Post news Report content RSS feed VOTE: elven-dwarven wars

Some people complained me about that little element put into game by me: The elves fight the dwarves in the north. That's because if they would only concentrate on the evil guys, Isengard and Mordor would be crushed in a weeks time. Read below!!!

Posted by on

The elves fight the dwarves in the north.That's because if they would only concentrate on the evil guys, Isengard and Mordor would be crushed in a weeks time. I know actually it never happened, but with this, the battles of Middle Earth are more complicated. If the elves and dwarves are in peace, that means there is actually no bigger battles in the north, only some goblin-raids broken in 2 minutes by allied elven-dwarven forces. In Eriador it would be OK, but in Mirkwood and in the Vale of Anduin? There have to be some fighting!
So the community should decide: shall this war continue (=Yes) or I shall finish it (=No)
Until 21st of March, there is a vote:
- only clear YES/ NO answers are accepted.
- please vote only once (the "vote" is a simple, short comment)
- all the "you should concetrate on the Lotr scenes, not this, but then I vote No/Yes" - tipical comments will be ignored!
- please don't comment about game crashes, problems etc here. thanks

my vote: Yes, I want action (Tonight :D )

Post comment Comments  (0 - 50 of 57)
Pep4si
Pep4si

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Yldrania
Yldrania

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
thegifer
thegifer

NO

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
ubcsboss
ubcsboss

yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Mizore_Shirayuki
Mizore_Shirayuki

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+3 votes
deathbirdw
deathbirdw

no

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
ngeaaa
ngeaaa

Yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
DEATH_TROOPER
DEATH_TROOPER

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
leonardomf
leonardomf

NO

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
crazykidsbite
crazykidsbite

yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
YittyYak
YittyYak

Yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Huron_Blackheart
Huron_Blackheart

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Naroko
Naroko

Yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Saethwr
Saethwr

No

Reply Good karma Bad karma0 votes
suerteto
suerteto

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Sooner535
Sooner535

Yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
CrimsonBloodGaming
CrimsonBloodGaming

Yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Cataphrakt
Cataphrakt

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
MountAndBladeWarband
MountAndBladeWarband

NO make new evil factions like orcs of gundabad or misty mountains to fix this problem

Reply Good karma Bad karma+7 votes
deathteam15
deathteam15

No

Reply Good karma Bad karma0 votes
TheSilverEagle
TheSilverEagle

No.

Reply Good karma Bad karma0 votes
zackgreco
zackgreco

NO

Reply Good karma Bad karma0 votes
rocky1987
rocky1987

NO

Reply Good karma Bad karma0 votes
moshedz
moshedz

YES-Make Elves and Dwarves kill each-other.

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
HounderKnight
HounderKnight

No - make more/ stronger Evil factions.

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
TheDanielmetal
TheDanielmetal

YES!

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Patchy_the_Pirate
Patchy_the_Pirate

No just make more factions in general like Rhun, Harad, Dunlending, Orcs of the Misty Mountains, Orcs of Gundabad, Mirkwood Elves, Gladrahim Elves, High Elves, Eriaodr, Dale, Erebor and Iron Hill Dwarves, and Dwarves of the Blue Mountains.

Reply Good karma Bad karma+6 votes
xxHkRxx
xxHkRxx

No

Reply Good karma Bad karma0 votes
Laski_Tarl
Laski_Tarl

Yes
-Laski

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
nimrod595
nimrod595

yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Oromis
Oromis

No
Just make the evil factions stronger and until they are strong enough, I'm okay with the war. But do not let this war be the final Version, just too get more fun right now and later on, make peace between them and therefore new stronger evil factions

Reply Good karma Bad karma+2 votes
Gylfe
Gylfe

Yes if you keep the factions as is.

No if you add more factions to Mordor and Isengard to balance it out.

Personally I never minded this, I figured it was just the mechanics of the engine that all factions may declare war on each other. Even though it didn't happen in the lore, it still could. They are different nations, which would have border disputes and other issues to go to war over. To me it's fine and adds a bit of realism to the world, even though it's not 100% scripture.

Reply Good karma Bad karma+3 votes
Karchedon
Karchedon

NO

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Xiac
Xiac

yes

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Guest
Guest

This comment is currently awaiting admin approval, join now to view.

