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An announcement showing a very early E-100 and a new infantry weapon for 1949. It will also provide info on the unique Panzer Elite Faction.

Posted by Lord_Wiffleby on Sep 30th, 2011

The Panzer Elite is rather different in how it functions from any vanilla faction. Sure, it still has the basic choice of one of three command trees and units that fulfill certain roles. However, its veterancy and tech system are almost totally foreign to CoH.

Before I cover any of that, though, here is the very early image of the E-100. Basically, I wanted to show this extremely early version because I want the community's opinion on how to proceed. There are several conceivable designs that the E-100 had that could be used. Send me image links if you like, just let me know what you all think it should look like. That said, here is the very early image:

A very early picture of something you all wanted

As I said, let me know what version of the E-100 YOU want to see.

Now then, on to another important subject: all of the Panzer Elite's non-command tree infantry have been completed! Before I give you a preview of them, however, I need to brief you on the new veterancy/tech system for auxiliary infantry.

First of all, Panzer Grenadiers are the most balanced troops available to the Panzer Elite, and are always available from the HQ. However, there are two other buildings the PE can construct to gain specialist troops: the Auxiliary Troop Headquarters, and the Polizei Headquarters.

The Polizei Headquarters can produce three infantry units: Polizei, Elite Polizei, and Strafbattalion Squads. Each one is a tech tier higher than the one preceding it. Each building advances independently of the other, or perhaps I should say that each building's units advance independently of the others. You do not advance your "tech" tier by doing research, but rather by fighting and gaining veterancy.  Here is a brief chart to give you some idea of what happens:

 

Basically, once Polizei gain the right veterancy level, you are capable of building Elite Polizei. Once they reach the proper veterancy level, Strafbattalion Squads become available.

The same principle holds true for the infantry unit from the Auxiliary Troop Headquarters: Volksschutzen, Schutzen, and Elite Schutzen are each required for the other.

Commanders should also note that each unit will gain specific abilities and weapons as they gain veterancy,giving you reason to keep producing the lower tier units as well. Furthermore, since they become more effective as they fight, lower tier troops might actually be a cheaper alternative to elite soldiers.

In any case, let us showcase the new units, and a new weapon. You've already seen the Volksschutzen, who can be recruited by both the Panzer Elite and the Wehrmacht. So let us move on to the Schutzen:

Schutzen

Schutzen are troops who specialize in long range combat, and are fairly easy to kill outside of cover. Once they are in cover, however, they gain a great deal of accuracy and their received accuracy falls through the floor. As they gain veterancy, they gain rifle grenade launchers, which allow them to disrupt assailants, or to help their comrades in arms by pushing enemies from cover.

Up next are the Elite Schutzen:

Elite Schutzen

Elite Schutzen are marksmen whose quality almost rivals that of a sniper. In cover, they are practically invulnerable to enemy infantry, and their enemy had best watch themselves if they don't want to be splattered across the field of battle.

Let us move on to the Polizei Headquarters. Polizei have already been seen before, and all that needs to be known about them is that as they gain veterancy, they become capable of building roadblocks and other obstructions to deny the areas they have captured to enemies. Now that this has been noted, it is time to move on to the Polizei Elite, whose final arsenal has yet to be decided.

Polizei Elite

Polizei Elite are capable of capturing regions very quickly like Polizei, but provide other key talents, such as detecting stealth and being capable of holding their own in battle.

Last but not least, we have the Strafbattalion Squad, which is modeling the newest weapon for 1949, the SB-48. I should explain that this weapon represents a small change in policy for me, which is to allow some fictional elements into the mod, though not too many. I'll be following a policy of "if it isn't broke, don't fix it". That said, I'm sure all of you realize that this means I'll start accepting more prototype suggestions, and be putting old ones into consideration again. Fully fictional suggestions will also be suggested, especially for some of the as yet unannounced factions. Without further ado, here is the image of the men in question:

Strafbattalion

Translated from German, Strafbattalion means Penal Unit. In other words, these are men who have committed crimes and been sentenced to death by combat, with the only chance for escape being enough victories in the field. As such, many of these men are desperate to escape from their fate, and have the skills required to do so. As such, a substantial Polizei presence is required to keep them in line.

