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a basic overview of a scifi face off, to wrok out which faction in the mod is most powerful...

Posted by Spinobreaker on Nov 5th, 2010

Hey
This is the big surprise i was telling u about...
Basically its a tournament with one faction talking on another 1v1 style. It uses 2 HARD AI players, facing them off using a screen capture to capture the battle. I have not interfered or altered the outcome in any way. This battle is the two AIs only. I have cut a few things to make it more interesting, but over all it plays out how ever it plays out. I will be putting one up a week.
So heres the layout so far, i will post an image soon in the gallery showing this properly, but here it is...

ROUND 1 lineup is
Group 1
Wing Commander v Star Trek
Halo v Babylon 5
Group 2
Starship troopers v Battlestar Galactica

Stargate v Star Wars

ROUND 2
Group 1
Halo v Star Trek

Group 2
Battlestar V Star Wars

ROUND 3
Star Trek v Star Wars

winners will progress to round 2 then 3 versing the other winner in there group, loosers will be knocked out
This will continue until all the factions have fought.

I will be filming group 2 first, because they are all in and working, so far Halo, B5 and WC are no where near complete enough to do this. So they will wait until they are, if they are not ready enough by there turn then they surrender and we move on lol.

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Nathanius
Nathanius Nov 5 2010, 10:50pm says:

I like those odds for Trek :P

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power.5000
power.5000 Nov 5 2010, 11:58pm says:

stargate is pwned i mena star destroyers got **** on prothenus but ori may help out...

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 6 2010, 11:26am replied:

oh yeah
lol

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1234boo75
1234boo75 Nov 6 2010, 5:02am says:

power to point out the stargate faction seems to own all others in the beta lol uless some ones sorted out there balencing now

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joey5452
joey5452 Nov 6 2010, 5:53am says:

aw i wanted to see halo in action :P

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WarJunkie
WarJunkie Nov 7 2010, 6:53am says:

Halo will rise to vs star wars in final battle and hopefully win!

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timstro59
timstro59 Nov 7 2010, 7:27am says:

im no expert on babylon 5(haven't even seen a single episode), but i think halo is going to own.

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cber
cber Nov 7 2010, 10:00pm replied:

NO Chance

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SPARTAN291
SPARTAN291 Nov 7 2010, 6:18pm says:

Technically speaking, if you went in and actually calculated the weapons' output for each and every ship in this mod (I know that at least Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo, and Star Gate have numbers out there for each ship and weapon), Halo would be completely uncontested. The UNSC's MAC platforms alone pack enough kinetic energy in each shot to completely atomize ships the size of cities if all of the momentum was transferred rather than simply having the projectile pass through, and Covenant frigates alone can withstand more than a single high yield nuclear device and still keep on fighting, never mind the big ships or the Forerunner "Dreadnaught" (actually a Keyship, their version of an oversized lifeboat to escape to the Ark and beyond the Halo array's effects), and even then the Covenant fleet would still horribly outnumber even the Empire's by at least a 2 to 1 margin if they were both in their prime. Still, it should be interesting to see which comes out on top.

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 8 2010, 1:05pm replied:

Nah
put all weapons of halo's best ship into just one, now make 150 of those
congratulations you have ONE Star Destroyer!

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GLaDOS95
GLaDOS95 Nov 11 2010, 7:51am replied:

I remember a star war book that siad that the rebels destoyed a star Destroyer with a nuke? if it didn't kill it Then just use a NOVA bomb (NOVA FTW)

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 12 2010, 2:47pm replied:

they loaded it into the star destroyer
destroyed inside out

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sgtNACHO
sgtNACHO Nov 12 2010, 2:31pm replied:

Also
CCS-Battlecruiser=1,782 meters
ISD=1,600 meters
CAC=5,346 meters (17,540 feet)
Executor SSD= 19,000 feet.

... Regret's fleet that attacked Earth in Halo 2, which was a fairly small Covenant fleet for attacking a major planet, had 2 Assault Carriers and 13 CCS. If we are going on basic sizes (which the Empire tends to like using as a factor) The Covenant would most likely have a better fleet. The Empire is lucky to have 1 Executor and 3 ISDs. The Covenant brought twice as many large capital ships and over four times as many medium sized capital ships...and that was a small fleet.

