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Removes the NATO-esque weapons used by the Military in AO 3.1.

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Military Re-armament (for AO 3.1)
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paranoiia8
paranoiia8 - - 519 comments

"Purely for immersion purposes."

Thats why I really hate some mods and ideas regarding weapons, when people who make them have never even hold a weapon in their hands and they start making mods about damage, recoil or who use what weapon because they think its "realistic"...

Because actually lots of soldiers in all type of conflicts use different weapons than standard one that they normally assigned... When I was in military lots of higher rank friends used something different than default wz. 96 Beryl, especially in special forces. Back then I feel in love in Steyr AUG that my friend used when he was in Iraq.
Normally all you need to do is to stick to caliber that your squad use, but even that its not a problem if you are in special forces

And when we take in to the account that we talk about zone, I repeat ZONE in Stalker, where there is total chaos and no proper military regulations, you use weapon that you can...

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ragafragamagawaga
ragafragamagawaga - - 31 comments

Personally, I'd just make the NATO weapons a rarer spawn on the military, or as you said, make the higher level troops use different weaponry.

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attackzone974 Author
attackzone974 - - 344 comments

Yeah that was probably not the best word or idea for it but I think NPC looting helps with this.

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paranoiia8
paranoiia8 - - 519 comments

nah mod it self is good, but I just hate when someone call it realistic or immerse, this thing is seriously annoy me as hell, those two words...

Of course its just my opinion, so dont get careworn by it at all. One people like it other dont, so dont putt to much attention to negative reviews ;]

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davidroze565
davidroze565 - - 6 comments

'When I was in military' - sure thing buddy, where everyone picks and chooses whatever weapon they like ;)

Either you're just doing a bad job at bullshitting, what's with your Call of Duty military knowledge, or you were in some one massively unorganized force.

Stop spewing false **** like that online because some people might actually believe you.

If in fact you can prove that you were in the military I will take all of this back and laugh at the silly army you served under but until then this is nothing but ********.

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paranoiia8
paranoiia8 - - 519 comments

Actually you are bad at reading.
Where did I write that everyone in military use weapon of their choose?
I will even quote it for you so you would not need to find it:
""When I was in military lots of higher rank friends used something different than default wz. 96 Beryl, especially in special forces.""
Now move your *** to any military compound and ask members of SF if they have their own gun that they can use during service... go on, we will wait for you.

And yes, I was in military, just like 90% of people in my country that is in my age. Because back in 90' in Poland EVERYONE who was 19yo and had health category A(zdolny do czynnej służby wojskowej) had to spend 9-12months in designated post, if you liked it or not. This is so normal thing that I seriously want to laugh from people that think that being in army is something weird... this is normal thing and being mad about it is like being mad that someone was in Public pool...

And for your Information I was Mechanic in 12 Mechanical Brigade in Szczecin. And honestly for 99% of time I was fixing private cars...
So maybe I dont have experience in combat or even full proper training, but I know how military in Poland work :]

So dont be mad that someone actually did something in their lives...

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davidroze565
davidroze565 - - 6 comments

I know what I've read buddy. I too live in a country where serving under the military is mandatory, so no difference between us in that regard, so there's that. However I do serve in a combat role and an advanced one at that. IDF, 401st Brigate, Reconnaissance Company.

Special forces or not soldiers have their issued weapons and they use them. True, some use Light Machine Guns, others Submachine Guns or assault rifles but they ALL have a single weapon assigned to them according to their role in a squad and they will use JUST that weapon, which obviously cannot be one that the country's military doesn't use, there are NO personal weapons in the military, just the one you were issued. Nothing to debate here and to be honest I expected to not need to explain this to someone who served in an army even if not in a combat role.

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paranoiia8
paranoiia8 - - 519 comments

Who the hell said that its "personal" weapon? I said that some soldiers use different weapon that standard one that normally is assigned to him.

As I said for example my friend instead of standard Polish 96 Beryl he had Steyr AUG(older one not A3), Even damn Military Gendarmerie could use other pistols than standard WIST-94.

Beside that read my first post, we talk here about scenario where military is in zone, there is no proper administration, no proper chain of command.

Now go talk with anyone who fight in civil war or even ww2, because those scenarios are best to describe what im talking about: "You fight with what you got"
There is no point of dragging that crap over and over. I know what I know and I dont give a flying sheep if you like it or not.

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davidroze565
davidroze565 - - 6 comments

'Who the hell said' anything about the Gendarmerie, entirely different business that. The AUG is a weapon known to be used by Polish GROM so you made yourself look real ******* stupid for not mentioning that in the first place, making it seem like if someone is in the special forces he can use weapons not in use by his military. Even saw a Navy SEAL use a Russian AK-74M? Or the other way around, an Alpha Group Spetsnaz using an M16A4? Stop being so ******* cryptic, you keep complaining about not mentioning things but you never mention something against it so it makes people think that it's what you mean.

