Infernal Brutal Doom v1.17 addon

I can't use brutal doom v19 then?

You can use this with Brutal Doom v19 as long as the files are in the correct load order. Make sure that the "brutal19.pk3" file is loaded first, then the "InfernalDoom.pk7" file is loaded second. Having the files loaded in the wrong order will give you an error when trying to play.

For example, in my zdoom ini file, my [Global.Autoload] section looks like this:
Path=F:\Doom wads\Gameplay Wads\Brutal Doom\brutal19.pk3
Path=F:\Doom wads\Gameplay Wads\Infernal Doom\InfernalDoom.pk7
Path=F:\Doom wads\HUDs\Statusbar Reloaded\sbar_reloaded.pk7
Path=F:\Doom wads\Gameplay Wads\Brutal Doom\DoomMetalVol4.wad

I've only played a few minutes, but it seems to work fine with brutal doom v19. The only bug I've noticed so far is that there is a problem with the Assault Rifle's zoom function; when I tried to zoom the weapon would constantly stutter, going in an out of zoom. I haven't played with all the weapons so there may be other problems...this addon was built with brutal doom v17 in mind.

To answer Raptomex's question, Infernal Brutal Doom doesn't seem to work with Zandronum. I've tried placing all the files in the Skins folder but it just gives me an error when trying to play. Infernal Brutal Doom works fine with GZDoom, though.

After playing for about an hour, I noticed a few more bugs when playing this with Brutal Doom v19:

- I've already mentioned the Assault Rifle zoom stutter.
- The melee attacks are from a previous version. Both the fists and feet attack seem to be from Brutal Doom v17, meaning you can't really do combos and advanced fist/feet attacks anymore.
- The Chainsaw seems like it doesn't inflict any damage. When you use it, you'll get a ton of blood splatter like always, but it doesn't do any damage. Enemies will continue to attack you while you chainsaw them...I chainsawed an imp for around 5 seconds once while it just clawed me to death.
- After I died and tried to reload, I got the following error message: "Expected a name but got something else". I remember getting something like this a long time ago when trying to run conflicting Brutal Doom wads, so I think this loading error is a direct result of trying to use the wrong version of Brutal Doom

So while you can use this with Brutal Doom v19, it definitely isn't optimized for it! Several things either won't work correctly or at all, and you may not be able to load a game once you die or quit.

The Infernal Brutal Doom addon does add enough awesome for me to try it with a downgraded Brutal Doom, though! Random things will happen like finding ancient artifacts (don't know what they do yet) and having random Marine Troopers teleporting in to help you. And I love it when the announcer says "Brutality!" in that Mortal Kombat-like voice whenever you perform a cruelty bonus. Also, the alt fire for the Plasma Rifle - a zoom that turns it into a Rail Gun - should be the official alt fire for Brutal Doom's Plasma Rifle!

I highly recommend checking this out, but maybe you should use the Brutal Doom v17 that comes with it instead of v19. Hopefully this gets updated soon to use the features of v19 correctly.

After reading the ZDoom forum thread about this mod, it seems like the "Expected a name but got something else" loading error happens anytime you pick up a backpack and try to load your game. I tried using Brutal Doom v17 with Infernal Brutal Doom, picked up a backpack, quick saved, and then quick loaded...and I got the error message. Looks like the error isn't due to Brutal Doom v19, but it's a problem of the addon itself. One piece of good news, however, is that as soon as I started using Brutal Doom v17, all the other bugs I mentioned in my last post disappeared. Sucks that a bunch of cool features added to BD after v17 aren't present, though.

So, yeah...this addon is cool but definitely needs to be updated. The last time the mod maker Zaero did anything to this was back in April, so while I hope it gets updated, I think he may have moved on.

Nope, I didn't. Life just took the best of me, it's mostly work all over again. I was planning to release the new version as soon as BDv19 is released, now it is, so with the bug list you've posted and some spare time I should finally be able to do it. But first I want to try v19 without Infernal to see what new stuff to add and what obsolete stuff to remove.

Good to know this is going to get updated soon! Like I said in an earlier post, this addon is pretty sweet and adds enough cool things that I definitely want to play it without the bugs and the loading crashes.

Hey Zaero, thanks for this great add-on!

I'll just add a few more bugs to what SwiftyMagee listed:

- The Unmaker primary fire kills zombies and imps by forcing a stealth kill on each one, meaning you'll be stuck in the stealthkill animation until every last one is dead at your feet.

- The SSG secondary fire is back to skipping the reload animation after every second shot, and now behaves like an automatic shotty.

- The chainsaw DOES inflict damage, but ONLY if you move it around in a slashing motion. Is this a feature?

- Not a bug, but is it possible that you include the minigun and rocketlauncher sprites from the v19 test releases. Is it also possible to bring back the grey nazis from earlier brutal doom releases as an option? I don't know why SMk.IV returned to the old blue SS sprites, but the difficulty in the secret levels went down by quite a bit.

I personally like Zandronum over GZDoom; it's much easier to play custom wads and multiplayer. I wouldn't switch completely over to GZDoom, but it is the only way I know to play this addon.

I've never tried playing multiplayer with GZDoom, but checking networking options over at the ZDoom wiki (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Multiplayer), it seems like you have to set up multiplayer through command lines. You can find those here: Zdoom.org

It seems a lot easier to use Zandronum for multiplayer. I know from experience getting into a server is as easy as launching Doomseeker (comes with Zandronum) and clicking on a server. If you do want to try to play online with GZDoom, I've heard that the launcher ZDL is easy to use and works well. You can find info and a download link about that here: Zdoom.org

Currently no Zandronum support is planned, since I don't use the port. Also please keep in mind, that it's designed for SP only. MP may work but no-guarantee.

Can anybody help me??? please?

Help you with what?

My other comment was deleted. Okay, i have no idea how to use the add-ons for Brutal doom. i have been playing the mod for some time and i would finally use the add-ons.

If you're using Zandronum instead of GZDoom, there should be a folder called "skins" in the Zandronum folder (if there isn't, just create a folder and name it "skins"). Drop all the files you want to use in the "skins" folder, and Zandronum should do all the work for you!

Infernal Brutal Doom doesn't work in Zandronum, though, so either follow TheUnbeholden's steps to get it to work in GZDoom, or you can modify the zdoom ini like I did in my first post. Go to the [Global.Autoload] section in the ini file and type out the path of the files you want to use, remembering that load order is important. I prefer this method as you don't have to drag and drop files everytime you want to play a modified instance of Doom.

You can also add command lines on the Target line of your gzdoom.exe. You can find the command lines you need to use on the ZDoom wiki. This is an alright method as well, though it seems easier to just type out the path of your wads in the zdoom.ini than to remember what command line to use for what type of file.

He's basically uploading anything brutal doom related for the convenience of the people who only check here for addons.

Unless Quaker540 does some updates to this, I think this mod is dead. The mod maker, Zaero, said he was going to do some updates to this last year but that never happened. Case of real life, I guess. I'd love to be proven wrong, as this was a pretty cool addon.

I'd suggest to just move on to another addon, as I've done. Pa1nki113r's compilation or Quaker's sub-mod are great alternatives to Infernal Brutal Doom, and they are actively being worked on, which is always a plus!

Ah that's a shame. Thanks for the reply. I'll check out those other sub-mods you mentioned. Cheers!