this game is Overpowered and its economy gas like crazy this was quantity over quality

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MrKindCat
MrKindCat

Im not very good in english but did you just said that russian tanks are crap?)If so which tanks are better ? german? lol syrian conflicts doesn't thinks so. Abrams mb? i bet iraq conflict laughing right now.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Really Russian tanks? ISIS only captured 1 outdated Leopard 2A4..... They take many pictures on the destroyed Leopard tank because they were making a scam..... and RUSSIAN T-14? ARMATA? NEW? OR EQUAL? its the first time Russia copied similiar designs to the west? The T-14 did not use Reactive armour for the first time..... the same to the Western tanks... So why did they just copied them right now..... and stop using the Reactive armour it's just a equal comparable tank... Because the Russian T-14 tanks copied Western design tanks.... with no Reactive armour it's probably just a simple tank.... Armour is even low

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MrKindCat
MrKindCat

i must ask did u have any military experience? were u in army? or maybe in real action? or judging by vids and articles? in my family we have an dynasty of soldiers from different spheres of military. so i actualy know about the subject. sorry for my english lack of practise lately.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

No I have a lot of friends who debate a lot of military weapons. Sometimes even standard politics like elections. Depleted Uranium isn't really hard at all it is only 16% Dense than Tungsten

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Do you know what Tungsten Carbide? Thats a common modern military knowledge

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Armalite-Wojak
Armalite-Wojak

If you really want a debate on real-life, modern armor then I'd be happy to oblige. But the problem here is that you're justifying your patch as a balancer, when in reality you're just injecting a personal bias for the sake of stronkism. Why attempt to sell it as something it isn't?

This patch is fine for those who want to play with an army that they feel matches their perception of reality, I'm not knocking that, but don't attempt to justify it as being "balanced" when each faction in the game has been specifically designed to play to certain strengths.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Thats why I asked if its overpowered or Balanced. it takes time to upload and I have a life I don't care sometimes...

Whats with your animosity? Whats the problem if the Armata is not the best tank in the world? really? It is not the best Tank

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

All Russian tanks in Iraq and Syria has been badly destroyed.... Unlike Western tanks....

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XAOC-RU-
XAOC-RU-

Sure if you compare old T-72 which used outdated shells (which was disarmed long time ago in Russia but Saddam did not do that) with modern Arbrams. Also say that T-34 is crap because Abrams will destroy it in one shot LOL. And tell me how many modern Leopards (not old crap) Turkey already lost in battles in the north Syria? And how many T-90 with syrians crews (not even russian crews) lost? I heard only one and just because silly syrian tanksmen forgot to turn on Active defence system Shtora and Arena which make all AT missles useless agaisnt them. If your friends really know anything about military they should know that any tank can be destroyed if controled by poorly trained crew.
P.S. Armata do not use Reactive Armor? LOL What about Malakhit? Or your friends think that this is science fantastic for Russians? And System of Active Defense Afganit (next gen after Shtora)? AT missles will not even able to aim this tank. Read more military info before posting ridicilous things like this :)

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Sure because they were old Leo 2A4's and the truth was ISIS was only able to capture one Leopard 2A4 and destroyed it took multiple pictures while they dismantle it piece by piece.... So they were making a propaganda Do your research as well....

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

And yea I made a mistake.... And I meant why Russians stop using reactive armour bricks and that's what I meant

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

I hope you know how to do your own research as well because it looks like you don't even understand what people are saying when they mistakenly missed a word.

Because from what I know your a guy who got banned from Rotr

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eil
eil

"this is a Optimistic real world stereotype perspective that Russian tanks are crap" = this could be a funny joke, but i remember it's bad manner to laugh over dumb person.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Rise of the reds is already Russian Bias, You keep coming here and wasting your time and get jealous of this patch. If you are smart then don't download this patch and waste your time. I already said stereotype I hope you know what that mean, because that is not an insult.

"but i remember it's bad manner to laugh over dumb person." = So who is the dumb autistic person isn't it you? Eil?.

