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Centers the iron-sights, holo-sights, and 3D scopes in Arsenal Overhaul 3. Also sets zoom scaling to usable degree. Also improves handling, corrects rate of fire and ballistics. It's a bit nuts.
UPDATE v0.9.1 - BALLISTICS, RATE OF FIRE
A few fixes. Removed the bolt and the binoculars from the addon, as there are other addons that modify those. Knife fov fix, kindasortanotreallyfix for the RG6 grenade launcher, a few slight changes to hud positions, nerfed the shotguns, all that is not very exciting.
The exciting bit is that I merged the AO3 Ballistics addon from CoC by zyzzzyzzlgd47 with this. What that essentially means is that the weapons and ammo behave more realistically. AKs have higher rates of fire, sniper rifles have more range, recoil on small caliber weapons has been reduced and has been increased for high caliber weapons, the list goes on. Check the original addon's description for details. It's pretty damn good.
Merged for both zoomed and non-zoomed ironsights.
I made a few edits to the original, mainly in the hit probability for lower difficulties, to keep things accessible for non-FPS gods. On Master (or GOTTA RELOAD if you play my pack) every weapon has 100 hit probability. On the lower difficulties only bolt-action rifles have 100 hit probability to make up for their low rate of fire. When you perform your jumping 360 noscope headshots you don't want to miss one due to a dice roll and end your streak.
Hit probability per difficulty:
- Novice: 70
- Stalker: 80
- Veteran: 90
- Master: 100
Do let me know if anything feels wonky or off. I haven't tested every single weapon, just most of them. One thing I have noticed is that some weapons have hardly any recoil at all. I'll have to review every weapon at some point, but for now this is a good start.
Brief demo video because I got rudely interrupted. The weapon sounds are from the Modern Warfare sounds addon. Go get that.
This may not require a new game. Mileage varies. Enjoy.
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!! IMPORTANT NOTICE !!
Does NOT require a new game. You may however have to remove and replace sights on rifles to have the new values stick on existing saved games. Just noticed this myself.
!! END OF NOTICE !!
Slight UPDATE:
- reverted pistols back to their facesmacking selves. The revolver sprint just looks too awkward without correcting the weapon positions.
- make sure to reinstall the Enhanced Vision Tweaks binoculars after you update this; this addon only has the default AO3 binoculars.
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So yeah, I said I was gonna do that thing I was gonna do and I done it.
Requirements:
that's it really. Make sure you get that, though. It's important! And don't use the 2D scopes patch!
Suggestion:
- Do use the No Sway patch in the AO3 optionals. That shit's obnoxious, especially in combination with Wepl's hit effects.
Manual installation instructions:
- Extract archive into new folder
- Choose between ironsights zoom or not
- Move the gamedata folder inside your chosen version into your CotZ folder, overwrite when prompted
- Immediately notice the difference
You can freely swap between zoomed and unzoomed ironsights files but may have to replace sights on rifles after swapping to get the new values.
Optionals include my testing reticles and loadout file. The reticles work really well with my The Professional crosshair preset. Play ironman runs with the loadout file and remove the weapon you had from the list after you die. That way you always spawn with something new. The list has been semi-sanitized for easy reading; have a look.
Quirks:
This is made for 70 FOV. If you play at 67 FOV, using the zoomed ironsights version may look fine. If you play at 75 or up, consider the unzoomed version your zoomed version. Compromises will have to be made.
Vanilla-weapons can accept both vanilla scopes and AO3 scopes. At the same time. It's kinky as all hell but not very useful; you get a sexy mashed icon, the AO3 model, but the vanilla sights when you zoom in.
Compatibility:
Not compatible with other weapon packs. Other than that, it should be compatible with anything and everything that doesn't change the actual weapon files.
Issues / limitations (just a reminder for AO3):
The pistols have not all been realigned yet.
Don't put machine pistols in the knife slot. You will have a bad time. (Crashes the game.)
The multitool does not work on pistols in the knife slot. Move it to another slot and then use the multitool to remove holo-sights.
I may have broken the RG-6 grenade launcher but I'm not sure which one the vanilla one or AO3's and I'm so tired and nobody uses the damn thing anyway maybe I'll get it in a next version GO USE ANOTHER GUN
Please report any other bugs or whatever you find in the comments, or preferably in the thread on the forum. Questions and feedback are welcome, too.
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Just some quick notes.
I buffed the knife fairly significantly. Boxes die in one right-click, as does most anything less tough than a box. For your info, boars are about as strong as boxes! In the early game, you may think the knife is very over-powered. Hold that thought. We'll have a good chuckle about it together when you're in the late game.
The handling improvement only means that it's easier to swing your gun around. I removed the initial penalty, so to speak. Guns still get penalties for weight and their handling stat, and you will feel subtle differences as you play around with that reducing weight and adding upgrades, but the differences between different kinds of receivers is minimized, if that makes sense. Honestly, it's something you have to play with to understand. I think it's a massive improvement.
