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Ah, hello Comrade Survivor. We have done it, we have spread the spore and the zombies have taken down America. Unfortunately, we had not foreseen an total apocalypse such as this. We have sent four of our finest from the Red Army to investigate...they were lost. They must now find their own means of transport to get back to the Motherland.

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Metal_Invader
Metal_Invader

Cute gun ;)

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Arctic0ne Author
Arctic0ne

Well, I wasn't going for cute, but I think that's a compliment, so...thanks.

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Metal_Invader
Metal_Invader

A compliment XD, I always liked this gun and always tought that it was cute (dunno why), maybe 'cos it's like a baby AK-47?

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Arctic0ne Author
Arctic0ne

haha, ok I get it. Thanks

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Fast_Train
Fast_Train

Why did you use the letter "ц"?

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Arctic0ne Author
Arctic0ne

It's just a font, it makes it seem like it's part Russian, it is suppose to just be a "u" for AK-47u

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DangerousCat
DangerousCat

by the way...do u know what english "u" mean?? I know how ak-47 looks like, but this is a shorted version! and in russian its like АК-47У (Автомат Калашникова-47 Укороченный)

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Callinstead09
Callinstead09

"New weapon ees good!"

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Fast_Train
Fast_Train

Hm, do you want to use the letter "У"? Nah, just a joke.

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Hunt3d
Hunt3d

this is from CoD4

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Ganners
Ganners

Dont steal models..

http://www.cod4central.com/cod4-weapons-ak74u.php

http://www.cod4central.com/cod4-weapons-ak47.php

http://www.cod4central.com/cod4-weapons-sniper-rifles.php#dragunov

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CanadaMan7
CanadaMan7

I don't think he "stole" anything. He just got the idea for the guns from CoD4

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mod-man-8
mod-man-8

Just because it looks a little alike doesn't mean it's stolen. His model has a longer barrel and it's blockier in places. And are you telling us that he's the only person who has found a way to convert cod4 models to l4d? So far as I can tell your "evidence" consists of "Look at these pictures! It must be true!"

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Ganners
Ganners

Why are you so hard to convince? Okay
He has changed the barrel, the skin is the exact same and has the same details.

More proof: He somehow got a normal map without ever actually modelling the high polygon to bake it. Show us your high poly mesh?

You say its more blocky? this is because ArticOne imported the low polygon third person mesh, instead of the nice detailed first person mesh. They are different!

The fact all 3 guns look 'almost' exactly the same as the cod4 guns, and there IS a way to exctract all of this detail, in fact I have made a few skins myself! Theres a very large community.

For me the evidence is conclusive, do you need more? I'm sure I could find it.

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Arctic0ne Author
Arctic0ne

I don't own COD4, btw. I have it on the Xbox 360 not the PC. I did, in fact model them after the guns that lie on the ground after you kill the person, I recorded a match and killed somebody with all three guns, lying on both sides and tried to get them as close as possible to the way they looked, The internet pictures were not as good as the ones in COD so I used them as a base.

To make the mesh I just used the Sniper mesh from the Hunting Rifle and used UV mapping to place it where it needed to be.

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Arctic0ne Author
Arctic0ne

Exactly, he is just one more person who goes around finding every little similarity of evrything and sets out to try and destroy the mod. As a modder with content online like this, I just have to ignore it, because I know what is true and what is false. This, is false. And really, as long as I know this is all mad by me, that's all that I care about.

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Ganners
Ganners

The proof is in the picture, this is the exact same model. In fact, he stole all 3 and evidence has been provided. His intentions are illegal.

http://www.thelost1s.com/website/statsgen/cod4_ak74u-s.jpg

And more evidence. Obviously he has no spec map on it, so it has no shinyness.

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Arctic0ne Author
Arctic0ne

Even if I did steal them, which I did not, they have released SDK tools for COD4, making it so that anybody can play with the models in any way they want, and do pretty much anything with the weapons, so this would NOT be illegal anyways.
You cannot spec map in 3DS max, Source using phongs anyway.