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 12 2010, 2:48pm replied:

the empire has hundreds of thousands of ships
movie 3 in the begin
original ones are old limiting numbers

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rabidwookie
rabidwookie Nov 11 2010, 5:01pm says:

Stargate owns them all, the sheilding abilitys of even the hatak vessels are more than anything els can penetrate, therefor they win. Wars comes in 2nd and after that its 2 close to call

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sgtNACHO
sgtNACHO Nov 12 2010, 2:06pm says:

I think Halo has a huge advantage with MAC's and Covenant shielding. I'd say a CAC (Assault Carrier) is like a star destroyer, but bigger. Star Wars will need to get the Executor to really pull off a victory

As far as shielding goes I'd say Covenant beats Star Wars, I'm not sure on the shielding in Stargate, although it seems closer to Star Trek, meaning it hardly ever fails entirely but often fails to stop all the force of a weapon... meaning a MAC, if it didn't penetrate the shield would still send the ship spiraling because of the kinetic energy.

Halo's mix between UNSC, Covenant, and Forerunner is going to really give it an edge.

Also I never got too much into BSG, what could they have that would bring them victory? They are pretty similar to Halo but without MAC's or Plasma Torpedoes correct?

Either way I'd like to see Halo come out on top..believe it or not :)

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 12 2010, 2:50pm replied:

dont know why
SW ships are much stronger
halo is near future
SW, SG use tech of super advanced races
much beyond halo

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sgtNACHO
sgtNACHO Nov 12 2010, 4:27pm replied:

I'm just going off of what I can see. A Star Destroyer has shields but similar to most shields in Sci-Fi the shield only reduces damage not stops it. Covenant Shields leave the ship completely free of damage up until they are broken. Also Star Destroyers most effective weapon would be its ion cannons, for taking out the Covie shields.

Yes UNSC is a little less advanced as far as tech goes. But that doesn't mean they are useless. A UNSC Frigate has 1 MAC gun, 3 SHIVA nukes, 1500 Archer Missiles, and some silly point defense guns. This is roguhly the weakest ship the UNSC possess. Yet that MAC gun can tear a whole in an unshielded Covie ship and totally wreck anything the UNSC possesses.
One Archer missile holds a 10-20 megaton nuclear warhead. That means one Archer missile is equal to 666.66(repeating) Hiroshima bombs. And there are 1500 on board the weakest UNSC ship. Meaning in just Archer Missiles a Frigate carries 1 million Hiroshima bombs.
I'm guessing that UNSC Titanium-A armor is probably just as or a little weaker than most Star Wars, BSG, StarShip Troopers, Star Trek armors. So I say you add UNSC destructive power, plus superior Covenant shielding and Star Wars loses. I have never seen a Star Destroyer actually kill anything in one hit.

Oh and the Empire can't hit the broadside of a barn that was 20 feet away with anything that isn't a Death Star

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 12 2010, 10:01pm says:

there is the EU (or expanded universe) that fill the gaps of tech and others
SDs shots are as powerful as nukes (each) if not more
one turbolaser produces 500 gigaton (500.000 megatons) of energy (something like that, i dont remember, all i know its much more than 30 megatons)
shields of one SD can resist the damage of a similar ship for 30 min (hundreds of turbos like that one at once)
logical that after the shields are gone it cant survive much longer
you have never seem a SD kill anything in one hit because the other SW ships are almost as advance as itself, all is relative
remembering that 80% of SW planets are shielded with enough strength to hold a hole SD fleet for days
the DS 1 shot can bypass that
SW is overpowered but in the cannon is like that

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dron1885
dron1885 Nov 13 2010, 3:28pm replied:

Eah, but SSD was destroyed by two fighters that ram it in bridge))

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 13 2010, 8:53pm says:

proportional power, the fighter is resistant enough to do it
if it was a halo fighter nothing would happen, plus the shields were down and the ship damaged
+ gravity
the hit destabilizes it for enough time to crash it into DS II