Though it is not easy to see the weapon they are carrying, it is the new Schrotbüchse 48. In English, this is the Shotgun model 1948. Germans realized they might need a new shotgun design if they were going to invade America and England, which have large cities, and in America's case, large populations with which to form resistance movements. The weapon is semi-automatic, and is altered from the basis of the STG-45. It fires pellets, as well as Brenneke slugs, which allows them greater range and penetration against single targets. Light cover is pretty much no match against this weapon.

That concludes this announcement. For credits, see the images page.

With Regards,
Lord Wiffleby

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Hokipoki
Hokipoki Oct 1 2011, 7:44am says:

that strafbattalion soldier helmet reminds me of this one picture where 3 finnish soldiers sit in a trench and they all have similar skulls painted to their helmets

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X Oct 1 2011, 7:52am says:

So the Strafbattalion members are normal Wehrmacht soldiers only charged with crimes in their service and sentencted into suicidal units?.

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godzillafirefox
godzillafirefox Oct 1 2011, 8:35am replied:

yep, the russians did the same.

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X Oct 1 2011, 8:41am replied:

Yeah I know.

And the penal batalions were more popular there

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Ruostenyrkki
Ruostenyrkki Oct 1 2011, 8:57am says:

Haha yeah they remind me of the three finnish soldiers with skulls on their helmets. Those new guns also look like the finnish SKP-m31 submachinegun.

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C&C_FOREVER
C&C_FOREVER Oct 1 2011, 9:15am says:

about the E-100, i know it's a very early version but are the model with a king tiger chasis?and if you do not want to use the mausturm there other images on turrets that could be fit on it and you guys could use the 17cm kwk44

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MartyForEels
MartyForEels Oct 1 2011, 9:39am says:

Great Work ! Not sure if E-100 was used if war continued. All superheavy and few of heavy (Tiger II) tanks were just terrible desings that would have been unusable in any other than defence war.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 1 2011, 11:33am replied:

thats were your wrong, the designs were very good, i mean the KT if not rushed to service and with some more time, they would have solved most if not all technical faults, transsmision engien and so on. The design was good only the material was lacking ( bad steal, pussy engines, to complex tranissmision) but if you look at the design german tanks werent at all terrible, somewhat inpractible like the Maus (which was also a good design but again inpractible and if in service would also have a lot of technical faults which would be resolved over time). But the KT was a great attack weapon. When it work it was very nimble for a heavy vehicle, it ha d a great gun and wa salso quite fast, could go the same as a tiger 1 on roads and a little slower than the tiger 1 off roads, The maus would have been used probbaly in support role or defence i agree there cause it could barely go 20 kph on roads :P.

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MartyForEels
MartyForEels Oct 1 2011, 1:56pm replied:

Yes, KV-1 was incredible desing. Just like first Tiger. But KV-2, Tiger II or any supertank were just terrible, slow, easy to take out with air raid beasts that wouldnt find any real use in actual warfare. I mean, they were great for defense roles - But they would be really inpractical in assault warfare or Blietzkrieg.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 1 2011, 2:24pm replied:

since when is kv 2 a "super tank" even the KT isnt super heavy

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MartyForEels
MartyForEels Oct 2 2011, 2:36am replied:

I never said KV series were supertanks.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 2 2011, 4:59am replied:

But KV-2, Tiger II or any supertank were just terrible
or did you meant kv 2 tiger 2 and any other super tank ?