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eil
eil

make one post is "keep coming"?! probably that's question-answer who's dumb.
can't imagine why would anyone be jealous to fact that you can read, extract BIG files and edit INIs. well maybe it's already an accomplishment for you, and you think most other players can't do same edit(or better).
p.s. "autistic person" as a try to insult says a lot about your intelligence.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

It is because you know why? Have you already read the other comments above? Your still autistic on that... Didn't I said Rise of the red is already russian bias? look you didn't get that do you? There is a lot of people like you.... Wasting your time getting ******..... Anyway I have a life, oh I guess your too ignorant to understand, read everything first before you make an assumption.... Intelligence? really aren't you already looking down first when you first got here? So don't deny it buddy, you even came back here 2 times now and see you did keep coming back? If you learn to accept it and Ignore it, then you are smart BUT NO it didn't happened. I'm not even talking about who's tank is better because that is a waste of time to get ****** at.

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X1Destroy Online
X1Destroy

Rather than Manticore, Jagdmamut should have stealth instead. That would make more senses because it's a slow an heavy tank destroyer. The thing is great for ambushing enemy tanks but.....

It always die to artillery and jets before it could kill anything, as it stand out way too much. It's too slow to run away from bombardments and its armor is no different from the Leopard.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

I did change the armour of the Jagdmammut Do you need it to be stealth are you facing russia all the time? Give it support with the flakpanzer and the wotan array the AI likes to hit them first before they bomb the Jagdmammut and the Leopard

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X1Destroy Online
X1Destroy

Russia have Goliath counter measure. It doesn't matter if you can shoot the choppers down later, they will always kill your Jagdmammuts first.

Stealth would allow it to not be spotted easily when it is idling. Once you take care of those things they can fight enemy tanks on the open.

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

So whats it gonna be lose the Manticore's stealth abilities and will need AA gun support everytime and give Jagdmammuts stealth and Remains the same armour

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theawesometrex
theawesometrex

Well this great , I personally thought that after a certain update the Jagdmammut was turned into an absolute atrocity! I know it was done in the name of "Balance" but a tank is a tank! No tank in any medium should have trouble destroying buildings! I like everything else about this mod except this, In fact I believe Rise of the Reds turns Generals into one of the best Cnc games out there!
And also let's consider the tank is pretty damn slow and more importantly very hard to maneuver, as far as I've seen this thing comes to almost a complete stop when it hast to turn, which also happens take in eternity! This makes it easy prey from aircraft to specialized infantry before it even has to face another tank, hell even other tanks would be able to obliterate it in second if this is caught by surprise, which is the only thing it's really supposed to be good at this point!

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Thanks rate this addon as well.

The Jagdmammut has become a super Heavy so that's why it needs to have some weakspots

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GJK21
GJK21

the ECA and Russia need a bit of a buffing while playing against friends we all tend to realize that whoever has a GLA on the team is a bound winner while whoever has ECA or Russia is first to go, note when Russia had the frogfoot in the air arsenal it was somewhat of a balance because 3 frogfoots were capable of wreaking havoc, meanwhile the ECA has a good defence but a single katyusha can paralyse it and you are incapable to starting a decent offence

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

GLA are all stealth too

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Guest
Guest

copy the file into the zero hour file?

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Have you downloaded the ROTR 1.86 yet? You are supposed to play as ECA only

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EngineerGKL88
EngineerGKL88

After this update, the game crashes if I put ECA as AI

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

I think that depends on the map

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

But which faction you played?

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moutsos
moutsos

Having red the above it become clear that you the Author is lucking education and manners.... and by the way his knowledge over military things is Minimal...( I am european but as far as the history of armored warfare can go, the eastern block Always had offered better in every way tanks. And this is FACT.) I know the author as ...german cant swallow it....

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Doesn't the T-14 have a small turret armour... if the T-14 is top secret why the Russian have revealed it has 900mm of armour in the hull, do your research... The T-34 wasn't the best in the war read it Chris-intel-corner.blogspot.com

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Guest
Guest

Do you make any other mods ?

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SCHWITZER1945 Author
SCHWITZER1945

Hello too late response now Since Im busy in school I can't Rise of nations Fierce war I was thinking about that

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