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Contra 008 changelog (part 8) Fixed errors, Balance Fixes, Other changes, Maps, Canceled changes.

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Fixed errors:

- Flame and infantry general's ECM tanks did not fire automatically. Fixed.
- Many crashes were fixed on challenge maps. These errors stayed since Contra 0.06. It was the reason why I blocked Challenge mode in 0.07.
- Tomahawk Storm did not leave scratches on ground. Fixed.
- Frenzy general's power had an error in description. Fixed.
- Infantry general power plant had 2 stop buttons. Fixed.
- Veterancy signs did not appear on group build buttons. Fixed.

Balance changes:

- AF general: MOAB upgrade bonus was increased. Shockwave bomb gets +50% damage from it.
- AF general: MOAB upgrade effects Air Force general superweapon now. Strategic bombing becomes really devastating when upgraded with both cluster bombs and MOAB.
- AF general: Comamche does not have machinegun any more, but damage versus buildings and vehicles was increased. I remind you, that Combat Chinook has counter infantry weapon. So, it will be nothing bad.
- Cyber general: Builder Mech movement speed was reduced. It moves as fast as other construction dozers now.
- All China: Nuke and Tank general's supply truck switched places. Nuke general has tracked supply truck with machinegun, tank general has usual supply truck. As you know, nuke general does not have defense. So, armed supply trucks will be helpful.
- All China: Firestorm does not damage air units any more.
- All China: Helix bomb module addon adds additional 25% life to Helix now.
- All China: All jammer troopers can switch their weapon now. First weapon is ECM vehicle disabler and the second is jammer.
- Nuke general: Nuclear Overlord turret rotation speed was reduced. It rotates turret as fast as other Overlords now.
- Nuke general: Nuclear Overlord cost was increased from $2000 to $2200.
- Nuke general: Irradiator addon cost was increased from $400 to $600,
- Nuke general: Missile launcher addon cost was increased from $1500 to $1800.
- Nuke general: ZTZ tank does not have nuclear shells from the start now, but it can receive them after upgrade. Upgrade is available at rank 1.
- Infantry general: Red Arrow moved to rank 1 and is not stealth any more.
- GLA: All mortar buggies have 15% less firepower now.
- GLA: All defense sites were recalculated. Their armor was reduced by 12%. Quad cannon defense site was additionly weakened - its firepower was reduced by 10%. Artillery defence site armor was decreased by 28%.
- GLA: All defense sites don't have automatic repair any more.
- GLA: All Jarmen Kells have 25% less life now.
- Demo general: Suicide upgrade was moved to rank 1 and its cost was reduced from $3000 to $1500.
- Assault general: Katusha and Dana switched places. Katusha became weaker and available at 1st rank. Dana became stronger and available at 3rd rank.
- Toxin general: Technical firepower was increased by 30%. But number of sit places was reduced. There are only 2 places in Toxin general's Technical now.

Other changes:

- All: All supply gatherers and supply centers cost 2 times higher.
- All: Money transfer ability allows to transfer $2000 instead of $5000. I also removed build limit. You can order to transfer as much money as you want.
- All: Super units can not be thrown up by shockwaves any more.
- Cyber general: New rank 3 general's power: Stinger Drone deployment.
- Cyber general: I returned pop-up Patriot from earlier Contra versions. But this Patriot has faster missiles and opens faster.
- Cyber general: Beetle mines were removed. There was unfixable bug: these mines blocked path for enemy units. There was no way to fix it.
- Cyber general: Robo Raptor has new 3D model.
- Cyber general: Leech Drone is stealth from the beginning and can be built in Command Center. But it can not steal money. Thus, cyber general has got stealth recon at 1st rank.
- Cyber general: New upgrade: Leech Hack. It returns money stealing ability to Leech drone. The upgrade is available at rank 3.
- Laser general: Omega Cannon does not have any individual upgrades any more. But it is built with stealth field by default.
- Laser and SW generals: New rank 3 general's power: Satellite AA system. It shots down enemy planes in targeted area.
- AF and SW generals: Comanche has new 3d model.
- AF general: Sentry drones have got navigating missiles. It is ability, which allows to see farther. Sentry drone launches a missile, which flies very far and slowly and reveals area around itself.
- All China: All supply trucks have 1.5 times more health now.
- All China: Dozer armor upgrade was removed. (It is planned to add another upgrade instead, which allows China dozers to move by water).
- Flame general: Propaganda Troop Crawler was added. It is available at rank 1.
- Flame general: New upgrade: Turbulence. It allows Vortex weapons to create turbulence in air. It increases firepower against air targets and especially, against heaps of helicopters. You need 4 vortex guns to create turbulence with 1 shot or 2 vortex guns must fire 2 times at the same place.
- Tank and Infantry generals: New rank 3 general's power: AA missile barrage. It shots down enemy planes in targeted area.
- Toxin general: New rank 3 general's power: Air contamination. It creates yellow clouds in targeted area.