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MartyForEels
MartyForEels Oct 2 2011, 8:25am replied:

I meant what i wrote. KV-2, Tiger II or any of the supertanks were terrible.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 2 2011, 10:28am replied:

well super tanks i agree but kv 2 and KT did have their ups and downs :P, but the ups werent worth the trouble XD

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aidas2
aidas2 Oct 1 2011, 9:51am says:

Isn't it a simple model mix between Tigers Maus and KT? If so, it's not much work really. Looks rather good though, needs a matching texture.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 1 2011, 11:34am says:

About the E series, if ever made they woudl have probably changed history, again the designs were better in some cases like the smaller e series SPGs and TDs and light tanks and in heavy tansk like the E 50 and E 75 (an upgraded tiger 2 that woudl have had betetr mobility, armor and the same or if not better AT gun), and some designs of the E series were far fetched like the E 100 that would have had few in battle weakneses but lets afce it , if the luftwaffe had control of the sky maybe the maus and e 100 could be used and be worth the efort and material necessery for pruducing them but other wise they would have been blown up by enemy air raidslike the original operatinal maus (some say a canadian battalion faught it others that a russian, but the yall say that they suffered heavy loses and couldnt touch it tillt he air raid came (or it could be a arty striek , not sure). So yea german designs were all terrible specialy tanks,mayb einpractible or to far ahead of their time but mostly brilliant (not the karl gerat or heavy gustav , guys -.-) If the war had been nicer to germany (thank god it wasnt) we could have seen deady and fast atatcking tanks like the E 50 or an E 100 spearheading an assult folloved by the more meanuvrable E 75 . And when the allies would atatck they could have been stoped by tank platoons with maus heavy tansk or the E series TD. But we can only guess what would have been. THis is just my opinion and view of things.

this was meant to be under the first part :P

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 2 2011, 3:48am replied:

you're wrong about the whole "superiority of german super-heavy tanks" thing. as far as the offensive usefulness of the king tiger: during the battle of the bulge they were unable to be used because they were too slow and too hampered by wooded terrain of the ardennes to advance on anything but roads. they ended up slowing the attacking elements so much they were left behind to guard rear areas while the attackers pressed on.
plus, the performance of tigers/king tigers while on the offensive on the russian front was far from spectacular. even with new/better engines, etc., it would not have changed the tiger from a defensive to an offensive tank.

actually all the germans had to do was focus their armoured efforts on producing and ironing out their pz. v medium tanks and they would have been set in armoured combat. had they kicked the tiger, king tiger, and the ridiculous maus -> e series tanks to the curb early they would have been fine in armoured combat until at least 1945. by that time they would have had a chance to work on their "panzer x" prototypes, which had design features still found on today's tanks. although they would never have lasted that long anyways, not without a miracle.

while i agree that the maus, ratte, and e-series tanks were really cool-looking and make interesting fan-art; they were never more than nazi wet dreams that would have made a negligible impact on the actual outcome of the war. that is, except to shorten it by diverting resources away from more worthwhile military projects.
hmmm, maybe they should have built a ratte after all...

*edit*
also, there was no way for the germans to build both an effective air force and a top-of-the-line armoured corps at the same time, not while caught between russian tanks on one side and allied bombers on the other. they went to total war mode too late for that, and even then...

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MartyForEels
MartyForEels Oct 2 2011, 9:13am replied:

Actually, first Tiger was just incredible design.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 2 2011, 10:36am replied:

well make up your mind, tiger and tiger 2 were about the same design the diffrence was int he armor, and with thsi if the tiger was an incredible design the KT was an even more incredible design, but it didnt work due to the germans lacking betetr transmisions and engines and if you sa yother wise than you ddint get my previous comment about the priblems being solved, the tiger wasnt perfect when it entere service btut he faults were fixed since they had time and resources to fix them, while with the KT they didnt have nor the resources nore the time to fix the transsmision and engine, and youve said the tiger 2 was slow and not maneuvrable, when tested the KT proved to be VERY fast and maneuvrable for its weight and size, that is until the engien broke down but that wasnt a design flaw of the tankd design but a flaw in the engien design and with time im sure the Germans would have made a much better and reliable transsmision and a more powerful engine but the war had progressed to far so they did not have time or the reosurces to make new ones and if you think about it the onyl problem wa sin the transsmison and engien the kt had almost no combat weakneses exept soem problems with spalling due to bad steel