I have also slightly reduced the time to zoom in. Just to make things feel smoother.
TIP: put the AO3 multitool on your F4 quick-slot. Yank that scope off at a moment's notice when you have to. It's convenient.
Hi I keep crashing when I install this mod.
FATAL ERROR
[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CInifile::r_section
[error]File : Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 523
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Can't open section 'wpn_vz65_5'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report
stack trace:
0023:00BD483C xrCore.dll, xrDebug::fatal()
0023:0A3FC452 xrGame.dll, CDialogHolder::operator=()
0023:0A412AB4 xrGame.dll, CDialogHolder::operator=()
Here's the relevant part of the log.
Hey, thanks for the report. I assume the error comes up when you start a new game? I've tried to reproduce this error, but have been unsuccessful. It's the developer's curse: if I install CotZ 1.2, AO3 0.7 on top of that and my addon on top of that, it just works.
I can tell you that there is no wpn_vz65_5, so the error makes sense. I have no idea where it's getting that _5 from.
So, quiz time!
- Are you installing on top of CotZ 1.2 with AO3?
- What other addons do you have installed?
- Which version of my addon are you trying to install, zoomed or non-zoomed? (it shouldn't matter, but maybe it narrows down the issue)
EDIT:
I am a creepy stalker type dude and glanced at your profile. I noticed you like Project Brutality. Why don't we just skip the foreplay and go straight to Mahzra's Package? ;)
EDIT2: Have you installed any of the AO3 optionals, and if so, which ones? My addon is made for just base AO3, the only optional I tested is the excellent No Sway patch.
I have nimble's legendary arsenal installed.
No other addons and the zoomed version.
It actually crashes when I try to load my game in progress and works fine with a new game?
Install this on top. I patched the affected weapons so you should be able to load your game and have those weapons back all improved and stuff.
Mediafire.com
Works perfectly, thank you.
Great mod, man.
Is RG-6 still broken, though? :D
I replaced it with a 5.56 Sako TRG in my own game and can't be arsed to fix the grenade launcher. :D
When I do another pass of sight corrections I'll just put my custom Sako in as sort of an easter egg.
Hey mahzra,i dont know if you still visit this page or not,but can you make another optional reticle for ekp & kobra with the triple stripes thing instead of dots??thanks man
After installing this addon, delete wpn_addon_reticle_kobra.dds and wpn_addon_reticle_ekp.dds in gamedata\textures\wpn, and the vintorez versions as well if you have those. That should give you back your three lines sights.
I've noticed that AK ironsights are only aligned on HUD FOV 0.30 (general FOV at suggested 70), but I have to play on 0.40 to see my detector while holding a pistol, though then detector with knife combo is stretched too far away, but it didn't bother me since I'm not using it. Is this like that only for me maybe because of a small 1366x768 display? And why is there such a difference between knife and pistol fov? (and a small suggestion to merge it with this Moddb.com which I've done for myself, though I'm not sure if correctly and it lacks some weapons; and ofc I've experimented with fov on your default files, not my merged ones, just to be clear)
Catching up on processing feedback on my addons and stuff and I gotta say it sucks you moved on to Anomaly :D You give some quality feedback, my friend. It's appreciated.
EDIT: "You have already issued positive karma." I know, ModDB. I just wanted to give more. I have so much positive karma to give. I've got heaps of the stuff.
Thanks for the modification! I have some questions: 1) What changes did you make to the original ballistics mod and in this case can your mod be considered a full-fledged transfer of the original ballistics mod to cotz (such as zyzzzyzzlgd47 would have done)? 2) How are you going to edit those weapons that are present in cotz arsenal overhaul but not present in coc arsenal overhaul (such as scar-l 5.56, groza tactical, etc)?
Ooh, excellent questions.
1) I merged his changes regarding cam displacement (effectively recoil as the player experiences it) and bullet velocity, armor piercing and impact into my original modification, which changed crosshair inertion, movement inertion, and scope-in times (making guns feel lighter and more mobile) as well as a lot of hud position changes to improve accuracy with attachment scopes. I also reduced damage on buckshot ammo and reduced the hit probability for all weapons except bolt-actions for difficulties below Master as well as provided both zoomed and non-zoomed iron-sights and holo scopes.
So the end result, the merged modifications, cannot be considered a full-fledged mod to cotz as zyzzzyzzlgd47 would have done; it is my take on it, basically. He would have more closely followed reality.
2) Thanks for reminding me about these, I almost forgot. I'm copying their behavior from existing weapons, so these would not be accurate to the other weapons. Another thing a true port would address.