Paladyn183
Paladyn183

No

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
smartsapper12
smartsapper12

No

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
teutonic77
teutonic77

NO

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
andrelm
andrelm

Honestly as a huge fan of LOTR & Middle-earth in general, and a hardcore dwarf fan, the Dwarves barely contributed to the War of the Ring (Dwalin didn't move a muscle as regent in the Blue Mountains and Dáin only kept the Iron Hills & Erebor safe for those are the only dwarven kingdoms that still live) however, if you want to intense actions in the north you could always add Gundabad Orcs, Misty Mountain Goblins and add activity to Moria, seeing as there were dozens of expeditions to reclaim it ever since Erebor was rebuilt. All elves fought against Orcs from the West to the very borders of Rhovanion, and their last beef with dwarves was over an age ago. IMO, add more Orc & Goblin factions.

TL;DR No, add more dark forces.

Reply Good karma Bad karma+3 votes
Scutatus
Scutatus

As a "huge fan of LOTR" I think you forget that the dwarves were no longer a great power in Middle-earth. Just a hundred years before they had lost "half their number" fighting the war of dwarves and orcs - and that came after a thousand years of defeat, decline and calamity (THREE strongholds overrun, by balrog, dragons and then a dragon again - with great loss each time). By the time the War of the Ring came along, there really could not have been much left in the way of dwarven strength.

The dwarves - and the men of Dale - had their backs against the wall during the War of the Ring. They fought the Battle of Dale against the Easterlings, and then, defeated, were forced to take refuge in Erebor, where they were besieged. They never really go the chance to "contribute" in an offensive way. That said, if you don't count tying up the Easterlings in the east and preventing them from rampaging westward at will a "contribution" then I don't know what is! If the dwarves had not made their stand it would have been down to the elves to stop them - and they were already in similar dire straights themselves holding off the Mirkwood and Misty Mountain orcs! So in short, the eastern forces of darkness would have rolled over the elven woodland realms and then hit Gondor from the north - and that would have been that. The dwarves prevented that. Not bad for a people who "did not contribute".

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
andrelm
andrelm

You're right! I had completely forgotten about the Easterling threat, however, it is known that the dwarves did not send forces to battle in the South, or to any other major decisive battles whilst in the War of the Ring, like Belegost and Nogrod did against Morgoth, plus this mod is mainly based on the raging of the WOTR - and their absence in the major battles was completely justified, for the race of Dwarves were soon meeting their inevitable end not too shortly after the dawning of 4th age.

I think, however, that adding more forces to battle dwarves instead of re-igniting a war that has ended over two ages ago. I pray for Gundabad Orcs, and Misty Mountain trappers to be added.

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Scutatus
Scutatus

You are correct, the dwarves did not send forces to the south to help Gondor - but I have already reminded you why. The Dwarven forces of Belegost and Nogrod did indeed fight Morgoth himself, as you yourself say.And so mighty were they back then that they were the only ones who could stand against the host of dragons, when no one else, not even the elves, were able to (due largely to their all encompassing armour and masked helms). But that was two Ages and 7000 years before the War of the Ring.

A lot happens in 7000 years. In Middle-earth, as I said, the dwarves went into decline, were expelled at great cost from one home after another, and by the dying days of the Third Age were a shadow of their former glory. Expecting the dwarves to field armies in the War of the Ring of the sort they could in the First Age against Morgoth, is a bit like expecting Italy to still be a super power today because of the Roman Empire two thousand years ago. Or more accurately, expecting Egypt to still dominate the world because it was the finest civilisation around in 5000 BC. It's nonsense.

In the First Age of Light the dwarves were a super power. But no super power lasts forever, not here, and not in Middle-earth. 7000 years later the dwarves were barely strong enough to hold one settlement and could do no more than basically fight a last stand defensive campaign. Hell, even the elves couldn't do any more than that either, so why expect the dwarves to do more?

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Scutatus
Scutatus

Sorry Andrelm, I might have been missing your point. Are you arguing against the dwarves fighting ANY war or battle in the game at all, because they a) did not in Tolkien's history because b) they did not have the strength to do so? In which case, as much as I love the dwarves, I would have to agree with you. :D

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Guest
Guest

This comment is currently awaiting admin approval, join now to view.

imasteri
imasteri

NOOOO PEACE PLEASE DWARFS AND ELFS ARE GOOD BOYS

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
cristy80
cristy80

YES

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Guest
Guest

This comment is currently awaiting admin approval, join now to view.

Guest
Guest

This comment is currently awaiting admin approval, join now to view.

Petrolsky
Petrolsky

No

Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote
Guest
Guest

This comment is currently awaiting admin approval, join now to view.

Post a comment

You are not logged in, your comment will be anonymous unless you join the community. Or sign in with your social account:

News
Browse
News
New
Post news
Share
Related Games
Mount & Blade: Warband
Mount & Blade: Warband Role Playing