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 3 2011, 2:34am replied:

show me any credible source that calls the king tiger fast or manuverable with any engine or transmission from the 1940s.

and even if it had been, the time and resources that would have to be used getting it there would have been better spent on other, more practical things, such as fighters (volksjager), air defenses, or refining a more practical medium tank you already possess anyways (read: panther)

as you pointed out earlier, those kinds of super-heavy tanks would only have been practical if germany possessed air superiority, or at least contested the skies. this could not have happened if the finite resources of the german war machine are geared towards building and refining those tanks. this would leave a hole in fighter production and development, allowing the allies to sit back and blow away your 100-million mark tank with a 500 dollar bomb dropped from an eighty thousand dollar "Jug".
thats not a very efficient way to fight a war, not if you plan on winning...

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xxxviroxxx
xxxviroxxx Oct 3 2011, 6:52am replied:

Here you go:

Pz.Kpfw.Tiger Ausf.B "Tiger II" 1
Pz.Kpfw.Panther Ausf.G 2
Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.H. 3
Sturmgeschütz Ausf.G. 4

1. 2. 3. 4.
Maximum speed 41.5 km./h. 46 km./h. 38-42 km./h. 40 km./h.
Road speed 38 km./h. 30-35 km./h. 25 km./h. 20 km./h.
Cross-country speed 15-20 km./h. 20 km./h. 20 km./h. 12-15 km./h.
Range (on road) 170 km. 200 km. 210 km. 155 km.
Range (cross-country) 120 km. 100 km. 130 km. 95 km.
Trench crossing 2.5 m. 2.45 m. 2.3 m. 2.3 m.
Fording 1.6 m. 1.9 m. 0.8 m. 0.8 m.
Step clibing. 0.85 m. 0.9 m. 0.6 m. 0.6 m.
Climbing, degrees 35°. 35° 30° 30°
Ground pressure 1.03 kg./cm2 0.88 kg./cm2 0.89 kg./cm2 1.04 kg./cm2

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 3 2011, 10:43am replied:

I find those stats to be highly suspect. aside from the fact that you have not cited any source but instead have merely thrown up a bunch of numbers, you are aware that the king tiger used the exact same maybach 230 engine used in the panther?

so essentially those stats are telling me that a 70-ton tank with the same engine as a 45-ton tank only suffers an average mobility loss of around 5 mph, and in some cases is even faster? that's ridiculous. this is without even going into those ridiculous fuel consumption numbers

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 3 2011, 10:48am replied:

look we are talkign about the design,if they woudl suck in reality cause of air raids thats not a design flaw of the tank

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 3 2011, 12:57pm replied:

@stuka;
yes but if it sucks in reality because of air raids then it doesn't make it a very good choice to produce then does it? not if you must cripple the rest of your industrial base to make enough of them to make any kind of difference. age old struggle between 'perfect' and 'good enough', except in this case the 'perfect' tank, isn't.
@xxx;
as for your sources, thanks for citing them. however, they seem to use too many idealized statistics as far as engine power and fuel consumption go. more on this later, right now i have to go. though i will be happy to continue, ww2 is my hobby ;)

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 3 2011, 1:20pm replied:

yes but if you talk JUST about the design the KT was impressive ;)

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 3 2011, 3:53pm replied:

as far as JUST design? yes it was.
it suffered however, from an underpowered engine, an overtaxed transmission, and far too much ground pressure (xxx's numbers are about 20% off). *to say nothing of its enourmous cost, which outweighed it actual combat usefulness.* this severly limited the kt's operational usefulness in almost anything other than defensive in nature, which was fine for what it was being used for in 1944-45, but there were other tanks that fit the bill for defense just as or nearly as well that were far less expensive and less complicated to build and which were still capable of effective counterattacking across terrain that would halt a kt.
as for germany's situation in '44-'45, they would have been better off dumping the tiger and its varients altogether and instead focusing more on building and refining the pz. v design while updating the pz. iv chassis to fill in the gaps until the pz. v was made standard.