As for the Civil war... WW2? You do know that STALKER takes place in modern times, right? Where the Ukrainian military has access to the world outside of the zone? Get regularly supplied with weapons and ammunition and even ******* close air support? There is absolutely no reason for them to be using NATO made weapons, simple as that.

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paranoiia8
paranoiia8 - - 519 comments

Eh its look like you are just moron... no point of keeping that conversation, because you have problem even with getting sentences properly or reading full comment not just part of it.

Because why I would need to mention that some members of GROM used that specific gun?
I said in the first comment that special forces used different gun than default used by military.
All around the world members of different SpecialForces use their preferred gun, I know even few guys in US army that use AK-12 and its look that only you are ******* mental about it.

And did you even read why I mentioned Civil War? its not about times where that war is, but idea OF USING WEAPON THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE, in this type of conflict no one give a **** about some mental moron that cry that every soldier need to use only one type of weapon issued during training.
YOU USE WHAT YOU HAVE.

And seriously you mentioned air support in Stalker? xD holly **** what next? you will demand precise air bombing, tanks and proper chain of supply deep in the zone? xD xD xD

Dude, get a ******* life, stop wasting our time with your lack of intelligence and proper reasoning.
Because for past few comments all you actually did is point out exactly what I was referring in the first comment... and nothing more...

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davidroze565
davidroze565 - - 6 comments

>US Army
>AK-12

Yup, done talking to ya. Have a nice day buddy, I'm praying the doctors will be able to heal your retardation seizures.

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Risefal
Risefal - - 352 comments

I like your idea "you use weapon that you can" which is more realistic than removing alot of weapons that they probably would use because they lost their original/found a better one etc.

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Favkis_Nexerade
Favkis_Nexerade - - 85 comments

I'm not a shooter by any means, however I know some "special forces" guys that has some MP5s, M4s and such stuff is their arsenal. Oh yeah, they are russian.

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zorgl
zorgl - - 246 comments

Do u really think they would go in the Zone with MP5 and M4 when they can use AS VAL and AK74M ? They are militaries living in barracks supplied with 5.45x39 and 9x39, why should they used NATO weapons ?

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wet_vasily
wet_vasily - - 64 comments

Good mod blin !

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LostToTheZone
LostToTheZone - - 112 comments

You should have changed the armament of the whole faction instead of just replacing NATO weapons. Talking about "realistic", why do these Spetsnazs still use old AKs instead of AN-94 or no high ranking military troops ever use Groza at all? That calls for re-armamant. I'm expecting a better version of this addon from you.

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attackzone974 Author
attackzone974 - - 344 comments

Talking about 'realistic' I don't think the Ukraine military use the AN-94 or the Groza, but I do get what you are saying as for special forces operators it seems right that they would use more higher tier weapons.

Anyway, I forgot to mention that some of the NATO weapons were replaced with the weapons as mentioned above so they should be more common, as well as the VAL and Vintorez.

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Stolos
Stolos - - 75 comments

It's very likely that given the whole alternate reality thing, that more such weapons would flow into Ukraine. Not saying they'd be in the quantity we see them, but the situation itself naturally causes weapons to gravitate there.

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vorador1980
vorador1980 - - 180 comments

Very good idea, Sir. In the former Soviet Union countries isn`t so easy to obtain Nato armament, even more so in the restricted area, surrounded from the army. Lore friendly, if I may say so. And point toward the realism too, for Ukraine isn`t a member of Nato yet.
Any chance of a similar change for OWR? I can`t use AO3 with CoC 1.5. Just curious.

Sincerely yours
V.

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attackzone974 Author
attackzone974 - - 344 comments

I'm glad you enjoyed the mod. The goal was to kinda be realistic and at the same time be faithful to the lore equipment. For OWR, I currently don't have any plans as I have never used it before.

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n0rie9a
n0rie9a - - 115 comments

nice job .always thought that nato weaponry had no place in the stalker series (except for the trs 301) since this IS the zone and everything should be abandoned/decaying/lost/forgotten etc. so why would anyone bring weapons from thousands of miles away?hell, even vanilla SoC nato weapons annoyed me.
never been a fan of nato weapons,but since stalker came out half the reason for playing is to play with all sorts of warsaw pact weapons (c'mon who would prefer an M4 or M16 over an Ak74M or AEK971?)

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vorador1980
vorador1980 - - 180 comments

Thank you, Sir, the pleasure is mine. You`ve achieved your goal admirably.

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