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Murrax9
Murrax9

These people take (selfies) and argue about politics.... OUR WAYS ARE BEST!

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amen_leung
amen_leung

That is so harsh…

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진Jin
진Jin

To be fair this is a matter of prospective. Although if you would like to argue the west were still hitting each other with sticks and grunting at each other while north east asia had maths, language, cities and civilization. Indeed barbarians.

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ghostuser
ghostuser

take a look at china, and tell me there barbarian's? no they were not they were more civilized then Europe in the dark ages and even beyond as they weren't armed with the best black powder weapons but they still had guns...the also had metal spears same for India, they didn't just use wood spears also look at japan, one of the greatest homes to culture and traditions in the world and were super organized...they were only uncivilized when Americans forced there border open.

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진Jin
진Jin

You are just.... agreeing with me O_o "Indeed barbarians" was sarcasm read what I ACTUALLY SAID. Asia = Civilization

so my point is by the time this "our ways are best" comes into effect it's opinion, besides fine details. EG better ships and guns does not make a culturally superior people.

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Tymathee
Tymathee

thats just how its been, at one time the middle east was the forefront, another africa, another asia, etc.

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vladimir0123
vladimir0123

China in ancient times are both more technologically and culturally advanced in many aspects than people in Europe. And their system of government is actually effective (in ancient times, certainly not effective anymore when the industrial revolution hits). And that made them assume everyone outside of china is barbarians until they're totally ****** by Europeans, then suddenly, everyone wants to integrate with western cultures and wear western clothes and discriminate against their own race. But for some reason, integration with western ideals and culture caused them to be the barbarians we know today, most China chinese today are uncultured and a disgrace to the rest of us that share the same ethnic group (Taiwanese, Singaporeans, Malaysian Chinese, etc.) But after being bullied so long by foreign countries, maybe they feel the need to be the bully now.

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yf22

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A temporary fix to primitive nations westernising by 1680. The research penalty is cancelled in 1820.