this would have allowed money and research to go into other, more worthwhile projects such as the volksjager and training competent pilots in order to give their forces air superiority/parity.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 3 2011, 4:03pm replied:

yes but that wopuld ahve been solved in the time i mean the tiger wasnt perfect when it entered service and iit got betetr as the war progressed the KT was rushed into servcie and it ddint have a very long service life it couldnt be perfected, betetr engines nad transsmisins woudl ahve surely been developed before the ehav ytansk concept woudl be dropped

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xxxviroxxx
xxxviroxxx Oct 3 2011, 4:50pm replied:

First, the Tiger II was a awesome machine, Second, (No ofence, realy) Wtf have you been smoking? The volksjäger? Me163 salamander? Whats wrong with you? Look at the horten X. Then look at the horten 229. Then throw the salamander back ind fireplace. The design was good, yes. But the horten brothers designs was just... Awesome. I realy dondt want to discus aircraft under this topic, so dondt reply to this part. Oh, please stop calling me tripple x. Call me Viro.

And Now, back to the owning!
In the 44-45 did germany produce so many panzers, that They could not field enought Crew. This ment that they had to rush Them trough training, giving Them so little experience that They had No chance to handle there tank. This proved fatal to the panthers because there final stearing drive was super simpel. You had to predict the gear you would use before turning. If you chose the wrong gear, the Gear would break down, and start a fire in the transmision=fire in the engine=fire ind the fuel rank=destroyed panther. So this was one off the main proplems with the panther. Side note, the panther dindt need a bether engine, id had around the same hp/t A's the late version of the sherman. (15.40 vs 15.80)

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xxxviroxxx
xxxviroxxx Oct 3 2011, 4:54pm replied:

Now, back to The Tiger II. If you was a tank comander, wichtig tank would you chose? A Tiger II, Or three panthers? I know What i would chose:) fact is, The panther was a awesome tank. Fast, (it was fast) great design, good front Armor and great production time plus low cost. But a King tiger. Wow, it is just a... New level. One King tiger cost 321500 RM.. One panther cost 117,100 RM (excluding armament). So you Can get 3 panther for one tiger II. Thats 15 Crew men. Germany could not field 15 Top trained Crewmen for those tanks. So the snive posted proplem starts. 5 Crew members. Germany Cant field those to, But the chances that those five survive there First battle in there tiger II is higher than the 15 dyses in the panthers. This is because the tiger II was feared, and had bether Armor. Plus, Tje transmision was much bether, so was the fibal drive and the suspension. So once the New Crew start there tiger II, They will prop. Over stress the engine, causing a breakdown. And Thats it. Fix the engine, and you Will get a super tank. Plus ine tiger II has to destroy 4 t-34 to be usefull in a production war. And the germans Said, that the tiger I and II was great in attacks, But maybe you know Something we dondt?

And my sources Are perfect.

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 4 2011, 2:47am replied:

yes, viro, the me163 salamander. if you don't want to discuss it here, go ahead and PM me about it, but you had better have some pretty good intel if you really want to step into the realms of ww2 aviation discussion with me, especially about german vunderwaffe.

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 4 2011, 2:49am replied:

now, as you say, to the owning!(?)

anyhoo, yes, you are correct about the early version of the panther. in fact, I'll even do you one better: when it was released it also had a great many other mechanical faults outside of the transmission (most specifically in the engine and in the turret), as well as a really nasty shot-trap in the front of the turret that wasn't fixed until 1944. these were all great, big faults with the early design of the panther tank. these were also teething problems caused by a tank whose design was rushed into production and field service ahead of time, causing the loss more tanks due to mechanical fault than anything else. when these problems were finally ironed out, however, the panther was made into a formidable machine that was capable of killing anything fielded by the allies from range.
now, the time taken to iron out these flaws could have been drastically reduced had the jerries dumped the tiger design in '42 and instead gone 100% into panther tank production. had they done this, they could have easily fielded an army of over 2500 fully capable and mostly bug-free (hmmm, all of a sudden there are several thousand effecient, reliable maybach transmissions without a home. can anyone say "tranny problem solved"?) panther tanks by the end of 1943, and another 6000+ by the end of 1944. more if production had been diverted from the pz. iv to the panther (which was no less complicated to build by the way). these kinds of numbers are possible due to the fact that, as you pointed out, you could build 2 or 3 panthers for every tiger or king tiger. as for crewmen, they obviously had enough crewmembers to justify building many thousands of older pz. iv models right up to the end of the war, so the tankers are obviously there.