Maps:

- New multiplayer map: Forest Wars (6 players).
- New multiplayer map: The Grand Canyon (6 players).
- New multiplayer map: Community Work Day (2 players).

Canceled changes:

- USA: Patriots don't have any additional requirements: no war factory, neither airfield is needed.
- I changed my mind about money gaining speed. I returned everything back. Money gaining speed will not be reduced 2 times as I stated earlier.
- Stealth general: Gun Buggy cost was returned back to $400.
- Demo general: Dirty Bomb upgrade was returned. But it effects Elbrus Storm only. Terrorists, bomb trucks and other suicide units are not affected.

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РredatoR
РredatoR - - 3,836 comments

Good change log. It's more balanced.

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Zeke_Dlyoung
Zeke_Dlyoung - - 4,458 comments

No not mah beetle mines D:!

Maybe you can just make them build one at a time but have a bigger explosion like demo traps.

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Valherran
Valherran - - 2,443 comments

Omega Cannon really needed that stealth. Nice Change Log BTW, I like it alot, very well balanced. ^^

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justgoaway
justgoaway - - 8,208 comments

Really looks more balanced

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Zenta12
Zenta12 - - 140 comments

how about that difficulty

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adaka
adaka - - 3 comments

how to update the Contra 08 thank you this is the best mods

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Branyace
Branyace - - 38 comments

U guys are realy good at knowing how to make a MOD balanced yet fun!

Can't wait for 008. When is it due to be released?

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aerox1982
aerox1982 - - 50 comments

YEAH, WHEN WILL 008 BE ^^

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aerox1982
aerox1982 - - 50 comments

I really think the game needs a "HOLD" the position command, unit hotkeys W - airunits, T - Tanks, R - Infantry....The supply limit is good (DZ, Hackers, BM) it eliminates a tiresome very long game....

I think AF needs additional tanks at rank three they are ****** up w/o air field, while LG needs air units or additional tanks or upgrades for tanks at rank 3, because at this point LG is turned into a anti-air faction with lousy support.

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xppro3
xppro3 - - 1 comments

hey first time ever poster I think that there should at least be medium and easy difficulty I can hardly win T-T but this has go to be the best mod I have ever played and is probaly the best mod in the buisness of ZH mods but also I think there should be voices in challenge mode thanks


Contra=PWNAGE

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KaanTech
KaanTech - - 334 comments

i m still waiting for u to chance your mind about US air force general's
gunships they are my favorite units

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aerox1982
aerox1982 - - 50 comments

i think the usa medic should be able to extinguish fire..... Have you think over the shortcut keys for hold position, tank units and infantry units?? :)

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mnoonm
mnoonm - - 7 comments

You guys are really putting a lot of effort into this mod hope it comes out great looking foward to it :)

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Branyace
Branyace - - 38 comments

aerox1982,
I agree with the unit 'stances' suggestion but I swear that there is already a way to shortcut units. Select the units you want to group. Then hold CTRL and the group number you want to give them. Then every time you press that particular group number you will select those units.

Just in case you didn't know.