This is also why I didn't just merge the ballistics mod into CoTZ AO3 and uploaded that as vanilla, because it's not my place to do that. CoTZ uses different damage calculations and that should be addressed if and when the mod is properly ported. My merge is my merge and if zyzzzyzzlgd47 wants to provide an "official" port for CoTZ, there is room and demand to do so. I for one would love him to.
Thanks for the detailed answer! I'm just wondering if zyzzzyzzlgd47 would give up on the idea of adapting his mod to cotz, believing you've already done it for him)
Hope not, his is the real deal. The changes I made to the handling make gunplay feel very different from vanilla, so there would still be demand for his original. I'm sure there are plenty of players who do not like the feel of my weapons.
Edit:
Hah, M79 is a grenade launcher, don't have to do that one. :D
... it's the little victories, shallow as they may be.
I tried using the new version with my save game and it's causing it to crash... I looked into it a little and found some missing sections that "might" be the issue, I'm not sure... here is an example picture of one of the weapons with missing sections (Glock)
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Oh **** thanks, I'll fix those right away. WinMerge does a dumb thing when you merge something that has an empty line at the end of it. Facepalmingly good stuff.
No problem, not sure how you go about editing things but if you need me to upload my files to compare or something just let me know.
Yeah, that would help actually. In your screenshot, my file is on the left? What's the file on the right, the original ballistics mod?
The missing sections shouldn't cause a crash, because they're just skins really.
What could cause a crash is if you had Nimble's Legendary arsenal or another optional addon for AO3 installed. I'd have to merge those in separately. I never bothered to, because those guns are fugly. Pardon my french.
It was just the previous version of this mod... Here is a link to the files so you can reference them. In the screenshot the left side had my original file, and the right side had your new updated file with the missing entries. The highlights point out the differences between the two files.
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I'm currently unbeing an idiot and will get back to you shortly.
No problem, take your time... I only uploaded the files I'm currently using (no ironsights zoom), if you would also like the optional files (ironsights zoom) just let me know.
Nah, I have to verify them all now anyway. What happened is that I in at least ONE case merged the wrong way. If I did it once ... argh. Halfway through, that's still the only one. :D
Fixed! There were two others I messed up. Thanks for letting me know!
Happy to help, when the new version is released I will let you know if my save game works or not.
Just updated it, I am waiting in anticipation. Not changing the version number for just two pistols.
Quick question, is there suppose to be both "w_rg6.ltx" & "w_rg6 - corrected.ltx"? The previous version only had one file so just wanted to make sure...
Edit: Hummm just tested the new version and when trying to load my save it still crashes... :(
That is a good point, the RG6 is one thing I did change. You could try throwing the old one back in.
Anything helpful in the crash log?
If all fails, you could put the new files in one by one ... :D
I uploaded my crash log, at the end it shows some errors with wpn stuff.
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Doesn't look like it's crashing on a weapon file, weird. At least the weapon files should be okay now, so if it's any consolation it works for others.
Could you try to reload that save with the old weapon files, just to make sure that works, and could you try starting a new game with the new files?
If loading with the old files does work and a new game with the new files does work, I'm going to need the old files from your installation. Like, the whole weapons folder in gamedata\config.
There has to be something there I'm overlooking. Something must have changed.
Sorry for the hassle, Wolfy.
If I load the save file with the old weapon files it works every time, only when I install the new version of the mod it crashes. It might be more of a headache than it's worth, because I referenced a few of the fixed files with ExamDiff and it looked good to me.
Whelp, you have something to look forward to for when you start a new game then.
Dammit I can't let it go. Could you try installing the new files excluding the rg6? :D That's got to be it! It's the only thing left that I would understand causing this!
I removed both "w_rg6.ltx" & "w_rg6 - corrected.ltx" from the mod and used my original "w_rg6.ltx" from the previous version of the mod which is what I had when I made my save games. It still crashes on load. I replaced back all my original files (previous version of the mod) and my save game works fine. I did a new game test using the new files without the updated rg6 files like I mentioned above... and it works. So, something with the updated files isn't compatible with my save game.
What's interesting is I have a little personal mini mod I made for myself that edits the exact same files. It tries to correct some of the weights, and changes the box size so I can transfer a specific amount of ammo at a time. So I have modified these files myself and I know changing values will work with my save game.
A new game for me isn't likely as I have a long running save in this game and probably won't finish it before S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Releases... I will probably still play it after for the classic experience hehe. I'm going to test one more idea I have and I will get back to you...
Alright I did some testing....
Edit: 01-10 Weapon Files - "w_9a91"-"w_ak74u" = Save Game Works
Edit: 11-25 Weapon Files - "w_ak101"-"w_beretta" = Game Crash
Weapon Files 26-51 - "w_bizon"-"w_knife" = Save Game Works
Weapon Files 26-76 - "w_bizon"-"w_remington870" = Save Game Works
Weapon Files 26-END "w_bizon"-"w_wincheaster1300" = Save Game Works
So I have confirmed there is a problem within the 15 mentioned weapon files. My game takes a while to load so I can't do every one individually... but that gives you a good starting point.