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xxxviroxxx
xxxviroxxx Oct 3 2011, 11:23am replied:

Oh, sorry. This is my main sources:

JENTZ, Thomas L. & DOYLE, Hilary Louis. Germany's Tiger tanks - Tiger I & II: Combat tactics. Atglen (PA) : Schiffer Military History, 1997.

JENTZ, Thomas L. & DOYLE, Hilary Louis. PANZER TRACTS No.6 - Schwere Panzerkampfwagen - D.W. to E-100 including the Tigers. Darlington (MD) : Darlington Productions, 2001.

JENTZ, Thomas L., DOYLE, Hilary Louis & SARSON, Peter. Kingtiger heavy tank - 1942-1945. Oxford : Osprey Publishing, 1993.

JENTZ, Thomas L. & DOYLE, Hilary Louis. Germany's Tiger tanks - VK45.02 to Tiger II: Design, production & modifications. Atglen (PA) : Schiffer Military History, 1997.

JENTZ, Thomas L. & DOYLE, Hilary Louis. PANZER TRACTS No.5-3 - Panzerkampfwagen "Panther" Ausfuehrung G. Boyds (MD) : Panzer Tracts, 2004.

JENTZ, Thomas L. & DOYLE, Hilary Louis. PANZER TRACTS No.8 - Sturmgeschuetz - s.Pak to Sturmmoerser. Darlington (MD) : Darlington Productions, Inc., 1999.

JENTZ, Thomas L., DOYLE, Hilary Louis & BRYAN, Tony. New Vanguard 39 - Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf.G, H and J 1942-45. Oxford : Osprey Publishing, 2001.

D 656/43 - Tiger Ausführung B - Handbuch für den Panzerfahrer - Heft I. 1944.

+ 7 years of interest! Still want to discus?

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 3 2011, 12:00pm replied:

finnaly soemoen ho doenst onyl read wikipedia and russian reports

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silentstormpt
silentstormpt Oct 1 2011, 5:12pm says:

The only Super Heavy that was done during the war was the MAUS and the T-28 (that was actually a Super Heavy Tank Destroyer)

E-100 was basecly a "lighter" MAUS, the chassis was done, no turret but we can assume that it would be the same as the MAUS one

Strange-mecha.com

There was another Super Heavy that didnt reach the prototype (because of the MAUS being developed) called Löwe

Achtungpanzer.com

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drako1000
drako1000 Oct 1 2011, 7:46pm says:

nice work but the E-100 is a bit wrong, it had its own chassis and was going to be the largest model in a series of experimental tanks (E-75(replacement for the Tiger II), E-50 (replacement for the Panther 2) and the Krocodile (replacement for the JadgTiger, had a E-100 chassis with a slope like the JadgPanther)). The E-100 was designed as competition for the Maus and in blue-prints mounted several turrets including a Henschel, Krupp (pictured) and the Maus turret. In blue-prints it was mounted with a 128mm cannon with the possibility of a 150mm cannon with a second 75mm co-axial gun.

Picture of E-100 with Krupp turret and 128mm:
Strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us

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yeoldewar
yeoldewar Oct 2 2011, 12:20pm replied:

Actually this is the Tiger-Maus E-100 planned to be equipped with Porsches Maus turm.
this is Krupps design

A2zeemodels.co.uk

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drako1000
drako1000 Oct 1 2011, 7:56pm says:

In a second note I would personally like to see the E-100 with the Henschel turret (the most likely route that would have been taken in the event of the continuation of the war, and the coolest looking turret in my opinion) and the 150mm (although the 128mm is likely to be more historically accurate).