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Ganners
Ganners

COD4 released an SDK which allowes you to move and edit COD4 content for use only with COD4. Read the disclaimer attached to it.

Okay, what you are saying is completely unbelievable. And, how else would you have been able to make a normal map? To make a normal map of a weapon you would first have to model a many thousand polygon high detail model of it, then project and bake it onto the low poly version.

"You cannot spec map in 3DS max, Source using phongs anyway."
Source engine supports:

Diffuse map
Specular map
Bump map
Normal map
Emission map

and multiple passes at each.

There are a lot of people trying to defend you, and for what I don't know. Just start again and make your own models this time.

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hippo24
hippo24

Even if he knew how to export the model (which would mean he probably did more work than if he just made it) why would you jump all over him and call him a liar. The ak-47u is a standardized gun. If he made the model correctly it shouldn't be all that different from the picture, especially if he used the COD guns as a reference image.

The only way to prove this is to take both model files and compare them In a modeling program.

I'm not saying that you should blatantly take models from another game...but come on...its a mod.

Short for Modification. You really think its that big of a deal.
Ohh well.

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Ganners
Ganners

Well, truth is he would probably get away with it. Alot of members of the community probably wouldn't even mind if he credited COD4 for it. However, it is illegal. It's the same as downloading music.

Maybe also if the people who downloaded this mod owned a copy of COD4 then it would make it legal? But not too sure about that one.

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SIR_halyavshik
SIR_halyavshik

1) nobody care
2) its replacement for the first time , as many other mods

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Ganners
Ganners

Okay, well people obviously do care as i'm not the only person to say this. You are just one of the people who doesn't care, your opinion obviously doesn't represent the rest of the community.

And secondly he has never stated these were to ever be replaced either, so you are wrong on both accounts.

I'm not trying to start a troll war, I just want Artic0ne to create original content and not use copyrighted material.

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SIR_halyavshik
SIR_halyavshik

"so you are wrong on both accounts."
what is that?
i have only one account here
and i am not trolling you

People who cant or not good in modelling replacing models with something that already exist untill they found a team member who can make their own.

And about stolen models - ypu cant say it by watching on screenshot
You need this model and skin to be sure

Anyway , he is not making money on this mod , its absolutly free
thats why developers not hunting mod makers , its absolutly free

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Ganners
Ganners

I didn't mean both accounts like that, its an english expression. :)

Maybe you are right, but when 5 of the models he has are all almost identical to models from COD4 it does make you think, and I doubt its a coincidence.

However, if you are right and these are placeholders which will later be replaced then its absolutly fine.

Oh, but if i put it like this. You can download any mp3 for free, and album for free, and the developers and artists are hunting them down. Similarly, at my last university many people were fined from WB for downloading illegal movies.

I suppose you are right in that its probably not high up in the priority listings for game developers, but for this person, Artic0ne, to deny each accusation that the models are stolen, he is claiming credit for something that he didn't create and it's that which I am angry about.

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Arctic0ne Author
Arctic0ne

If it makes you feel any better, I can say I did use COD as a reference for these models. They were the most accurate, and easy to see models that I had access to. I do not own COD4 on the PC, I remade them as close as possible to what I was able to see in the game (which is why you accused me of stealing the 3rd person models, instead of the first person models, which you cannot see whilst holding them).
In no way is what I am doing placing ANY aspect of COD into the game, so it would not matter if you own the game or not.
The normal maps I made in a program called CrazyBump, so don't accuse me of stealing them, you can make them yourself.
When I release the mod you can compare the models to the COD ones and see that they do not match. You will start another fight, and just make the mod look even more popular from all of the activity.
So, thanks.

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lattimore17
lattimore17

Yeah i hope you know that the COD4 AK74U isn't actually a 74U its based on some airsoft gun called a AK47Spetznaz (not a real gun)

The 74u has a much bigger hand guard.

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Schubey
Schubey

WOW that guys really hating youd think he gets paid to B!tch.

I like this MOD

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