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I have an important announcement referring to the change in the production that I've mentioned before in the forums.

In the last weeks the production already entered in maximum speed because it is intended to release in the first quarter of 2014. (and yes, it will be on steam, yay!)

In the last month VT gained the support of a publisher, this is really great news and I believe this was possible thanks to the support of all of you.

They will provide resources to make the game better and they are not interested in limiting the “artistic freedom” of the game. (they only requested multiplayer mode, but it was already intended to be added if there was a possibility). This and releasing earlier than initially planned tightens the schedule as there is plenty of stuff to add before we can meet the set date of release.

This leads to the only downside I see with this. Because this will be a race to the finish line, and as it was a request from their side, the alpha funding will have to be concluded.
While I’m a bit sad about this, since I was enjoying a lot this style of development, I will respect their request.

However, while the alpha funding will be closed, I’m interest in providing a few more meaningful updates.

I’m very grateful to all of you and I want you to know that even if I couldn’t reveal any information until all was set, I am and will continue to be looking for your best interests.

But don’t worry, all the alpha supporters until now will receive the final copy of the game so that is not really an issue. I will also continue to be present here and I will provide support with tutorials and news, however it will be several months without any playable update.

As for your suggestions, I always enjoyed them and I’ll be grateful if everyone continues to provide them. However like I said before, the schedule for the release is very thigh, there is a lot to do, but if is any free time available it will be used to address some of your suggestions.

Also because of alpha funding will be concluded, I’m very interest in making the mission Editor flawless before the updates end, so all you can keep entertained while there is no more updates.
Since the F-22 is so popular, I believe it’s the best plane to add in the final updates (but it won’t be the only one).

With this said, it up to you if you respect or not this new development. But I’ll accept any of your opinions and either way I still will be very grateful to you all.

But stay tuned, more reports will follow.

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MyHatismyFriend
MyHatismyFriend

So do you have a totally "free" reign over game development and design? It's important that they do not limit your freedom to develop the game how you choose. Good luck with getting everything on track and published nicely.

While the art style is going to remain the same, please remember to update the graphics and afterburner/explosions, etc. effects- they were one of the things that the Greenlighters didn't like.
Also remember to include landing/take-off, Anti-Submarine Warfare, Infiltration-Reconnaissance, MOAR SUPERWEAPONS for us to use in our campaigns, and GUI and Hangar updates. Remember to stick the F-14 in there too >:0.

If you're stuck on Multiplayer gamemodes and stuff, the Forum Section has a ton of great ideas. Here's hoping for a unbuggy and well-optimised multiplayer.

Finally, if you need any descriptions for new weapons/aircraft, you can grab me here or through my email.

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timeSymmetry Author
timeSymmetry

Thanks for the support, but also thanks for the remainder, there a lot to add but there is still a lot to improve as well.

As for the publisher, I was also concerned at first that they could force the game to go in a direction that would stray away from the initial goals, but that doesn’t seams do be that case and up to now I have the good impression on them.

And about the multiplayer, you can be sure that I’ll use the forums to draw inspiration and probably ask you all what do you think is the best approach to balance the disparity of the aircrafts' performance in the multiplayer mode.

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CayceG
CayceG

The best way to 'balance' the disparity between plane performance is simple.

No Player vs. Player multiplayer.

Make multiplayer co-op only in large scale battle scenarios or skirmishes.

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szboudreau01
szboudreau01

Or, with PvP (which I'd love), limit the battles to tiers, like say, Tier 1 (Beginner planes like MiG-21bis), Tier 2, Tier 3 (more capable fighters, like F-104), Tier 4, and Tier 5/God (Su-47/74, P.125, etc)?

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bornloser
bornloser

No need to go that far. All you have to do ban indidividual planes and weapons, Timesplitters style. One server might be running a 5th gen free-for-all while another can limit the players to fishbeds and starfighters. Then if you put server mods on top of that then players can rebalance every plane in the game to their heart's content. And if you still don't like that there will also be people running coop servers.

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IbizenThoth
IbizenThoth

I believe that in addition to tiers, one might want to make the system fairly conducive to team play, and keep the number of players per team relatively small, say three or four, since large numbers of players only mean massive lag for a game like VT, where position data is extremely important. Tighter, more interesting combat would be preferable to large, and pointless furballs.

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szboudreau01
szboudreau01

^
this

Also, maybe different MP game modes, like, say.. Base Defense, CTF, KOTH, Team KOTH, etc.?

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Nergal01
Nergal01

Moddb.com

Many game mode ideas have been discussed already (including some ridiculous ones), might want to make a thread there to share your idea.

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bornloser
bornloser

I'm not sure lag will be that big a problem with arcade physics. If it is then the server host could limit team sizes themselves but they should have the choice to do so.

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lordarabil
lordarabil

also make multiplayer gameplay a tad bit slower. otherwise it would get wayy too fast and chaotic and dizzying.

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bornloser
bornloser

I'd add it as an option but not make it default.

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Wheaton_Adams
Wheaton_Adams

If it's on Steam, I wonder if you'll be able to use an authorized copy of Steamplay, so the game's netcode would be clear, smooth and use Steam's port instead of having to waste time developping a netcode of your own.