E-100 with Henschel turret:
Static.hlj.com

Good luck

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Lord_Wiffleby
Lord_Wiffleby Oct 2 2011, 2:53am replied:

I heard they were also planning a version with a 170mm gun, which is one version I'd really to include if I can justify it to myself...

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sethfc
sethfc Oct 1 2011, 9:08pm says:

I like the tank, and the guns on the elite.

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AwayPeskyFlies
AwayPeskyFlies Oct 1 2011, 9:17pm says:

I like the boxy turret for the e100

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 2 2011, 5:00am says:

true true

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 2 2011, 5:02am says:

true true

edit: sorry something is wrong with ym internet or something

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Steeps5
Steeps5 Oct 2 2011, 5:46pm says:

I highly recommend this model for the E-100.

Overlord-wot.blogspot.com

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AwayPeskyFlies
AwayPeskyFlies Oct 3 2011, 4:24pm says:

Wow most popular news column yet

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Lord_Wiffleby
Lord_Wiffleby Oct 3 2011, 8:05pm replied:

Not really, it's the discussion on the King Tiger that's popular.

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AwayPeskyFlies
AwayPeskyFlies Oct 4 2011, 9:49am replied:

Yeah i put a little sarcasm into that comment

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 4 2011, 2:50am says:

@viro
if you want to continue this, lets move it to PM, I'm running out of room and we're taking up too much of LW's page

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Oct 4 2011, 2:51am says:

@viro (sorry, stupid buggy reply software)
and finally...
as for whether I would want to command 1 "perfect" tank or 3 "good enough" tanks?

1) three tanks are easier to spread out to conceal against air and artillery attack than one, and both the perfect and good enough tanks die or are crippled just as easily from a 1000lb bomb or 155mm shell hit.
2) it is better, tactically, to have three times as many armoured vehicles to set up a blocking position, and ambush, or yes, even launch an attack (not to mention the panther is more deployable than the kt). especially since your good enough tanks are, by definition, "good enough" to handle any armoured vehicles fielded by your opponents.
3) you can better afford to lose 1/3 of your three good enough tanks than 1/3 of your perfect tank
4) if you focus on building your good enough tanks, you can choose to have only 2 good enough tanks (and less trained crew members required) and devote the rest of those resources to producing some worthwhile, cheap, and effective fighters for air defense (volksjager) to protect your 2 good enough tanks from being turned into burning hulks by an il-2 or p-47.
5) ...really if you look at it, in this case perfect was really the enemy of good enough for the germans. really, the reasons for choosing a greater number of cheaper, sufficient tanks over a limited number of over-expensive, over-complicated, and over-engineered tanks are innumerable.

your production numbers are off, by the way: from 1943 to 1945 the russians produced more t34s than the germans produced tanks of all types during the ENTIRE WAR.
as far as a production war goes, less than 600 kts were built during the war - the russians built that many t34s in a month.

as far as sources go, calling yours perfect does not an arguement make :)

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Oct 4 2011, 9:21am replied:

the volksjeager often broke down since the germans didnt know how to produce good glue to hold the wings it cost a lot to make the gas guzzeling jet engine and it was only credited one kill, the volksjeager wasnt eactly the way foward since a wooden jet would ahve soon faced british and american jet fighter like the p80 or the meteor thatw a soperatinal in 1944, so if you think that volksjeager is a good design and the KT is not than your are not thinkign clearly or are just a fan of aviation tactics and would preffer the jet fighters, plus the vloksjager alo had a slow production rate not cause it was to complex to make but because germany didint have any good factories left, if US and biritsh didnt have air raids germanies KT would be a lot more common than they actualyl were

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AwayPeskyFlies
AwayPeskyFlies Oct 4 2011, 9:29am replied:

Ya beat me to my comment lol

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