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sgtNACHO
sgtNACHO Nov 15 2010, 11:55pm replied:

A Longsword is a big freaking fighter you can see in this mods pics. An A-Wing took out that SSD and an A-wing is tiny. How advanced your ship is doesn't matter when your talking about smacking into things. Its all about mass, velocity, and all that other stuffs not how strong your laser cannon is. So A large Longsword would have probably done more damage than that little A-Wing

Also don't think I'm hating on Star Wars or anything by any means. Love everything about it. I just think Halo tech has an advantage as quite frankly it has different technology working together. Star Wars will always be the same...always. If someone ever advanced the tech in star wars it'd be end of the world. So I think the more varied force is harder to counter and more varied in its strategy than a focused force like Star Wars.

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 14 2010, 7:37pm says:

i agree with luciano star killer, it took that whole reb fleet with moncals and fighter bombers to make it vulnerable to that fighter!

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 14 2010, 7:40pm says:

By the way, COULD YOU PLEASE RELEASE THE NEXT VERSION LIKE TODAY!!!!!!!ALL OF YOUR SCREENIES AND VIDS ARE MAKING ME DROOL!!!!!!!!!!!

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 14 2010, 9:00pm says:

let me see something
to YOU (what you think!) in a scale 0(just discovered computers) to 100(absolute control) the factions power is?
for me is like this:
SW: 96
SG: 70
ST: 50
BSG: ?
Halo: 50?
SST: 15?
B5: ?
WC: ?

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dron1885
dron1885 Nov 15 2010, 12:21pm replied:

SW: 90
SG: 75
ST: 50
BSG: 30
B5: 45
Halo: 43
SST: 20
WC: ?

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 15 2010, 11:05pm says:

Hmmmmmm...... I wonder if he will release the next version on Thanksgiving! Oh wait.... does he even have a Thanksgiving in Australia?

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker Nov 16 2010, 2:03am replied:

nope, if we did wed probably eat a kangaroo or something, they taste like... well like chicken, in a very creepy way :p

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 16 2010, 10:48pm says:

LOL! but seriously, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE THE NEXT VERSION?!?!? I WANNA PLAY THE HALO FLEET!!!!!! Maybe Xmas????

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker Nov 16 2010, 11:34pm replied:

when its doen, i have no intention in releasing it as it is now, since its started to randomly freeze, and i dont know y, so unitl i solve that mystery i wont release it, but i will keep adding stuff 2 it

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 17 2010, 7:24pm says:

Could you give me like the rough version? I don't care if its buggy, I've put up with worse than crashing to play a beast mod like yours.

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 17 2010, 8:10pm replied:

wait till the begin of 2011 (im not saying the mod will be released in that date)
meanwhile try some other mods, games...
there are other stuff around
it will be worth your time
im sure!

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker Nov 17 2010, 9:22pm replied:

i dont release something till im happy with it, sorry, not coming for at least 2 or 3 months

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 19 2010, 6:20pm says:

@#$%!!!!!!! I want to make the galaxies duel each other and so far this is the only mod that's complete that offers that kind of game play!!!!

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker Nov 20 2010, 12:29am replied:

as for the GC, the issue is thato nly 3 factions will work at one time, and those three are BSG, STargate and STar WArs... thats all

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 19 2010, 6:23pm says:

F.Y.I. I know u have x fire Spinobreaker (i found your account) and if you want to talk, I'm almost always available. (x fire: gen4321)

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Spinobreaker Author
Spinobreaker Nov 20 2010, 12:29am replied:

i dont use it very often if ever lol

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LucianoStarKiller
LucianoStarKiller Nov 19 2010, 8:10pm says:

well...
about that:
Moddb.com
its a nice mod as well
although younger
try it out

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gen4321
gen4321 Nov 20 2010, 12:32am says:

I already checked that one out..... I don't like mods that make you mess with the main foc's files, just ones that go into the mods folder. I still think that mod would be beast if it had a better install!

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