Those 15 are like the most boring weapons ever, too. Nothing special about them.
You are so close now! Divide into three batches of 5, hopefully leave just 5 to investigate, don't do it today, do it whenever BUT I MUST KNOW!
I'll make a unique weapon for you out of the one that was causing this problem :D Wouldn't you like an Aug that was named "WolfyBrandon's Headache"? Of course you would!
Just tested and it works with all but 2 files, used ExamDiff to take a look, I found this...
w_aps
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w_beretta
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It was the only thing that caught my eye and looked different compared to the other files from that batch of 15...
So you changed those lines back aaaaaand ... ??? :D Or will you just leave those two at v0.9 values? That's probably what I would do.
Strange that it causes your game to crash but not others. Do you have them equipped or something?
Changed those two lines, and my save game works with all files (Minus the extra RG6 (haven't tested yet)).
I do not have either weapon equipped, however I am at 100 Rads Bar with 30+ NPC's around who might have one...
Curious, did you change the class for those weapons and does it need to be changed to the new values?
No, those class changes came from the ballistics mod. There are a ton of those in these files, so why it's only these two that cause issues I really have no idea. Stalker at its finest.
I'm very glad you got your save game working with the new files though. Hope you enjoy them and that it was worth the effort getting there.
The RG6 (copy) is a RG6. The default is something else. Something you have earned. I think Owl still sells it. There's also one in Limansk in the first building on your right if you enter from Dead City, but I assume you got that one ages ago.
Hah, if you put that one in storage, go have a look at it :D
Humm, I found the RG6 you mentioned at Limansk...
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When I picked it up it looks like a sniper rifle...
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BTW: I did install both your RG6 files, save game still works.
Yup that's the one. If you rename the RG6 corrected or whatever I called it to rg6.ltx, it'll be a grenade launcher. See, doing that was fine. But call a pistol a LR-300, noooooo can't have that. Stalker is weird.
That rifle is special by the way. Not in an overpowered kind of sense or value or anything, there's just not many like it.
Well I did another test saving my game in Truck Cemetery where there is low NPC population, I changed the files to the updated one and was able to load my save and it worked, however going back to Rostok the game crashed. So yeah the info for an NPC or something must be stored in my save game and it won't let me have the updated class. I will have to play for a while visiting other levels to make sure everything else is working fine.
Is it possible to get both RG6's Sniper & Grenade Launcher?
Hope it works out, fingers crossed. Hope those NPCs get respawned soon.
You can not get both, no. Not yet, anyway.
What weight and ammo box size changes did you make? Could you share those files? I'm always curious about other players' adjustments.
I changed the ammo box size because of the way ammo amounts are transferred in-game. I'm very specific on how much ammo I take with me in my loadouts due to the weight, for example I made rifle ammo box size 30, so I can transfer 30 rounds at a time. That way I can calculate how many magazines worth of ammo I have on me at one time. As far as weight, I did a little research and made some minor corrections to ammo and weapon weights (it's very limited, I only modified what I'm currently using in my loadouts). As far as ammo I noticed in the AO mod 9mm weighed more than 45 ACP when 45 ACP is a larger round. So I tried to look up weights and sizes of all calibers and make similar corrections. It's complicated and I doubt I have the exact correct weights for everything, but came up with something I'm happy with over the original settings.
I totally get you, I try to take even magazines with me as well. I'll do that weight research as well, that's a good idea, thanks. I figured the AO3 guys would've taken care of that somewhere before the third release.
So, how much does it frustrate you that the game seems to prioritize even amounts of ammo in your storage over even amounts of ammo in your backpack?
It frustrates me a LOT.
Same, even with the Ammo Box Size change, sometimes it likes to transfer over a few extra ammo, so if I want like 90 rounds (3 Mags), it might transfer over like 92, or 96 or something... but if I click a bunch of times and transfer like 348 rounds, then transfer back to storage it seems to even out to multiples of 30, so eventually I can get there but it takes some work. Having the box size change helps a lot and does minimize the problem quite a bit. The weight research was a headache, because some sources don't list if the weight is just the bullet itself, the casing, or the whole cartridge. Then you have different types, how much powder for that specific load. I found the best way was to just balance it around actual physical size, shotgun shells being the exception as they are a bit different.
Ah, I had a different approach in mind to get at weights for ammo. Check the weight of a box on some US gun store website and divide that weight by the amount of bullets in it. It'll always be guesstimation anyway.
(they're not real, Wolfy. it's just a game. sometimes I worry)
EDIT:
Let's go get flagged on all the watch lists!