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6 comments by IreneHawnetyne on Feb 17th, 2015

It's been a while since I last posted news, but now that I have some it seems only appropriate to say so. Indeed, both the Black Numenoreans' and the good factions' buildings are finished, bar animations and putting in game. You can see a demo of them below:


I have also recently rewritten and remastered the previous "Westernesse" theme, which can be found here.

However, at this point, I have a problem. What do you guys think the good and faithful Numenorean faction should be called? At the moment my choices are either Dunedain or Elendili, so I'd love to hear what your preferences and/or own suggestions are for a name.

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Primer_Sartoris Mar 18 2015, 1:05am says:

Hey Irene!

Remember the kicksides ofthe valar power?

Look at this image ^^

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IreneHawnetyne Mar 18 2015, 1:33pm replied:

I have considered it and, for the most part, I decided not to use it because it was too far removed from the events which Westernesse is based around. I mean, as yet whether the Istari will appear is not set in stone, however as it is I'd like to focus on the moral dilemma of man against man, and the ensuing conflicts over the extent to which they pursue their beliefs, rather than to overly focus on the divine supernatural powers at work. However, you'll see in time what use I have made of your other ideas, which I assure you I have used in significant areas :) I owe you one for those.

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Primer_Sartoris Mar 18 2015, 9:25pm replied:

:) it is all about giving ideas, so please keep your great work!!

& about the moral dilema men vs men, i may ask:

if we got two powerful men faction, one corrupted and another uncorrupted, who of them will find to be the súper-man, who will climb the mount and find the true power within?

& if they do, who will remain faithful to their gods? -Also already knowing that Elendili didnt follow evil- So we will have something very interesting: those who won were because of their faith in themselves or because their faith in their god(s).

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IreneHawnetyne Mar 19 2015, 2:20am replied:

I don't believe either of the factions is naturally superior to the other in terms of strength, willpower or ideology. Equally, after spending a while over this project, I've come to terms with the realization that the Black Númenóreans are not evil, they just believe in their actions and that their methods are justified. Likewise, neither evil are the Elendili, their war with the Black Númenóreans is one of survival. Corruption, a word I myself used to use to describe them, is only fair really to refer to Sauron's coercions to perform public atrocities, which otherwise would likely not have happened. War between men is never one good side against an evil one, but a conflict of ideologies for which both sides will kill. Here, Númenor must choose between faith in their king, or faith in their gods, and with a king defying his old gods so that his people never.more die we can understand why so many would join his cause.

Good god I've spent too long thinking about this mod.

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Primer_Sartoris Mar 19 2015, 5:43am replied:

Ohh what i meant about 'evil' was all about saurons/melkors ideals. But this is all i wanted to read, for there's no true evil in people who believe in their actions, actions they think are straight & good, just misunderstanding of those actions by other factions.

We already got a modern example: Ministry & dear uncle Al got too many songs against 'Evil'= Bush ^^ but Bush thought evil was in countrys with different cultures. As Nietzsche wrote: the circle of the eternal return ^^

About the stronger faction: thats why i wrote it, they are even, but need to show eachother (if possible) whose stronger.

Anyway, your work will be remarkable :D!!

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IreneHawnetyne Mar 30 2015, 5:21pm replied:

Agreed, Sauron and Melkor we can consider as more leaning towards the definition of 'evil', though I think a devil's advocate on their part would have yet a strong argument. Though I'm not sure I get the Ministry or Bush references, I've only really delved into NIN and MM for the industrial sound. Also Nietzsche is my total go-to guy for quotes. He truly has a way with words that so efficiently and effectively describe abstract concepts... ever so nicely.

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Guest Mar 10 2015, 7:05pm says:

Take as long as you need to honestly the fact that you continue to see this through where as others would eventually give up due to various reasons is impressive i look forward to seeing what it is like when its done. i have the page bookmarked to see how its going along but. genuinely take your time. nothing good comes from rushing to meet a deadline when you don't have to really

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IreneHawnetyne Mar 12 2015, 2:13am replied:

Thank you so much for your understanding and patience. I've realized with the fiasco of From Book to Game's first release that deadlines make for dead mods, hence the lack of a release date, but I'm also trying my best to get the work done quickly as well as in quality. So I appreciate the fans as a whole of Westernesse for their continued unwavering support, and I hope I don't disappoint you when its released!

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IreneHawnetyne Feb 26 2015, 4:32pm says:

Haven't been updates in the last few days, I've been battling to get normal maps working on the models, so don't worry, I haven't disappeared.

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ElfLord531 Feb 24 2015, 3:15pm says:

I dont know why many people complain about you morgoth model.Apparently his head was cut and was turned into a beast like creature in the void and how many mods have morgoth come on.Even edain does not have him.

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Primer_Sartoris Feb 18 2015, 12:42am says:

I would prefer Elendili ^^.

Also, do you got any idea of the spell menu?

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IreneHawnetyne Feb 18 2015, 1:04am replied:

I think I might have them written down in a document somewhere... I'll go find them :p

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