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aerox1982
aerox1982 - - 50 comments

I am aware of that sir, I just thought it would give a quick access for the different units in case of chaos, like the hot key for the air units (w)

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Andy47
Andy47 - - 53 comments

I dont play Contra too long, still there are few things i want to say you, but first i want to thank you for given the GLA some useable defense

And here is some crittic:
everyone says this mod is soo balanced, but there is fings that was in Generals unbalanced and you still dont fix it, i mean in the USA - i dont say they are the strongest side, but they have too many benefits, that other sides dont have:
-flashbangs- most stupid thing in generals, i dont understand how someone can kill somebody or clean a building with it
-snipers- ok, you give the snipers even to other sides but i still think they are too unfair units with too small cost
-buildings- the worst of all, why the americans have autorepair and gets a couple of rangers after destroying their buildings, wenn they buildings have the same cost as the other sides?!?
-generals abilities- they have too many bombarding abilities there, you only need to get rank and then you can do with your enemy everything you want for no cost(you wanna get out the spectre gunship, but they aint so strong as before, so i rather take A10 or HE bomb)
-shortest countdowns on superweapons- they can hit you more frequentli in long run

for that i dont understand why you weaken GLA(especiali they defense-it isnt so strong, wenn you take what it cost and it must by combined for some real efect) and Chine instead from USA and why you give even more power to USA(especiali to the cyborg general)

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Andy47
Andy47 - - 53 comments

Part 2(i cant give it all in one comment:(

As for the comments about generals, i dont think tahat nuke general is strong, yes he have nuke storm but wenn he build it, you have 12 minutes to shot it down and that is too easy because he have no defense:D and for that i want that you give him back his defence(and just give a higher cost on nuke storm) or give him his whole nuclear arsenal avalieble on 1.rank so he can do a good offense, otherwise it looks like he was a suicide general instead of nuke general

and Infantry general- hhh he is maybe the weakest general for my, infantry is vulnerable mostly to everything

i think the strongest general is superweapon, i played just now against her(insane AI) with toxin general and i have a real problem, because i cant build elbrus storm without a rank so i cant shoot back, and i cant get across her defense(mostly because wasp cant detect sthelth aircrafts and luna cant go to tunel!) but i get her finaly, try that and you see:D

i winn olny because i have enough black markets and that is another thing i dont like- why do you want limit on markets, hackers and suply zones, thats crazy, i played the Command&Conquer games mostly because there was almost no limits(i hate most the population cap in other games) and you wanna do this- i dont agreed with it

but even its soud too criticli i must say that the contra is the best mod on generals i ever seen, so good luck on continued work on it, im realy curious what new units i say:D

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Branyace
Branyace - - 38 comments

I agree with the units coming from destroyed buildings for USA only.
And OMG u can write!

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Andy47
Andy47 - - 53 comments

at least with something, but i think this is good, unfair but good, because you can get some easy kils on it, and sorry for that grammar

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aerox1982
aerox1982 - - 50 comments

Andy is right ^^, I suggest that a balance sheet must be placed like a tech tree. A sort of list where everyone can see how it is balance. =)

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Branyace
Branyace - - 38 comments

Now that Would be useful!

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aerox1982
aerox1982 - - 50 comments

have you decided about the fire extinguisher? or Fire proof or fire suit upgrades for all units against flame general? or how about radiation immunity against radiation or nukes or chemical suits against poison? or how about armor piercing upgrade or units with weapon against tank general?

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Andy47
Andy47 - - 53 comments

yes, and i want some anti laser armor, anti tomahawk shield, reflection armor against particle beams, rockets that cant be shot down with laser defense system, some AA defense that will be able to destroy that AF G indestructible aircrafts.... and what about a antiUS missile that destroy everything belonging to USA :)))))

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aerox1982
aerox1982 - - 50 comments

whewww.. that would be a lot of work =) but it will be awesome .... any updates on the balance sheet and the ETR??

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casojin
casojin - - 237 comments

Supply cost doubling is a terrible thing.

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Gh3ttoboy
Gh3ttoboy - - 127 comments

agree let it be 2500 or 2000 cash.
not 4000 or 5000 thats crazy
and ad some more cash abilities from starting like Destructive Forcess mod
like
5000 starting cash
10000 starting cash
15000 starting cash
20000 starting cash
25000 starting cash
50000 starting cash
75000 starting cash
100000 starting cash
500000 starting cash

then you can make good defense
and for challanges make 50000 cash
maybe this could be a good idea for 008
il bet that more players would like to have more cash abilities from starting

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Gh3ttoboy
Gh3ttoboy - - 127 comments

and maybe one more idee make a dock yard where you can make ships that would be great

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