Any chances?

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timeSymmetry Author
timeSymmetry

Yes, the game will use the Steam API for multiplayer, but will also use for achievements, leaderboards (arcade/challenge mode) and others.

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szboudreau01
szboudreau01

What about non-Steam users? How will you deal with them and Multi?

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dhannemon13
dhannemon13

And local ( LAN ) multiplayer please. For the slow internet user, and those who wants to play with their friends ;)

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Nergal01
Nergal01

There's rarely a Steam game with LAN play ability to begin with.

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D_M
D_M

But if you use the steam API, what about the multiplayer of the Desura version ?

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Nergal01
Nergal01

Moreover, will the modding limited to Steam workshop only? I hope not.

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timeSymmetry Author
timeSymmetry

Good question, I forgot to mention, but the mods and custom content for this versions will remain compatible with the final version.

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Maestro_Fenix
Maestro_Fenix

Oh god, this game on Steam. Imagine the custom campaigns. Hell, I wanna try if it would be possible to do the XB-0 mission on VT.

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LesserAngel
LesserAngel

Getting a release on Steam is normally a good thing, so yay! (I still want my F-8, I don't care that it's older than dirt) So looking forward to release and I hope your publisher gives you the support you need.

By the way, WHO is your publisher now anyways?

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Nergal01
Nergal01

Deep Sil-

Oh wait. I'm not giving anyone idea.

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LesserAngel
LesserAngel

Deep Silver would be better than some other possibilities.

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timeSymmetry Author
timeSymmetry

The publisher is Iceberg interactive.

As for the F-8, it is not in the “100% sure list” but it still is one of those aircrafts that highly interest me. But you will be know if it is added if it is announced in a report a usual.

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bornloser
bornloser

Never heard of them. That's probably a good thing.

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Nergal01
Nergal01

AFAIK they published Stardrive too.

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Lupus_of_nox_noctis
Lupus_of_nox_noctis

Theyve published a whole bunch of awesome Indie games actually, Endless Space and Stardrive, Terraria I think and even Frozen Synapse. Theyre pretty alright in my books

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CayceG
CayceG

For what it's worth, I gave you a list a year ago you said you'd incorporate. The F-8 was on it.

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Bakelit
Bakelit

will you be able to port your desura version over to steam?

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timeSymmetry Author
timeSymmetry

Custom content yes, but for saved data I’m not sure, maybe it will be added a way to import the saved data.

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szboudreau01
szboudreau01

I was going to give an entire reminder on what a Publisher might do-but it seems I don't have to say that, considering that they put a release date on..
I'm just gonna say one thing, then!

At least it's not EA.

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bornloser
bornloser

Would there be any way for players to create new features post release? Something like scripting or a full sdk? Not sure how to explain my suggestion better, just that the less is hardcoded the better.

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Nergal01
Nergal01

I'd like to know, at certain time (either several months after its release or after the final game has been released on Steam), will this 'final alpha version' made available as free demo?

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Endymion_FRS
Endymion_FRS

Congrats, I'm happy to hear this. The admittedly short time I spent in the alpha a couple months ago was a fun time and I'm definitely excited to see what the final product looks like!

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Deyren
Deyren

Great news!

Will there be an option to "transfer" or bind already bought Desura's game into/to my Steam account?

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Nergal01
Nergal01

More importantly, will it be released on other digital distributor that isn't Steam? (let's say, GoG?)

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Nergal01
Nergal01

Another question: will missing features like these:
-non-working gun reticle
-animated engine nozzle
-landing gears
-etc
will be implemented in the final update?

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szboudreau01
szboudreau01

I hope so!

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redout22
redout22

This is fantastic news! Can't wait to see what some helping hands can do with this!

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OrangeFr3ak
OrangeFr3ak

How do we move from Desura to Steam then?

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MyHatismyFriend
MyHatismyFriend

We'll probably be getting a steam gift code or something.

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lordarabil
lordarabil

Awesome news TS!

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Bergdwerg
Bergdwerg

Wow congratulations! Just a small question, will our version stay on desura or are we forced to move too the steamplatform?

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szboudreau01
szboudreau01

to*
It will stay on Desura, I know it-Times wouldn't be that guy.

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dhannemon13
dhannemon13

If the game uses Steam API, it must use Steam app ?

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Nergal01
Nergal01

"Yes, the game will use the Steam API for multiplayer, but will also use for achievements, leaderboards (arcade/challenge mode) and others."

Read first pls. It's right above your first comment.

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szboudreau01
szboudreau01

Still, how would non-steam users be able to go on Multiplayer?
I know nothing of the Steam API, so..

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bornloser
bornloser

I have no idea but you can run half life mods on desirable even though the base game is on steam

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bornloser
bornloser

*desura

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HunterRuZ
HunterRuZ

Hi all! I wanted to ask this question: will this game translated into other languages( e.g. Spanish, Russian etc)?

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Nergal01
Nergal01

AFAIK aside English there's Portuguese and French so far.

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HunterRuZ
HunterRuZ

Well, Yes

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